Episode 3

[Ironwood]

One of the best power progressions in a sci-fi/actiony movie, I think, is Predator.  In the beginning of the movie, you establish that the commandos are bad asses.  Than you establish the predator is fucking bad ass by taking out the commandos (sometimes barely,  and with some injuries taken by the predator), but giving away his liabilities in the process.  Than Arnold uses that against the Predator.

The Bourne movies do a pretty good job of establishing than sticking to Bourne's abilities.

Which was fine, until he outran a nuke at the end.

Stupid, stupid, stupid....

[ahoythematey]

Well...Arnold is the one man alive today that I could believe surviving a somewhat nearby nuclear blast.

[Jayce]

Well...Arnold is the one man alive today that I could believe surviving a somewhat nearby nuclear blast.

Maybe he should use that in his re-election campaign.

"Vote for the Governator - even if there's nuclear war, he stands a good chance of surviving to help us rebuild!"

[schild]

Well...Arnold is the one man alive today that I could believe surviving a somewhat nearby nuclear blast.

Vin "The Cockroach" Diesel disagrees.

[ahoythematey]

I'm pretty sure Vin Diesel cannot be classified as a mere "man", as you generally refer to something that can escape a black hole as inhuman.

But yeah, he could survive a google-plexes worth of nuclear explosions and still be fresh enough to crack a smart-ass line after the smoke clears from the charred surroundings.

[schild]

But yeah, he could survive a google-plexes worth of nuclear explosions and still be fresh enough to crack a smart-ass line after the smoke clears from the charred surroundings.

He'd probably be left so dumbfounded and lonely he'd be an asshole and say "Woo, is it hot in here or what?"

[Zane0]

Tee-hee!

[Fabricated]

Slapped the comic on imageshack so the lazy don't have to click.

[Johny Cee]

One of the best power progressions in a sci-fi/actiony movie, I think, is Predator.  In the beginning of the movie, you establish that the commandos are bad asses.  Than you establish the predator is fucking bad ass by taking out the commandos (sometimes barely,  and with some injuries taken by the predator), but giving away his liabilities in the process.  Than Arnold uses that against the Predator.

The Bourne movies do a pretty good job of establishing than sticking to Bourne's abilities.

Which was fine, until he outran a nuke at the end.

Stupid, stupid, stupid....

Didn't have too much of a problem with that, considering we don't know how big a nuke it was and he fact that Predator 2 claims Arnold dies a few months later from radiation poisoning. 

God, I hated Predator 2.......

[WindupAtheist]

It did complete Bill Paxton's trifecta of having been killed by the Terminator, Aliens, AND Predator.

[Ironwood]

Didn't have too much of a problem with that, considering we don't know how big a nuke it was and he fact that Predator 2 claims Arnold dies a few months later from radiation poisoning. 

God, I hated Predator 2.......

Er, where in the film did it claim that ?  I love Predator 2, but I don't remember that bit of lore.

400 City Blocks worth were destroyed in the nuke.  But Arnie was ok.  Yeah, right.

The only convincing rationalisation I've seen is that the nuke wasn't the armband, but in the ship - which means he could have been on the outer edge of that blast.  However, the film doesn't really portray that and I put it down to fanboi after film nonsense.  You know, like most of this fucking thread...

[Evil Elvis]

400 City Blocks worth were destroyed in the nuke.  But Arnie was ok.  Yeah, right.

Maybe the blast wasn't wide, just really, really deep!

[Margalis]

How do you guys know it was a Nuke? Maybe it was some sort of other, cool alien-tech bomb.

[MaceVanHoffen]

How do you guys know it was a Nuke? Maybe it was some sort of other, cool alien-tech bomb.

An alien-tech bomb that made a very nuke-like mushroom cloud ... I'll would've bought into the whole alien-tech thing had it not been for that.  I'm shallow and only look at appearances.

Anyway, in spite of that, I still think Predator was an amazing action movie.  I still sit and watch it on TNT on the occasional Saturday.

And more on topic, Predator was a hell of a lot better and had fewer plot holes than Episode III.

[Shockeye]

And more on topic, Predator was a hell of a lot better and had fewer plot holes than Episode III.

And it had Jesse "The Body" in it.

[Ironwood]

And it had Mac in it.  And you shouldn't Ghost Mac.  Or he'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here.

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Got that ?

[Johny Cee]

And it had Mac in it.  And you shouldn't Ghost Mac.  Or he'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here.

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Got that ?

Going to have me some fun.... Going to have me some fun.... Going to

[Abagadro]

Any large explosion creates a mushroom cloud. It is based upon convection and air currents created by the explosion, not something unique to nuclear explosions.

[Miguel]

An alien-tech bomb that made a very nuke-like mushroom cloud

Any sufficiently large explosion will create a 'mushroom cloud' to varying degrees....it's just a physical property of hot expanding gasses (Boyle's Law mostly).

OMG, did I just say that? :)

Actually, what gives it a way as a nuke is the flash of light.  Of all the explosions that I know of (chemical or otherwise), only a nuclear detonation generates the large quantities of photons as a byproduct that give the signature 'flash of light'.

Can we consider this thread officially derailed? :)

Edit: Abagadro can type faster than I can apparently.

[WindupAtheist]

Any technologically developed species is likely to have discovered nuclear weapons, and while they might be "primitive" compared to whatever else there is, who cares so long as they're up to the task they're assigned?

"Hey Vua'glok, why do we have these primitive nuclear weapons as our suicide devices?"
"Shit man, antimatter bombs cost like six times as much, and nukes blow up just fine.  It's a suicide weapon, not an instrument of war."

[Train Wreck]

The Wookie scene was a complete purposeless throwaway. Why was Yoda there? Why were the seperatists fighting Wookies? What happened later?

I'm posting a bit late here, but my impression was that it served to show their fierce loyalty to their friends.  While all the other races happily allowed the empire to destroy the Jedi, the wookies went to war against them (possibly causing their later slavery), not because they especially loved the Jedi, but out of loyalty to Yoda.

Oh yeah, and Chubaka had to have a cameo.

[Fabricated]

The Wookie scene was a complete purposeless throwaway. Why was Yoda there? Why were the seperatists fighting Wookies? What happened later?

I'm posting a bit late here, but my impression was that it served to show their fierce loyalty to their friends. While all the other races happily allowed the empire to destroy the Jedi, the wookies went to war against them (possibly causing their later slavery), not because they especially loved the Jedi, but out of loyalty to Yoda.

Oh yeah, and Chubaka had to have a cameo.

If you consider KOTOR part of the canon, Wookies were popular as slave material thousands of years before.

[schild]

Willy Wonka.

Ya know, I'm a raving fan of the original. But you can't argue with the Depp. On July 15th I very well may have to renounce my claming that the Island will be the best movie this summer. Wonka looks fucking sharp if you look past the typical trailer they threw together. They really should have done one of those new alternate trailers like they did for RE2: Apocalypse or Eternal Sunshine. A sort of tour led by an Oompah Loompah. Well, neither here nor there, cuz that movie is going to fucking RULE.

[Evil Elvis]

You were betting on a Michael Bay film to be the best movie of the year?

Ooooookay then.

[schild]

You were betting on a Michael Bay film to be the best movie of the year?

Summer. Also known as the Season of the Blockbuster. Reading is hard, I know.

[Samprimary]

Actually, what gives it a way as a nuke is the flash of light.  Of all the explosions that I know of (chemical or otherwise), only a nuclear detonation generates the large quantities of photons as a byproduct that give the signature 'flash of light'.

Key wording 'that I know of', or that any of us know of, for that matter. If it's alien-tech, it can mimic a nuke in some ways but work fundamentally different enough to fit the movie concept and allow Arnie to survive.

The way I look at it, is that it's an explosive based on some unknown form of energy manipulation. I mean, it wouldn't make any less sense than the physics of a plasmacaster. Or an energy sifter. Or the cloak.

[Ironwood]

Heh.  Stop ruining our fucking fun.

Next you'll be telling me that any science sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic.

 

[HaemishM]

Willy Wonka.

... cuz that movie is going to fucking RULE.

No. Tim Burton needs to stop making movies and be arrested for the pedophile I'm sure he is.

[WayAbvPar]

Willy Wonka.

... cuz that movie is going to fucking RULE.

No. Tim Burton needs to stop making movies and be arrested for the pedophile I'm sure he is.

Heh (and wholeheartedly agreed). Check out An Evening With Kevin Smith for some amusing Tim Burton anecdotes.

[schild]

A pedophile directs Willy Wonka. And you're worried? Tim Burton can not fuck up Johnny Depp. He was given to us by god himself.

[HaemishM]

You're love of Johnny Depp shows the true gay within you.

Not that I disagree with his acting skills, I just didn't think Willy Wonka needed to be remade.

[schild]

Neither did Herbie the Lovebug or SWAT. But guess what, Wonka is the lesser of most remake evils. Particularly given the cast. It will be a different sort of Wonka. It's better than a complete knockoff of the original.

[WayAbvPar]

Willie Wonka shouldn't have been remade until they could actually beam chocolate through the screen into my living room. That would make it worth checking out for sure  :-D

[schild]

If by chocolate you mean shit, TV has been doing that for 50 years.

[Abagadro]

The only reason I think Wonka deserved to be remade was beacuse Raul Dahl hated the original.  If it is better familiar to the original wrttien material, it will be worth it.


/although I like the first one