More SoE office drama

[Azazel]

Azazel obviously has some personal bad experience to be trying this hard.

That said, Azazel, stop reaching. Whore stopped being derogatory in 1994. Now, cunt, that's a derogatory thing to call a woman. Also clambake and spunkbucket - but whore? No.

Are you hiding something? I don't know a single guy who really knows any girl born after 1975 who would be as offended as you by the word whore. PARTICULARLY girls who dwell in netspaces. My grandparents would be offended, my mother would be offended, but they haven't been desensitized by the intarweb. And if this girl is offended? Then she's a stupid and naive as well.

Nah, I have bad experiences in my life, but not with this particular word, or any words really.. I'm not sure what she thinks, you'll have to ask her.

GJ on trying to personalise the argument as you flipflopped around on why you were calling her a whore/how you were trying to define it though. You really have no idea how offended or not I am by the word though mate, I'm as faceless as you are. For the record though, I personally think that it's disrespectful and dumb, but in a different way to, say, you or I calling one another cockjockeys. As usual, I think Tebonas also has a good handle on it.

[schild]

Clambake?

This is not a place to talk about tarter sauce. I'm just not going there. Obscure sexual slurs just isn't my bag.

Cultural differences? Around here "Hure"(=Whore) still gets women riled up and angry quite good. Maybe in Australia as well?

Not in America. Not since MTV's Grind.

More azazel...

Dude, I've said 50 times I have no problem with it and I'm not using it offensively. You, however, are obviously tiffed by the word. I'm asking why. If you don't want to talk about it, that's cool. But understand right now, that dude, sometimes a whore doesn't need a dick in her to be a whore.

[schild]

You really have no idea how offended or not I am by the word though mate, I'm as faceless as you are.

But I do have an idea. You're still talking about it.

[MrHat]

Just felt appropriate.

[Azazel]

Dude, I've said 50 times I have no problem with it and I'm not using it offensively. You, however, are obviously tiffed by the word. I'm asking why. If you don't want to talk about it, that's cool. But understand right now, that dude, sometimes a whore doesn't need a dick in her to be a whore.

Maaaate. I told you that I think the word is disrespectful and stupid. Admittedly, using it as part of slinging generalised shit to faeless people on the internet isn't so bad, but MTV's grind or not, I think you'll get slightly more than a "meh" reaction if you use it in the real world. You work at EB or some other software store, right? Try usinmg it to your female customers in an inoffensive tone. "How may I help you, whore?" if you'd like to test it's inoffensiveness.  

And your last sentence. ..so after all that work you did with semantics and quoting dictionary.com or whereever you googled that definition from, after having all your arguments beaten, (SHE COMPROMISED MY PRINCIPLES!!~) you've just decided to just go back to the most base argument of all, with some "you're taking this way to personally, d00d" throw in.. So sad.   (you need a crying smiley)

I'm still talking about it since I'm clearing space off this machine across the network and I can't do anything more productive like play WoW or BF2 or SWBF2 for a bit. On the other hand, you're still bullshitting on as much as I am...

..does this mean you really care?



 

[MrHat]

Are you guys gonna kiss?

[schild]

Maaaate. I told you that I think the word is disrespectful and stupid. Admittedly, using it as part of slinging generalised shit to faeless people on the internet isn't so bad, but MTV's grind or not, I think you'll get slightly more than a "meh" reaction if you use it in the real world. You work at EB or some other software store, right? Try usinmg it to your female customers in an inoffensive tone. "How may I help you, whore?" if you'd like to test it's inoffensiveness.  

Are we in an EB? Is this not the internet?

And your last sentence. ..so after all that work you did with semantics and quoting dictionary.com or whereever you googled that definition from, after having all your arguments beaten, (SHE COMPROMISED MY PRINCIPLES!!~) you've just decided to just go back to the most base argument of all, with some "you're taking this way to personally, d00d" throw in.. So sad.   (you need a crying smiley)

The definition was all I needed. You're still going. She didn't comprimise my principles. She comprimised HER principles. She didn't want to shake tits for a job she took demotions for but she'll shake tits for namesless people on the net. Like I said, words are hard. She couldn't comprimise my principles if she did a broadway play involving a man dressed as Gandhi fucking her in the ass while she was dressed up as Hitler and having someone in the crowd dressed up as Pol Pot handing out propaganda papers.

I'm still talking about it since I'm clearing space off this machine across the network and I can't do anything more productive like play WoW or BF2 or SWBF2 for a bit. On the other hand, you're still bullshitting on as much as I am...

..does this mean you really care?

I really, really do. This is the closest thing to drama we get in the industry. And trust me when I say this, we take what we can get. Are you her girlfriend? SHE'S NOT PAYING YOU WELL, IS SHE?

[Azazel]

Are you guys gonna kiss?

Yes. Yes we are.

[Samwise]

Seems more appropriate to a thread devoted to a camgirl:



I couldn't find the "Horsemen" one.   :-(

And now... kittens!

[Tebonas]

The evil strangling of mother kittens by their offspring has to stop!

Poor mother kittens!

[schild]

Just putting that out there.

[Azazel]

Are we in an EB? Is this not the internet?

Oh sorry, I thought you were explaining to me how the word hasn't been offensive since 1994. My bad.

The definition was all I needed. You're still going. She didn't comprimise my principles. She comprimised HER principles. She didn't want to shake tits for a job she took demotions for but she'll shake tits for namesless people on the net. Like I said, words are hard. She couldn't comprimise my principles if she did a broadway play involving a man dressed as Gandhi fucking her in the ass while she was dressed up as Hitler and having someone in the crowd dressed up as Pol Pot handing out propaganda papers.

No, you were going on about your opinion being gospel and the rest of the world agreeing with you. See?

Showing your body for money isn't comprimised principles for personal gain? I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure I have the majority of earth on my side in saying that it is, no matter how much I love zee porn.

Like I told you before, people's principles are their own. Just because you think that A and B are the same doesn't mean that everyone else does. Because you are not the arbiter of anyone else's morals. See how that works?

Seriously mate, you keep changing your argument and reasoning every third post or so, and throwing in "this is personal to you, isn't it?" every other post doesn't help your argument one bit. Straw men are lovely this time of year though, so I've heard.

I really, really do. This is the closest thing to drama we get in the industry. And trust me when I say this, we take what we can get. Are you her girlfriend? SHE'S NOT PAYING YOU WELL, IS SHE?

Yes, I am really her girlfriend, and no, she's not giving me enough money or dildo-satisfaction, so I'll be taking my powerglove and the PC case of lurve and leaving in the night.

As for really caring, hey I'm as entertained as you are, I'm sure. But it doesn't mean I truly care. You know as well as I do that she'll be pretty much forgotten in a week, as I said before. I'll grant you that's no reason not to watch the drama as it unfolds. Were you the one who posted the f13 link to her boards?


*kiss*


Oh, cute kittens, and nice catgirl, too.

http://www.catwoman-copycat.net/home.htm

[Evil Elvis]

The definition was all I needed. You're still going. She didn't comprimise my principles. She comprimised HER principles. She didn't want to shake tits for a job she took demotions for but she'll shake tits for namesless people on the net. Like I said, words are hard. She couldn't comprimise my principles if she did a broadway play involving a man dressed as Gandhi fucking her in the ass while she was dressed up as Hitler and having someone in the crowd dressed up as Pol Pot handing out propaganda papers.

Whore she may be, you're seriously grasping at straws on this whole hypocrisy thing.  Especially when you've already stated in this thread you felt her claims - if valid - were unacceptable in the workplace.

Just because she's willing to do something of her own volition doesn't mean she's not entitled to the same basic rights as the rest of us, or that she doesn't have the right to be offended.  Stop being difficult.

Now, more teledildonics plz.

[Azazel]

But difficult is what schild does. There's many threads here attesting to that.

anyway, my shitty maintenence is done with, so I'm going to go blow shit up and then maybe whack some foozles. I'll catch up with the fun and games later on. See if you can find any good pix of that drow Realdoll the EQ freak ordered a couple of years ago, please.

[schild]

I'm definately in bizarro world here if I'm [the only one] seeing a difference in flaunting your boobs at the workplace or flaunting them on the internet. I mean seriously, she apparently has had the webspace and has been around for a while. So whoever wanted to at her workplace could have probably found nude pics of her without much effort. Which means she might as well have been flaunting her boobs. Which means she wasn't getting promotions because she sucked at customer service. Which is pretty obvious given the blog posts. That's all I was getting at.... at first.

Then I defended Fabricated for stating the obvious. And some people got all in a tizzy. I'll go to sensitivity training before I decide to put sand in some users' manginas next time.

[Triforcer]

Then I defended Fabricated for stating the obvious. And some people got all in a tizzy. I'll go to sensitivity training before I decide to put sand in some users' manginas next time.

You've forgotten that while people here are for the most part normal and will rightfully laugh when some schmoe in Mississippi sandblasts his genitals, we collectively have specific weak spots that our cutting and trenchant wits would otherwise savage.  The following, in the entire LTM Diaspora, cannot be criticized:

1) Internet dating.
2) Internet MMO dating.
3) 40 year old man dressing up as 15 year old Japanese girls.
4) 15 year old boys having sex with 40 year old women.
5) Apparently this, for some reason.
 

[schild]

I always forget about number five.

[Ironwood]

Hmmm.  I come back and there's a seven page thread.  Strangely arguing about a word that I was first to use in the thread.  And yet no-one's called me on it.

It's almost like people like to bash the 'Puritanical Americans', but no-one wants to touch the 'Angry Scotsmen'.

Fair enough.

I ain't gonna dance back and forth on this one.  I'm not even inclined to argue it :  She's a whore.

If your only definition of being a whore is someone who takes a Penis and puts it in their Vagina shortly before putting the Penis's currency into the Vagina's Bank Account, then you are a complete and utter fucking knob.

In so many ways is this woman a whore.  Attention whore, link whore, cash whore, principle whore.  She's a fucking, fucking whore.

Don't ever make me agree even remotely with Schild again.  It's upsetting.

[Tebonas]

You are as wrong as Schild is, but less entertaining when poked with a stick.

In a thread about sexuality and porn, OF COURSE the first applied definition of whore is the literal one, not the other one. But the problem with Schilds opinion is not the usage of the word whore. His problem is that he thinks there is no difference between women who market their body on their own and women that are forced (or think to be forced) to market their body to achieve things on an unrelated field.

This was your opinion as well? Sorry, missed that.

[Ironwood]

Mate, she's even posted on that damn blog of hers that 'The Increased Traffic to My Website is a Bonus tho !'

Lol.  wtf.  !!!!oneone.

Yes, I imagine it is a bonus.  A totally unexpected bonus I'm sure.  A totally unplanned and unexpected bonus.  A totally unplanned and unexpected and welcome because your car is broke down and you need a new one bonus.  A totally.....

Nope, can't do it anymore.

Whore.

kthx.

[Numtini]

She's a whore? No, she stopped working at SOE and now runs her own porn site. She used to be a whore, now she's a businesswoman.

[schild]

In a thread about sexuality and porn, OF COURSE the first applied definition of whore is the literal one, not the other one. But the problem with Schilds opinion is not the usage of the word whore. His problem is that he thinks there is no difference between women who market their body on their own and women that are forced (or think to be forced) to market their body to achieve things on an unrelated field.

ONCE AGAIN, just before I pass out, I'll repeat myself. I did not say that SHE was force to flaunt at SOE. I did not say that she THOUGHT she should be forced. I'm saying she obviously wasn't getting promoted based on her performance. Which, given the writing on her pretty little blog, was trashy - but rather that someone else flaunted and god the raise. My point being that if this was the sad truth of it, she should have stood up for women everywhere. Instead she posted a whiny little bit on her website talking about problems and SOE, making allegations, and how porn is a better fit.

I can't believe I had to type that for the fourth or fifth time. Next time I'm just quoting myself from 7 pages ago.

Now, there is a difference between women that market their body on their own and people that are forced. But since we're talking about a hypothetical situation at the moment since I don't believe Ms. Wacko, we'll just pretend it all played out. Someone who's willing to market her body on her own website is pissed at another girl who was willing to flash a little cleavage around the office to get ahead. Odds are the second girl wasn't forced and understood the playing field. If my competition was a girl who did porn I'd certainly up the ante. Sure, it's not right. But at the end of the day - they're both whores.

Now what's the problem here? Do I stutter? Are the sentences all fragmented and full of spelling errors? Or is it not clear to you that both of these girls are insane even though the second girl was probably a better fit for the job (promotions) because she was willing to do what the brass said? Retention is probably, at least, 30% consumer relations. This girl, our goth friend, bites ass at it. And look at her goddamn picture on the website. You think people had to see her naked at SOE's office? Hell no, they can imagine it and look up pictures. I would seriously consider putting real money on a court case if something ever arose on it. "The case of the sexually discriminated against amateur porn starlet vs. SOE." Oh yes, it would be an epic battle. Sony could get a public defender for it and come off clean as a whistle. No judge in his right mind would buy her brand of bullshit. Little miss damaged goods just wants to blame everyone but herself.

Now, someone can call me a shallow prick. But I'm simply not going to bend for this "victim."  Of course, I could be wrong, but it's not likely. Our girl here seems to be all about self-empowerment, hence the passing of the buck. If she had a case, it would have been all over the gamingsphere.

[Merusk]

My god you people were bored last night.

[schild]

My god you people were bored last night.

I caught up on Veronica Mars, Dead Like Me (again) and a wee bit of Magic the Gathering Online. I also  and  . But in between it all this was the most far fetched thread that kept me entertained today.

[Tebonas]

The fact that she thinks she would have to show her boobies to get a promotion in a Customer Service job makes her at worst deluded.

And, in the real world if the other girl really would have gotten ahead soley by flashing a little cleavage that would be terrible wrong. Lawsuit wrong. Bosses fired because of it wrong. Yes, girls get ahead by using their female guiles. If it is suspected they are branded office slut. If it can be proven by somebody who was in line for the promotion you have your lawsuit. In no possible way is that "understanding the playing field". If that would be the playing field at Sony, the lawyers would have a field day.

I don't care for this girl one iota. She probably is one of these whiny bitches (not in the female dog sense) with a sense of entitlement blown out of proportion. I just don't find an openly sexually charged workspace ok just because she is a whiny bitch.

Working day between two free days. Nobody calls, nothing to do. You can't even imagine how bored I am...l

[Ironwood]

I can.

[Tebonas]

Yes, I presume after this thread you can.

[Soukyan]

My god you people were bored last night.

I'll say they were. This thread died on the first page amd it's up to ... 7? *boggle*

[Ironwood]

 But the problem with Schilds opinion is not the usage of the word whore. His problem is that he thinks there is no difference between women who market their body on their own and women that are forced (or think to be forced) to market their body to achieve things on an unrelated field.

This was your opinion as well? Sorry, missed that.

You stealth edited this in.  If I understand you correctly, this is not my opinion as well.  My opinion differs.  Assuming that you have understood his opinion.

Of course, my opinion believes that this silly cunt wasn't forced to do any such thing, nor was her colleague who got promoted forced to do any such thing.  I think she's an incredible attention whore with a fucking jealous streak a mile wide because Mommy and Daddy didn't fucking want her.  I think she should go and fucking kill herself and stop blaming those around her for her own fucking shortcomings.



See why it's best not to get involved ?

[Tebonas]

I think of her as you do. And I don't say that just because I can go home in under half an hour.

[5150]

I honestly cannot believe how much attention the throwaway remark about the 65 page community relations policies manual has gotten. :P

I'm probably not going to make myself popular [with Raph] but it would seem that, as far as SWG goes, no one at SOE read the version of the manual Raph described........

[Azazel]

Fuck, even I'll agree with Ironwood on that one...

[Calantus]

Oh comeon... she a goth chic with a troubled past made up of druggo parents, abuse, rejection, leaving home early, personal drug abuse, and black makeup. She runs a porn/webcame/whateverthefuck site where she flashes boobies while modeling B&D outfits. She then complains about someone being promoted above her for supposedly flashing their tatas, and how it cannot possibly be because she is a crazy goth psycho bitch who most probably does not get on well with the higherups (she thinks wolves are better than people my she must love and get along with everyone). She then throws a tantrum and accusations while whoring it all out to get attention and site visitors.

Pfft. We've all heard it before I'm sure. It's like she printed it from a textbook. How did this hit 7 pages again?

[Signe]

This entire thread has a big fat hairy ass.

[Dren]

This entire thread has a big fat hairy ass.

That jiggles...