Episode 3

[Jayce]

I think a big part of the original three's appeal were their grittiness.  Remember, this was back when science fiction movies were still such a novelty that everything was SUPER this and AMAZING that.

Hardly: 1970s sci-fi was far grittier than Lucas' samurai-in-space project. I am thinking Westworld, I am thinking Soylent Green, and to an extent Logan's Run despite the happy ending. A Clockwork Orange. Go further back and Planet of the Apes rears its head. Hell, even that Shakespeare adaption - Forbidden Planet - can be considered grittier than Star Wars.

The main appeal of SW was because it came out in a year when no other studios were into sci-fi so it reigned mostly alone. And because Lucas is a far better salesman and merchandiser than a director.

You have some points, but I don't entirely agree.

I don't think WestWorld or Clockwork Orange are comparable to a space opera like SW.  I never saw Soylent Green or Logan's Run so I can't say regarding those.

Also they weren't as polished with special effects as SW was.  Not that special effects makes the film as Lucas seems to think nowadays.  But they shouldn't DETRACT from it.  They should just be there.

And I certainly don't think SW's main appeal had to do with the timing of when it came out.  Its legs are too long for that.  Movies that rely on a hohum year for their success are soon forgotten if they really aren't that great.  Is there an EU for Titanic?

[Bunk]

You have some points, but I don't entirely agree.

I don't think WestWorld or Clockwork Orange are comparable to a space opera like SW.  I never saw Soylent Green or Logan's Run so I can't say regarding those.

Also they weren't as polished with special effects as SW was.  Not that special effects makes the film as Lucas seems to think nowadays.  But they shouldn't DETRACT from it.  They should just be there.

And I certainly don't think SW's main appeal had to do with the timing of when it came out.  Its legs are too long for that.  Movies that rely on a hohum year for their success are soon forgotten if they really aren't that great.  Is there an EU for Titanic?

!!1!!??!?!  :o

And you consider yourself a member of this geek community?! Sheesh. Logan's Run I can slightly forgive, but it should be seen as a perfect example of quality cheesy 70s sci-fi. But to have not seen Soylent Green? Sad my friend, sad. This is a movie in which the main hero wears a goddamn fucking hankerchief around his neck and still comes across as a cool, mysogynistic bastard. And no one, absolutley no one, manages to deliver a cheesy, end-of-the-movie-punchline while chewing the scenery and EMOTING the way Heston does. (not even Shatner)

[Arnold]

Here's the thing about Star Wars: the Jedis were never cool. Han Solo is cool. That's why Han got the girl and Luke got his hand cut off.  If you saw Star Wars and wanted to be a jedi, you are a fucking loser. 

Fuck yeah!  When I was a kid, my geeky friends wanted tgo be Luke.  Fuck the force; I wanted to be Han.

[Margalis]

IT'S PEOPLE!

[MaceVanHoffen]

And noone, absolutley (sic) no one, manages to deliver a cheesy, end-of-the-movie-punchline while chewing the scenery and EMOTING the way Heston does. (not even Shatner)

My God!  They blew it up!

[Jayce]

And you consider yourself a member of this geek community?!

I have this talent of having missed certain key movies. For example, my wife still can't beleive I never saw the Goonies until she made me watch it.

[Margalis]

And yet, apparently you've seen Dodgeball...

[schild]

And yet, apparently you've seen Dodgeball...

If you can dodge a flame, you can dodge a war.

[Jayce]

And yet, apparently you've seen Dodgeball...

Dodgeball was funny, but I don't really consider it a key movie...

Besides, it's random. I have seen most "must see" movies (at least the ones I'm aware of).

[murdoc]

I'll admit, I got sucked in. I watched the trailer. I read the spoilers. I thought 'Ok, maybe the last two sucked, but he's got to get this one right... right?'

Then I got my hands on the graphic novel and reality came crashing back in.

George really needs to sketch out a plot, then hand the reins over to a competent screenwriter and a competent director. The framework for a good story is there, but it's being destroyed by the execution.

I hold very little hope for this movie.

[ajax34i]

I think Episode 3 is going to be meh; there's too much eye candy in it for it to be a proper drama.  Big battles, crap exploding all the time, locales that are too exotic...  Sensory overload doesn't make a drama good, in my opinion.  Empire Strikes Back had like one battle, a lot of character building, and then one more big plot thing happening towards the end.

[sidereal]

I ask for it again.  Take Lucas out to pasture.  Let David Peoples or Fran Walsh write a trilogy set in the Old Republic era.  Have Ang Lee or Peter Jackson direct.  Please.  For the fucking children.

[ahoythematey]

Ang Lee?  What the fuck are you on?  The man cannot handle pulpy action, just look at Hulk.  Let him stick to his dramas, kthxplz.

[Riggswolfe]

I ask for it again.  Take Lucas out to pasture.  Let David Peoples or Fran Walsh write a trilogy set in the Old Republic era.  Have Ang Lee or Peter Jackson direct.  Please.  For the fucking children.

Just invoking names doesn't gurantee it'll be good. I could ask for it to be written by the dude who's doing such an awesome job with Battlestar Galactica but it'd probably suck. Why? Because BSG isn't space opera. That and the epileptic camerawork appears to be a stylistic choice for the series, rather than a director with ADD.

Say what you want about Lucas but at least I can follow the action scenes.

[Shockeye]

This guy needs to get more.

Poor, poor Mace. This figure just stinks. Although he’s got more articulation than previous versions, it doesn’t save everyone’s favorite badass Jedi. Probably due to his action, (squeeze his legs, and his waist swings and arms lift), he has arms that end up looking unfortunately simian. On top of that, he’s just got a poor facial likeness. C'mon Hasbro, everybody loves Mr. Jackson, so do him justice already. Mace has a ball neck, ball shoulders, elbows hampered by his action, and t-hips. At least his purple Lightsaber's lookin' spiffy. I don’t have much use for his force lighting, though his action does throw it fairly convincingly.

[Shockeye]

Unintentionally sexual Star Wars coloring book



Andrew Tonkin says: "Coloring page found in 'Star Wars: Droids' and 'Star Wars: Balance of the Force' coloring books by Dalmatian Press.

"I hope this unfortunately suggestive angle was unintentional, especially considering the father-daughter aspect of the scene. Yecch.

"Vincent Gallo's The Brown Bunny billboard on the Sunset Strip created public outcry, and yet impressionable youth everywhere are dulling their Crayolas on this very scene. Strange."

[sidereal]

Ang Lee?  What the fuck are you on?  The man cannot handle pulpy action, just look at Hulk.  Let him stick to his dramas, kthxplz.

Who said I wanted it pulpy?  Seen Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon?  Do you think he'd do a better or worse job than Lucas?

Just invoking names doesn't gurantee it'll be good.

What a weird thing to say.  People have names.  When you invoke names it means you want to assign certain people.  If you're saying 'just assigning good people to the task won't make it good'. . well, that's true, but it increases your chances pretty dramatically don't you think?  You think Peter Jackson and Uwe Boll would be equally competent?

Why don't you people have The Vision?!

[Shockeye]

Why don't you people have The Vision?!

We're too busy having The Fear.

[sidereal]

You lack The Drugs.

[schild]

One of my friends went through the rebel theme park back when I played the game and got some rebel on imperial action going on. Maybe I could edge out these, make them black and white, and sell my own coloring books.

[eldaec]

Arrgh! Threads crossed...

Vin Diesel is actually Luke's father.

[Llava]

Could someone tell me what the deal is with General Grievous?  I thought you had to be Force-enabled to use Lightsabres.  Is he?

[Shockeye]

Could someone tell me what the deal is with General Grievous?  I thought you had to be Force-enabled to use Lightsabres.  Is he?

Han used Luke's lightsaber once.

[Llava]

By "use" I mean "use with any skill."

Like... fight with it.

You're talking about when Han carved up the beastie for Luke to lay in, right?

[eldaec]

I think that idea was just another example of Extended Universe nonsense.

It's just a sword.

[Llava]

Then christ, why don't more people carry them?  Don't they have any idea how cool those things are?

Hell, even for non-combat purposes.  It's like having a compact, convienient combination knife/blowtorch.

[Riggswolfe]

The EU and lightsabers:

The EU explanation for why only Jedi use lightsabers is very simple. The blade weighs literally nothing and so people have a nasty tendency to cut their own legs off. It can be done but takes alot of training.

Grieveous, being a droid, probably knows where they are at all times so doesn't risk the whole amputee thing.

[Merusk]

Then christ, why don't more people carry them?  Don't they have any idea how cool those things are?

Hell, even for non-combat purposes.  It's like having a compact, convienient combination knife/blowtorch.

Might have something to do with that whole "Jedi must be purgedi" and Lightsabers are symbols of Jedi-dom thing.

Then there's the whole EU explanation of "Hey, it's a handle with a light beam that weighs nothing, you try swinging it around and not lopping your limbs off." that Riggs mentioned

[Samwise]

Like Llava said, seems like there are lots of handy uses for one of those things that don't involve swinging it about wildly. 

[Jayce]

Like Llava said, seems like there are lots of handy uses for one of those things that don't involve swinging it about wildly. 

Well, even in the context of the SW universe, you can't exactly just buzz down to the corner store and pick one up.  You have to construct, steal or be given one.

That said, if I lived in the SW universe, I'd definitely make it my business to acquire one if possible.  They are even cooler than assault rifles!

[HaemishM]

Droid or not, this is ridiculous.



I fail to see how this design could work in anyway without slicing its own limbs off, or having so many blind spots as to be vulnerable to anything competent. Not to mention it just looks fucking stupid.

[Paelos]

-Quick guys, we need something better than dual lightsabers in the last movie, what can we do?
-Four lightsabers?
-No Jedi can hold four lightsabers with two hands.
-We could make them some sort of lightsaber weilding droid.
-.....
-It'll make a cool action figure.
-Great, call the CGI department!

[Llava]

He was in the Micro-series they did on Cartoon Network, that gave a pretty good example of how he makes it work.

Basically, his torso and wrists can rotate.  So he's not so much a swordsman as a lightsabre-blender.

[HaemishM]

He was in the Micro-series they did on Cartoon Network, that gave a pretty good example of how he makes it work.

Basically, his torso and wrists can rotate.  So he's not so much a swordsman as a lightsabre-blender.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY!

[Sky]

Is that ridiculous 4 lightsaber guy a tie in with the new XTREMEBITCH WB toons? BUZZ FUCKING BUNNY WITH A LYTSABRRR!!!