Gaymers force Blizzard into submission

[Righ]

Blizzard staff to get training to be more sensitive to players' sexuality.

Apparently we all need to be more open to such groups as "The Spreading Taint".

[jpark]

Hey, I just had an idea for a new set of servers 

[Ironwood]

Damn.  I posted this into Useless news.  It was more that than WoW, I thought.

Owned...

[Dren]

I'm going to start a guild that doesn't discuss nor cares about the members' sexual preferences.  Oh, nevermind, I'm already in one.

[tazelbain]

Kudos to WoW for reversing a bad policy.

[Viin]

Well, if they can make a gay-only guild, I suppose anyone can start a no-gays guild right?

[tazelbain]

It wasn't gay-only. It was a GLBT-friendly guild.  Theoretically all guilds should be this because not being so is against the ToS.

[Alkiera]

It wasn't gay-only. It was a GLBT-friendly guild.  Theoretically all guilds should be this because not being so is against the ToS.

But is it against the ToS to start a guild that is friendly to homophobes?  I can't imagine why not...

Alkiera

[Mesozoic]

Well if we wanted to test the tolerance of intolerance, we could make a sculpture of Mohammed in ATiTD. 

[jpark]

The design of WoW is inherently gay friendly.  You guys thought Night Elves were for straight people?

[DevilsAdvocate]

Anyone who has done the new Valentine's day quests will know that regardless of your gender, you can spray perfume or cologne on you and give love notes to members of either gender. I play a male Tauren and gave love notes to the cows and the female orcs, but in UC, there are no female guards. I tried giving notes to the abominations with cologne on. Heartbroken after 3 mobs, then after 2 mobs. Switched to perfume, and didn't get heartbroken again. Gay undead patchwork monsters ftl.   :-(

[Azazel]

Hey good on her.

I know of both a horde and alliance-side gay-friendly guildon my server, and it's no skin off my nose if they want a guildchat free of "OMG fucken fagsz lol" and "man that's gay" and a place where they can discuss Queer as Folk and Bareback Mountain in peace.

[Llava]

Hey, she's pretty hot.

Not OMG HAWT, but certainly a couple notches over most WoW players.

Anyhow, I liked this bit... I wonder if it was positioned that way intentionally... italics mine, bold not

Two such guilds, Stonewall Champions and The Spreading Taint wrote an open letter to Blizzard criticising its policy.

Sensitive area

The uproar has prompted Blizzard to...

[Samwise]

Hey, she's pretty hot.

That was my first thought as well.

My second and third thoughts were that she has a rather prominent jaw and traps like a football player.

That's probably my imagination running away with me, though.

[pants]

Normally I'd be in the 'Who gives a toss who you rub uglies with IRL' camp, but considering how many 'xxxx is gay' comments you see in your average game of WoW, I can understand em wanting their own guilds.

I'm just wondering about the combination of the timing of this, and the fact that the unofficial gay server, Proudmoore, is also the unofficial Aussie server.  Its also 1-2 weeks until gay Mardi Gras in Sydney.  Its a conspiracy I tell yas!  A big gay blizzard conspiracy!

[Rasix]

Normally I'd be in the 'Who gives a toss who you rub uglies with IRL' camp, but considering how many 'xxxx is gay' comments you see in your average game of WoW, I can understand em wanting their own guilds.

Molten Core is pretty much a 4 hour long gay joke in vent. 

[Ironwood]

I know of both a horde and alliance-side gay-friendly guildon my server, and it's no skin off my nose if they want a guildchat free of "OMG fucken fagsz lol" and "man that's gay" and a place where they can discuss Queer as Folk and Bareback Mountain in peace.

Eating Pudding.

[Paelos]

Once again for people playing MMOG games.

I play these games to get away from the real life political bullshit that you are trying to integrate into my gaming experience. I don't care if your dwarf warrior likes assplay. I want to play the game and not think of you as a deviant. Thanks.

Please stop talking about yourself.

[Ironwood]

So much wrong with that.

[Calantus]

Eh, as long as it's not a gay only guild and is instead just a gay-friendly guild where people can join without the gay jokes or people freaking out on them then it doesn't really matter. As for Blizz I'm hoping it was originally done because they confused it with a gay only guild, which is wrong, and overturned the ruling when they realised it wasn't.

Also, she is not hot. This reminds me of the time Triforcer said that Ann Coulter is "quite hot". I lol'd then, I lol now.

[Merusk]

No, they originally banned the guild because they said it would attract too much hate and cause harassment problems.  So really, their stance was, "We don't want to deal with the CS nightmare."

[Azazel]

Normally I'd be in the 'Who gives a toss who you rub uglies with IRL' camp, but considering how many 'xxxx is gay' comments you see in your average game of WoW, I can understand em wanting their own guilds.

I'm just wondering about the combination of the timing of this, and the fact that the unofficial gay server, Proudmoore, is also the unofficial Aussie server.  Its also 1-2 weeks until gay Mardi Gras in Sydney.  Its a conspiracy I tell yas!  A big gay blizzard conspiracy!

Though this chick is on a different server, as is her guild. But yeah, she's pretty good looking. I like the cowgirl hat. I didn't know PM was the unofficial gay server though, and only found out that SC and TST are gay-friendly guilds recently, when I read a post on the Blizz boards. Which is not exactly in-your-face sexuality since I've been on PM since it opened at launch.

Once again for people playing MMOG games.
I play these games to get away from the real life political bullshit that you are trying to integrate into my gaming experience. I don't care if your dwarf warrior likes assplay. I want to play the game and not think of you as a deviant. Thanks.
Please stop talking about yourself.

1) I hope that you also apply this line of thought to Christian guilds.
2) If teh gayz lolz are all in their own guild, then you don't ever have to read about their dwaves that like assplay.
3) unless you join a guild of, or end up in a PUG with any of the l33t kiddy morons who happen to be in catass uberguilds who talk childish puerile shit out of their asses the whole time.
4) also, better turn off general chat in the cities, and newbie zones, and intermediate zones, and barrens, and STV...
5) actually, better keep it off at all times.

No, they originally banned the guild because they said it would attract too much hate and cause harassment problems.  So really, their stance was, "We don't want to deal with the CS nightmare."

It just depends on how they present themselves in their server community. As I said before, I had no idea about the two on PM until recently. Not exactly in my face...

[Wasted]

Oooh don't bite, Paelos is doing the exact thing he is complaining of, lets just enjoy the irony and move on.

[Ironwood]

Hey, don't blame me, I resisted.  There was a whole convoluted joke about gays turning the other cheek in there as well.

I RESISTED.

[cevik]

Once again for people playing MMOG games.

I play these games to get away from the real life political bullshit that you are trying to integrate into my gaming experience. I don't care if your dwarf warrior likes assplay. I want to play the game and not think of you as a deviant. Thanks.

Please stop talking about yourself.

Yup.  Still an idiot.

[Alkiera]

I play these games to get away from the real life political bullshit that you are trying to integrate into my gaming experience. I don't care if your dwarf warrior likes assplay. I want to play the game and not think of you as a deviant. Thanks.

Please stop talking about yourself.

Translation: 'Please, no sharing'

Oooh don't bite, Paelos is doing the exact thing he is complaining of, lets just enjoy the irony and move on.

I don't even think he's violating the 'No sharing' rule there, much less 'doing the exact thing he is complaining of'.  Please, make sense?  His request is the same one we made of SirBruce.  Why is that suddenly too much to ask?

Alkiera

[HaemishM]

4) also, better turn off general chat in the cities, and newbie zones, and intermediate zones, and barrens, and STV...
5) actually, better keep it off at all times.

I would say that all MMOG's should just have these channels turned off by default, but then the drooling mongoloids would just find some other channel to ejaculate their mouth-breathing, knuckledragging douchery into. Better to keep them confined to the low end of the gene pool where I can see them and avoid them.

Also, as I said in the other thread, gaymer is perhaps one of the most irritatingly assinine labels since "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy." Have some fucking respect, gay people. Just because you ARE gay, doesn't mean you have to name yourself something gayer than night elves.

[Phred]

No, they originally banned the guild because they said it would attract too much hate and cause harassment problems.  So really, their stance was, "We don't want to deal with the CS nightmare."

They didn't actually ban the guild, rather the CS guy told her she would be banned if she continued to advertise it in chat. Given my experience with the CS guys so far I think it really was poor  training rather than company policy.

[Mesozoic]

Hey, she's pretty hot.

Not OMG HAWT, but certainly a couple notches over most WoW players.

Yeah, uh...welcome to the "T" in "GBLT"

[Ironwood]

Me No Understand.

[HaemishM]

Hah ha! Dangly parts.

[MrHat]

Hah ha! Dangly parts.

[Mesozoic]

Once again for people playing MMOG games.

I play these games to get away from the real life political bullshit that you are trying to integrate into my gaming experience. I don't care if your dwarf warrior likes assplay. I want to play the game and not think of you as a deviant. Thanks.

Please stop talking about yourself.

Sexual orientation is not inherently political.  What you're railing against is any intersection of games and real life.  The same sort of nexus that occurs when a player tells his guildmates that he and his wife just had a child is all these people are trying to do.  Sadly trying to do so amongst the general population would immediately result in a series of flames and jokes, hence the need for the guild. 

[Calantus]

I don't even think he's violating the 'No sharing' rule there, much less 'doing the exact thing he is complaining of'.  Please, make sense?  His request is the same one we made of SirBruce.  Why is that suddenly too much to ask?

I would hope that a gay guild would be the same as a "straight" guild where people don't go on and on about their sexual exploits/persuasions. Some guy saying "I met hit hot guy last night for dinner" wouldn't bother me, but telling me about any sex they may or may not have had would. Same as if the guy was talking about a girl. You see there's a line... Bruce crossed in frequently.

[Xanthippe]

Personally I'd like it if Blizzard treated guilds as private clubs.  You can invite whomever you like whyever you like.

Isn't that what they do?

I guess it's the advertising that's the problem for some.  For which there is a simple solution.  Turn off general chat.

Recently on my server there was a "gay activist" guild being advertised, which goes a bit beyond "gay tolerant" or "gay friendly."  So the Gay Activist (most likely a college student who recently outed himself and has Issues) would advertise in IF and then of course, the expected reaction.  Which is why I usually turn off general chat when I'm in IF.

I don't think many people want to join a gay-only guild, although many don't mind gay-friendly or -tolerant.  I have no idea what my guild's position is; never occurred to me to ask and I haven't noticed. 

If people want to form a white-only or black-only or Christian-only or straight-only or men-only, I don't give a fig.  Keep the bigots together, if bigots they are.  Merely advertising a whatever-only is not offensive to me, and I don't know why it would be to other people.  If they are offended by such things, perhaps they should stay at home with the windowshades drawn and the doors locked.  Being exposed to the public must surely be a trauma.

There is already a no-gnome guild on my server which I find very amusing.  The response to people roleplaying bigotry is quite entertaining, particularly since it's not an RP server.