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MrHat
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on: November 07, 2005, 06:51:57 PM

I'm in a rut.

WoW got boring.

Civ4 while unbelievably fun, can only be taken in small doses (single sessions a week almost).

DoD, CS have no hold over me anymore.

XBox sucks.

XBox 360 sucks (and it's way bigger than the pictures make it look; still bigger than the original PS2).

BF2 still fun?
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Reply #1 on: November 07, 2005, 09:51:21 PM

Xbox 360 ain't that big. Well, it's not much bigger than the PS3 - which is thicker at the middle. And it doesn't have godforsaken boomerangs as controllers.

My advice? Buy a PS2, n00b.
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Reply #2 on: November 08, 2005, 03:52:44 AM

Still fun, yeah. I'm pretty casual when it comes to shooters in the first place, but I play this more than others.

Whether or not you have decent players on a server is still the biggest factor of "fun" more than anything else, I guess.


I sold my new slim PS2 to a friend. He gave me the paying price AND his old PS2....The big motherfucking first edition one....with a blue stand!

Finally got a chance to see the 360. It isn't any smaller than that clunky PS2. Mucho ugly too. I doubt I'll ever get one --- It took me forever to get the first Xbox, and the only reason I bought that was because it was cheap and used. Also, it gave me only a handful of great exclusive games, and all of those except one remain exclusive. I don't even expect that for the 360.

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I'm sure the time for my fun in BF2 will run out soon though....What with the new expansion coming out and all (I don't have any plans to buy it). Sooner or later, trying to find servers without the expansion features will be too time consuming to bother with.
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Reply #3 on: November 08, 2005, 09:38:16 AM

My girl is pushing me to play more BF2. I have nightmares of smacktards. I think this was easily one of the best games ever made utterly ruined by the fucking morons playing it. Not all by a longshot, but it doesn't take many to fuck up the entire experience.
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Reply #4 on: November 08, 2005, 11:40:46 AM

You can avoid the most fucktardery by playing on clan servers instead of the generic public servers. Find one with admins on most or all of the time, and who kick the biggest retards liberally.

As for the original question, the game is still really fun. I haven't played as much recently (PC issues, then Civ IV and D&D alpha), but I still blow off some steam shooting people in the face a couple of times a week.

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Reply #5 on: November 08, 2005, 04:17:12 PM

It'd be cool if they had an 'invite-only' feature that allows players to invite their friends into a private server(after, of course, some introductory period where the player has to show he's not a dumbass and isn't banned/voted off the server). That way you could have private servers that won't just die out when the admin is on vacation.

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Reply #6 on: November 08, 2005, 07:20:30 PM

I still am having fun blowing stuff up in BF2 even on public servers.  Have found a server in Chicago that is decent ping and usually just city maps (no fucking jets!!! yah!!!).  Hopefully when BF2's expansion comes out, they will add shoulder fired SAM's...that and maybe the avenger humvee platform (humvee with 8 stinger missles and 50 cal) and vulcan mounted on a m113.  Of course the could add the A-10 and AC-130...but man that would be nuts if you were not a US Marine.  Another cool idea, add a British Expeditionary Force, those bloody brits could allways drink and act nutty when I went drinking with 'em in Germany/Netherlands  :-D

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Reply #7 on: July 18, 2006, 11:51:26 AM

Just had to add a story from last night.

WayAbvPar and I are playing on a server and a clan is starting to steamroll so we log and find a more "tardy" one.

We're off doing our own things getting kills, I die and spawn on him as an engineer.

He's up in a crane, rather then jump down I decide to see how the engineer SMG is for sniping. Four kills later I decide it's ok. I whip out the pistol and get two more then we go down and capture the flag.

But the most priceless moment of the night was when I chased a tank and put a mine behind it. Then put one in front of it. The driver jumps out and starts to gun me down, I jump into the tank and run him over.

Then I got to laugh at him shooting the TV missile with the chopper. (The main gun isn't quite as funny - more sad.)

Course he got to laugh at me for hitting things I shouldn't then flying like a pro up pipes and through tunnels.

I think my favorite quote from the night however was:
me: DID YOU SEE THAT!!!!
him: No my eyes are still closed in fear.


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Reply #8 on: July 19, 2006, 11:25:31 AM

Yeah, flying with Fur is all kinds of scary. You will get up close and personal looks at mountains, buildings, telephone poles, and all sorts of other solid objects. He also likes to fly with the nose down far enough that the gunner can't look forward with the TV guided missiles, and then blame the gunner when he doesn't hit the target. OTOH, it is a hell of a lot of fun, and you will giggle like a school girl  :-D


He also forgot to mention- when we were on the crane sniping, a friendly arty strike hit below us. An enemy body blew up to almost eye level on the crane. Most amusing.

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Reply #9 on: July 24, 2006, 08:42:37 AM

Finally stalled out a bit with Oblivion and loaded up some BF2 over the weekend. I'm a bit rusty, but I did improve my grenade launcher accuracy from 61% to 62%. Found a decent ping server (SFS clan's, about 70ms) with some team play going on. Mostly kept my kills over my deaths with decent points, so not entirely over the hill...was the best assault kit on the server for a few rounds.

Did they nerf reloading time on the grenade launcher? Still my favorite weapon (I never get tired of compliments on my long range, off-the-cuff nade kills, made one about 100 yards last night), but it seemed damned slow. The close-range bounce is odd to get used to, as well. I actually ended up using the assault rifle more often.

And a few sweet, sweet knife kills.
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Reply #10 on: July 24, 2006, 12:30:16 PM

I got 2 sweet knife kills a couple nights ago. Two guys were rocket-sniping and I killed the first one then realized there was a 2nd one there and got him too.

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Reply #11 on: July 24, 2006, 12:49:52 PM

Rocket snipers annoy me almost as much as noob tubers. Luckily both are easy to kill if you see them coming, since they don't adapt very well to changing circumstances.

I am FINALLY getting better and 1v1 CQBs. I have learned to aim for the top of the torso/head area, which has led to a much higher K/D ratio when coming around a corner to find someone 10 feet away.

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Reply #12 on: July 24, 2006, 12:51:30 PM

I single-handedly took out five guy with my grenade launcher and rifle, then a guy jumped out in front of me and I almost ran him over. Remembering the grenade bounce rule, I whipped out the knife and stuck him in the face. Moments like that aren't common, but it sure brought back the old days when I was in high BF1942 form and could layeth the smacketh on pubs with abandon. Good times.
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Reply #13 on: July 24, 2006, 07:23:34 PM

I had a good map a few nights ago - playing Strike at Karkand as a MEC. Enemy had the back base so I would grab a truck at any spawn that had one open and drive up to the US side gas station and grab a free tank or APC. Every the commander was sitting in the same place and I would get a free kill.

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Reply #14 on: August 02, 2006, 11:29:36 AM

I've seen a hack work recently on ranked server. This guy just spammed vehicle drops on a flag. It lags like crazy, then it starts blowing up...even tanks won't survive them ...Uploaded it

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Reply #15 on: August 02, 2006, 12:06:35 PM

They seriously need to unfuck vehicle drops. Vehicles landing on arty and destroying it is just fucking clownshoes, and any commander who uses it as a strategy is a douchebag of the highest order.

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Reply #16 on: August 02, 2006, 12:18:01 PM

Yeah, that and the stupid fucking hopping bullshit. Seriously they need to tie jumping to the fatigue meter.

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Reply #17 on: August 02, 2006, 12:52:20 PM

Agreed on the hopping. I wouldn't know about the vehicle drops, I'm still playing vanilla BF2.
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Reply #18 on: August 02, 2006, 05:28:59 PM

Do you guys still hop on TeamSpeak when you play? I remember you used to be on all the time playing. I have BF2 laying around, feel like reinstalling it. That or buying The Ship.
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Reply #19 on: August 02, 2006, 05:32:37 PM

I was thinking about getting The Ship as well.
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Reply #20 on: August 03, 2006, 06:49:26 PM

I've been on a server with the vehicle-drop hack too. Man, it was the first time I saw it, and I just sat there, amazed. And then I got killed. But I have been enjoying myself with it. I am still clueless about all thing hacked on BF2. I am still tyring to get better at close-quarters combat. Basically I suck at it unless I am Medic and never equip the gun, heh. I get waaaay more points that way too. I've always been a mid to long range support guy.

I too get annoyed with the hopping, and friggin jets. I really really wish they would bump up the damage done by the anti-aircraft emplacements so if you hit, it will kill the friggin thing. Jets are here and gone so fast that its hard to get off a shot, and impossible when they pop flares and the targetting ALWAYS follows the flares. They should double the damage on the AA guns. Jets suck and make the game un-fun for some people.

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Reply #21 on: August 04, 2006, 07:18:01 AM

As Wayabvpar will tell you I'm a mediocre pilot, luckily 80% of people suck more. I get owned whenever I've got someone on my 6. That being said, jets are the easiest way in the game to get kills. You look for a little box on the ground then drop bombs. Then smile as your get 3-4 kills. So even dying to a better pilot every 40 seconds, You still get a good kill ratio.

Jets are far too overpowered. Add in the fact that the AA stations show up as the little square when people are in them, only other jets really have a chance of taking you down.

My solution is not to play on servers with really good pilots.

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Reply #22 on: August 04, 2006, 07:53:03 AM

I don't use vehicles much, mostly just buggies and hummers for transportation. I'm pretty good in a tank, but it seems like tanks are just big targets in BF2, I rarely last more than a few minutes because a jet goes over or a helo missile swarms me, or some guy pops me with a rocket. So I pretty much avoid armor.

But as a 99% assault player, jets don't really factor in much. I'm often under cover, and jets can't cap. The only threat I have seen from jets is when there are enough clan guys on teamspeak to have a combined arms force, and even then they tend to use an attack chopper instead.
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Reply #23 on: August 04, 2006, 09:59:50 AM

Yeah, they need to tone down the jet's targeting systems; at least make the SAM stations invisible until someone is actually locking you. It would be nice if they had either a shoulder-fired SAM or a way to randomize the SAM sites on a map. As it stands now, an experienced pilot knows precisely where each one is, and can come storming out of the deep blue at top speed, drops some bombs/fire missiles, and kill the SAM site before the operator can even get a lock. If the SAM operator is good, he will know what direction the jet is coming from and MAYBE be able to get off a couple of missiles as he dies for a simo kill, but that is rare.

I was playing on a server last night that would BAN anyone who dropped vehicles on arty (Cartillery). I wish every server would do that.

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Reply #24 on: August 04, 2006, 11:33:33 AM

Well, to be fair, static Flak Cannon emplacements in BF1942 gave an edge to pilots, even without the lockon in the new game. I generally knew where all the guns were on any given map (I was a pilot with my clan) and knew the best blind approach as well as several flight lanes that avoided them altogether. Dropping in from the ceiling at an angle they couldn't hit was always the best, though I was pretty good at lobbing bombs in at an angle and hitting the deck, too.

I miss the slower flight speeds of 1942, and my goddamned gamepad that I could fly with. This new one is great for everything but flying :(
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Reply #25 on: August 04, 2006, 11:39:43 AM

IMO, the Desert Combat mod had the best flying physics of any game I have played. Enough difference between the planes to be interesting and arcade-y enough to be fun. I have been seriously thinking about reinstalling that game and seeing if there are any good servers left out there.

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Reply #26 on: August 04, 2006, 03:02:14 PM

I'm a bit amazed they have not released an "Air Power" expansion for BF2. Seems like it would be fairly natural. Large map, lots of planes, and for humor sake. 2 uncapable bases. With a ton of AA in each.

Get all the airtards to play that one so I can go back to baseraping in a tank.

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Reply #27 on: August 04, 2006, 04:33:54 PM

They wouldn't play it though- they like being able to assrape all the poor groundpounding fuckers like us to engorge their peens and rack up points.

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Reply #28 on: August 07, 2006, 08:01:31 AM

I've played way too much BF2 in the last week, but I can't help myself. I love a good game on the 16 player maps. I'm surprised more people aren't playing it really, it kicks the shit out of CS: S. Unless you go play on a 64 player server... 64 player maps give vehicles (choppers and planes included) too much power.
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Reply #29 on: August 07, 2006, 09:56:44 AM

I only play on 64-player servers. I like the whole bit about having to stay in cover and hide from vehicles, adds a bit of realism. On a couple maps it makes it real tough, like Dragon Valley (the server I play on has a 4 or 5 map rotation, but always seems to be on Dragon :)). Since Dragon is such a PITA, I just lead a squad and back-capture with buggies/hmmv or helodrop on top of the temple and blast out defenders while my squad caps.

Damn, I love this game. Also seems very few of the tards are playing the unaugmented original client, I've had some fairly high quality gameplay compared to the months after release. Maybe when 2142 comes out I'll but Special Forces and the downloads :)
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Reply #30 on: August 07, 2006, 10:22:29 AM

IMHO Special Forces sucks ass. The other two mini-expansions (at $10 per) are worth it though.

Dragon Valley can be really fun if you get a good matchup teamwise. It is pretty easily dominated if there is a wide disparity in player talent on the teams though. I love defending at the Woodshed as an engineer- lay mines around, hide in the garage from arty, and watch the points skyrocket. Having two TOW stations and a SAM station makes it a lot of fun too.

Even though I don't particularly like it, I seem to rack up the points on Kubra Dam. Had a 25 kill 5 death round last night. Considering the fact that I don't fly, that is a pretty decent K/D ratio. I have finally found a server that is competitive, but where I am still better individually than 80% of the player base. Good times!

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Reply #31 on: August 07, 2006, 12:47:47 PM

I haven't even been on the Dam since I started playing again a month ago! I barely know that map. I barely know any of the maps, I love the size and little touches everywhere on them.

I play 99% assault, so the woodshed is usually someplace I get stuck if I don't have a vehicle :) I've capped it many times and then hid out while vehicles show up to recap, so it is fun in a way. It's funny, but I really approach BF2 as an rpg in a lot of ways. I stick to the same class and try to solve problems with being the totally wrong class for that place and time, just like some poor grunt in the field might have to.

I was considering wiping my hd and reinstalling XP (see $1500 pc thread for reason), and it hit me: I signed up for BF2 with a dummy email I've forgotten, a password I've forgotten, and a name I like (gruntzilla). Bah! I've been doing ok, stat-wise, but I don't really play for stats or points, as I said, I just kind of rp in the middle of it all. I have taken to leading squads, though, since I often present a good spawn point. I still pretty much suck, never blew off the rust I gained after splitting from the BF1942 clan I was in where I was pretty good.
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Reply #32 on: August 07, 2006, 07:57:00 PM

Dragon Valley is a great map for snipers, and that's mostly what I've been playing recently so I love it.

I find that the 16 player maps are less hetic than the others, and because I'm a player who does best with strategic thinking rather than out and out twitch I get more enjoyment from them. Unless you play with a half decent squad the bigger maps can be a touch annoying for that kind of play style.

Some maps are just so much better in the 16 player version. Kubra Dam is the number one example in my mind. As a 32 or 64 player map it's one of the worst, but the 16 player version is great.
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Reply #33 on: August 08, 2006, 04:28:39 AM

What servers you guys play on? I would like to get back into playing a bit more often, but I hate the crapshoot of trying to find a decent server.

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Reply #34 on: August 08, 2006, 06:19:46 AM

I tired playing BF2 with my MMO guild mates and while widely scattered people can play MMOs happily together it doesn't work nearly as well when you're playing an FPS and everyone is looking for the lowest possible ping server.

Road Rage is a great map btw, if anyone is still on the fence about Armored Fury.

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