Warhammer Online

[schild]

I'll play you online, Haemish. I used to play Warhammer 40k and I stopped because of the type of fans you are describing are exactly how you described them. It is scary shit.

[Alluvian]

I will play Dawn of War online with Kaid here.  That is probably about it.  And about all I really need.  Maybe if we find some of our other online friends playing.  Hopefully the AI functions decent in skirmish mode so you can play 2 coop humans vs 2-6 AI opponents.  That is how I prefer RTS anyway.  Coop.  I get overly frustrated losing RTS games otherwise.

[cevik]

Hopefully the AI functions decent in skirmish mode so you can play 2 coop humans vs 2-6 AI opponents.  That is how I prefer RTS anyway.  Coop.  I get overly frustrated losing RTS games otherwise.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way about RTS games.  If you need another human to coop with when this comes out, look me up! :)

[Miscreant]

Tabletop 40K rules are carefully designed to bring out anyone's inner jackass.
 
If talked into playing, I carefully remind myself that the rules are vague, arcane, unenforcable and often nonsense.  I chant three times "I must not care whether I win or lose -- the object of the game is to make a cool-looking, temporary diaroma."  Then it's passably fun.

[Sky]

Hell, I don't even like RTS online co-op. I simply play no RTS online, no pause feature. The only reason I can even play RTS is using pause to make it a 'virtual' TBS. I'm old or something.

[Riggswolfe]

Look, if you play a game and don't like it bitch all you want. It's sorta silly to bitch about something you've never tried. It reminds me of those senators who try to get video games banned when most of them have never even seen one. If it is egomaniacal and condescending to say try it before you say you don't like it then I guess every parent on this planet is a condescending egomaniac.

It's fine to post you don't like PVP, it's fine to insult those who like a different playstyle (inbred 12 year olds), in fact it's almost a requirement in some parts.  It's also fine to insult the work of devs for a game even before the Beta starts (lazy developers), I just think it's funny, given your earlier statement.

The reason I insult PvPers is

1) I've had too many bad experience with PvPers to give them much credit. From being griefed, to having PvPers lead the "Nerf it!" bandwagon I just don't like the mindset generally. I'm speaking of hardcore PvPers here and not the casual types who may engage in it if given a choice

2) PvPers often come across as very arrogant on game forums. "You just don't like challenge" or "You're a pussy in real life because you don't like PvP."

Yes, I insult the devs for lazy development work because bluntly PvP is basically flipping a switch to let Players kill each other then calling it a "player-driven game." What this usually means is that the devs don't have the talent/time/desire to make good PvE content.

[Big Gulp]

Hell, I don't even like RTS online co-op. I simply play no RTS online, no pause feature. The only reason I can even play RTS is using pause to make it a 'virtual' TBS. I'm old or something.

Right there with ya.  If I'm looking to be frenzied I'll play an FPS.  If I'm playing a strategy game I want to take my time, micromanage everything to my heart's content, and while away the hours.

[Arthur_Parker]

Riggswolfe, I don't care why you do it, I just thought it was amusing to see, given your previous statement.  

I imagine that I don't agree with you on a lot of things but the hardcore PvPers being the leaders of the nerf it bandwagon is just a crock.

My experience is that the hardcore PvPers are playing the overpowered classes that end up nerfed, as they quickly identify the fastest way through the level grind to get to the pvp.

As pvp has been generally level based and in pvp level based game, level rules all, they are generally faster levelers.

[Rasix]

You mean you guys don't like competing with a 14yr old Korean kid that plays 10 hours a day, types 200 wpm, and has enough caffeine in him/her to kill a small horse? GAWWWD, pussies.

Really, I'd enjoy online RTSs if they didn't force you to have an optimal build order, to memorize all of the short cut keys and to be on your toes, wired into the game for hours at a time.  I'm just not 16 anymore.

This is perhaps why the turn based, tactical squad strategy games are just the pinnacle of gaming for me nowadays (along with RPGs of course).

Sorry for the aside, the above has little to do with the topic of the thread.

[HaemishM]

Really, I'd enjoy online RTSs if they didn't force you to have an optimal build order, to memorize all of the short cut keys and to be on your toes, wired into the game for hours at a time.  I'm just not 16 anymore.

This is the reason I'm hoping for a good single-player skirmish mode, because I refuse to play RTS's online with people other than those here. I'm not fast enough on the mouse to be anything other than meat to the vast majority of online RTS players with build orders memorized.

[schild]

What are you talking about? I just got warcraft III and I love getting owned in 5 minutes by a full army of orcs. What? That's impossible? Tell that to these prepubescent jerkoffs who make fun of you after you get annihilated.

It's ok though, I told them their mother is a cunt.

[geldonyetich]

So long as we're on the topic of RTS games, I'll point out that the Perimeter Demo shows a game that attempts to reinvent the genre from the ground up.   I don't think that they've entirely done away with the "twitch is teh win" that you'll see in Warcraft/Starcraft but the game seems to require quite a bit more brainpower to win.

[schild]

I've played it. I'm gonna have a review up on it in a couple of days (hopefully by the US release). Reinvents my cock and balls. What it does is cripple my machine and brings back nightmares of zerg rushes.

Edit: But now the zerglings can morph into snipers who can morph into, yegah just make it all go away.

[Alluvian]

What are you talking about? I just got warcraft III and I love getting owned in 5 minutes by a full army of orcs. What? That's impossible? Tell that to these prepubescent jerkoffs who make fun of you after you get annihilated.

It's ok though, I told them their mother is a cunt.

You should have said they were fags I think.  Or fagity faggot fag fuckers of fagdom.  I have never seen as many brainless uses of the word 'fag' as I did while watching my son in law play Warcraft 3.  Apparently it is the new 'fuck' for the leet kiddies.

[geldonyetich]

Hmm, so they moved from using the word "gay" relentlessly to "fag".   I shall make a note of it.

[WayAbvPar]

What are you talking about? I just got warcraft III and I love getting owned in 5 minutes by a full army of orcs. What? That's impossible? Tell that to these prepubescent jerkoffs who make fun of you after you get annihilated.

It's ok though, I told them their mother is a cunt.

You should have said they were fags I think.  Or fagity faggot fag fuckers of fagdom.  I have never seen as many brainless uses of the word 'fag' as I did while watching my son in law play Warcraft 3.  Apparently it is the new 'fuck' for the leet kiddies.

Any inference that one's opponent is anything less than staunchly heterosexual is a mortal insult for the <18 set.

[Alluvian]

No, only the moronic inbred < 18 crowd.  There are other types.  Some are actually smart.

[Big Gulp]

Any inference that one's opponent is anything less than staunchly heterosexual is a mortal insult for the <18 set.

You're not kidding there.  My main character in COH is a tanker named Captain Pansy, and I made him about as gay looking as possible.

Half of the people I run into get the joke, the other half spams me with "OMG, FAG U SUK!!!!11!!"  Granted, I'm probably immature for creating the character in the first place, but that reaction is just mind-bogglinginly retarded.