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July 18, 2025, 12:32:03 AM

we're back, baby

I'm usually pretty immune to the celebrity gossip nonsense, but his antics recently have seriously put me off wanting to see that flick when prior to this I was looking forward to it. Good job there dippy.

Quote from: AP

Cruise, studio reach deal on 'Mission: Impossible 3'

Associated Press
Jun. 8, 2005 09:06 AM

LOS ANGELES - After more than a week of haggling over costs, Tom Cruise and Paramount Pictures have reached a deal that will allow "Mission: Impossible 3" to move ahead with filming in Italy next month.

Paramount Pictures chairman and chief executive officer Brad Grey announced the agreement in a statement Tuesday. Filming will start July 18 on the third installment in the action-adventure series, which is a remake of a popular 1960s TV show.

The film will be directed by J.J. Abrams, who joined the project last August, and will be produced by Cruise and his partner, Paula Wagner.

"Tom's history with Paramount has made for one of Hollywood's most successful relationships; the opportunity to continue our collaboration with him on 'Mission: Impossible 3' is everything anyone in show business could hope for," Grey said.

The deal fell into place after Cruise agreed to adjust his lucrative profit participation deal and shave a budget that had swelled to as much as $185 million, the Los Angeles Times reported.

The movie will feature Cruise and co-stars Ving Rhames, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Michelle Monaghan and Philip Seymour Hoffman. It is set for release on May 5, 2006.

Abrams is one of the creators of ABC's "Lost" and "Alias."

The first "Mission: Impossible" movie came out in 1996 and was directed by Brian De Palma. John Woo directed "Mission: Impossible II," which was released in 2000.

No word yet on how many Scientology tents will be on the set.

Quote from: Shockeye on June 08, 2005, 03:38:30 PM

Quote from: AP

stuff.

No word yet on how many Scientology tents will be on the set.

Italy eh? They'll never expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Hopefully, Abrams will write the thing, isntead of the assclown who wrote part 2.

Quote from: EW

TOM FIGHTS BACK

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: I don't suppose you want to take this opportunity to announce your engagement to Katie Holmes.

TOM CRUISE That's something Kate and I have to talk about. I have to talk to her about that alone. But I have to tell you, this kind of happiness hits you like nothing else.

You said on Oprah that you've never felt like this before.

Yeah.

Have you heard from any ex-wives lately?

No, listen, I don't mean to make less of those relationships at all. I wish them happiness. I wish them this kind of happiness.

You know, usually when movie stars get romantically involved, they try to keep it quiet. You guys seem to be inviting the whole world to celebrate your relationship.

I think it's important in life to celebrate these things. You know, I'm just happy. I can't contain myself. And I'm not going to try. I refuse.

What's it like reading all these stories about people not believing the relationship is real, that it's some sort of publicity stunt?

It's amusing at first. It's funny. But then you sit back and realize how sad it is that there are people who can't even imagine feeling like this. But my friends are happy for me. The people who know me are happy. My mom is happy. My family is happy.

You've been taking a lot of flak for your appearance on Oprah, for all the jumping around you did on the show. Does the criticism bother you?

No, I don't care. I can't live my life based on what other people think about me. Who cares what other people say? There are some people who just don't like to see other people happy. They try to actively stop it. They find that sort of happiness ugly. They're in the minority, but they squawk pretty loud. They're like the bullies you grow up with in school. But you know what? If they don't like it, f--- them. If people don't like it, f--- off.

Your comments about antidepressants on Access Hollywood — do you think going after Brooke Shields for her book about postpartum depression might have made the argument a little too personal?

It's not a matter of making it personal. I care about Brooke. I want to see her do well. I think she's really talented. But she's misinformed. And, you know, from that Access Hollywood interview, I've gotten over 154,000 responses from people thanking me. You should see some of the letters I get. People go for help but their lives don't get better because of these drugs. They get worse. They feel numb and they're told that's a good thing. It's becoming like Huxley's Brave New World. It's like what the English did to China with opium [in the 19th century]. How is this different? It's how you degrade a society — by drugging the piss out of it.

You are aware that your views about psychiatry come across as pretty radical to a lot of people.

In the 1980s, you were supposed to say no to drugs. But when I say no to drugs, I'm a radical? 'He's against drugs — he's a radical! He's against electroshock treatments — he's a radical!' [Laughing] It's absurd!

Yeah, but Scientology textbooks sometimes refer to psychiatry as a ''Nazi science''...

Well, look at the history. Jung was an editor for the Nazi papers during World War II. [According to Aryeh Maidenbaum, the director of the New York Center for Jungian Studies, this is not true.] Look at the experimentation the Nazis did with electric shock and drugging. Look at the drug methadone. That was originally called Adolophine. It was named after Adolf Hitler... [According to the Dictionary of Drugs and Medications, among other sources, this is an urban legend.]

Well, Freud wasn't a Nazi, but the point I'm getting at here is that expressing these views isn't necessarily a public relations bonanza for you.

What choice do I have? People are being electric-shocked. Kids are being drugged. People are dying.

There's a perception that you've become more passionate about this issue recently, about Scientology in general...

I've always been passionate about it. I've always talked about it when people asked about it. The only change that's occurred since the early 1990s has been the increase in the amount of drugs being used. That's what's changed.

Has anybody in Hollywood come to you — your agents or studio people — and asked you to stop talking about any of this?

I've had a lot of encouragement and a lot of thanks, that's what I've had.

What about that Scientology massage tent on the War of the Worlds set? Was that just massages or was it proselytizing?

I also had a cappuccino tent on that set. And I made sure the crews were fed well, too. And if someone wanted an assist from a [Scientology] volunteer, it was there for them. People are curious about it — they're always asking me about it, they want to know what Scientology is.

What about Katie? Is she curious about Scientology?

Yeah, absolutely. She digs it.

There was a story in one of the gossip columns that you had asked her not to do Factory Girl because of the drug use in the movie.

I don't even know what Factory Girl is.

It's a film about Edie Sedgwick and Andy Warhol.

I don't know anything about that. Listen, the thing you've got to know about Katie is that she's an incredibly bright and self-determined woman. She makes her own decisions.

Let me try this again — will any of those decisions involve a ring?

[Whispering, with a grin] It's gonna happen, man. It'll happen.

(Posted:06/08/05)

I hate EW more than Tom Cruise.

This thread makes me cry.

It's one thing to be happy, it's another thing to knowingly spread lies to an already undereducated public. Somebody needs to put a cork in it.

If I were running a cult that preyed on the emotionally needy and funneled money out of them while indoctrinating them into a tightly regulated and manipulative social/theological system designed to bleed one's self-reliance into cult dependancy using unscrupulous psychological techniques? It would serve me well to teach the indoctrinees that "psychologists are the enemy!" to try to prevent, as much as possible, any breakthroughs or interventions by individuals trained in counseling and deprogramming.

Has it occurred to anyone that he's acting so strange because he's off his meds? Sauced thought of that one.

Quote from: Samprimary on June 11, 2005, 06:34:42 AM

L. Ron? Is that you?

Now, I don't like psychiatrists or the therapy nation. I don't like the amount of drugs these people are prescribing.

But fuck, Tom, get off the high fucking horse, Brother Blood. If he was talking about coke, or heroin, that'd be one thing. But when he starts saying that essentially all use of drugs in pyschiatric treatment is wrong, especially in post-partum treatment, a time when suicide is a very real danger, he needs to lay off the L. Ron pipe and get a glass of STFU.

http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/gossip/tom-cruise/index.php

For anyone who needs more dirt on T.C. and Katie and L. Ron, etc. the Defamer is great.

My favorite is the replay of his "Australian 60 Minutes" interview (June 6) where Tom gets a mite testy.

I just saw this stuff today. Those T-shirt people are fast.

Edit: To make clear it is a reference to Katie Holmes because I was unsure if Fargull was being sarcastic

Is Couric in prison? Wow, shine on you crazy diamond you.

Quote from: Pococurante on June 13, 2005, 12:29:46 PM

Too late - Katie is taking the plunge.

The LRH plunge that is.

I didn't need another reason to hate Couric.

I did not read Dianetics, but I read Battlefield Earth twice and Mission Earth once. Hubbard hated him some psychologists. Cruise is just repeating his training.

You read Battlefield Earth TWICE Huh

! Are you fucking insane ?

In the end it all comes down to Thetans.

Quote from: Katie in CNN article

The former Catholic and star of television's "Dawson's Creek" grew up with a poster of Cruise on her bedroom wall and has said she grew up wanting to marry him.

There's just something wrong about dating someone who's picture you had on the wall growing up.

Katie: "OMG! Like, Tom Cruise is just the dreamiest!"
Friend: "He so totally is! *squeal*"
Katie: "Im like, gonna marry him when I grow up." *nods*
Friend: "No way! I'm gonna marry him!"
Katie: "Will not!"
Friend: "Will to!"

...

(Editted for fatfingering the enter key. I hate laptop keyboards.)

Quote from: Ironwood on June 14, 2005, 09:52:53 AM

You read Battlefield Earth TWICE Huh

! Are you fucking insane ?

I am now.

My paperback copy of that book was missing about 100 pages which had been replaced with 100 pages I had already read, it was towards the end too. I was happy. That was the worst Grayhound book ever...

Oh and this thread might have scared me back to just the game forums, there are bad things happening out there in the world. Between this and that whole Africa thing I'm not sure why I should get up in the morning anymore.

I can out do you guys. Not only did I read Battlefield Earth in highschool, but I won a contest amongst my friends to see who could finish all ten volumes of Mission Earth fastest - only reading them while in class. It took about two months.

Soltan Gris is my hero. (except for the whole cockgobbling stuff - which he was tricked in to anyways)

Holy hell man! Bunk is one of them!

Quote from: Paelos on June 14, 2005, 03:24:04 PM

Holy hell man! Bunk is one of them!

The fingers of Xenu reach far.

Quote from: Bunk on June 14, 2005, 02:45:21 PM

Is it just me or is Jet Heller the SINGLE flatest character in the history of science fiction? Talk about Alpha Male stereotype - he makes Honor Harrington look nuanced by comparisson. And the whole redeem-a-slut thing was totally there solely for the crotchshot value. Though Soltan was fun, and some of the set pieces were cool (the talent show club, the first stuff with the PR man, and the Soltan-gets-a-new-cock stuff). You could still squeeze all the stupid out and make a decent trilogy though.

Oh, and I see your two months and raise you - I finished them all in 15 days, because I was grounded at the time for getting a C+ in French. Not equivalent of course, since I read out of class only rather than in, but still set a personal record there in terms of sustained pages/hour I have yet to beat.

Quote from: Daydreamer on June 15, 2005, 03:20:34 AM

Is it just me or is Jet Heller the SINGLE flatest character in the history of science fiction?

That was absolutely on purpose. He is a parody of the Heinlein (and many other Sci-Fi stories of the time) lead characters.

Yea, I honestly think you were supposed to empathise with Soltan throughout the story, even if he was a right bastard.

Personally, I am of the oppinion though that Hubbard died about halfway through writing book 10, and his peons finished it for him. I've never read a book that shifted gears and style so dramatically half way through, and just wrapped everything up at light speed.

Quote from: Bunk on June 15, 2005, 07:48:13 AM

Yea, I honestly think you were supposed to empathise with Soltan throughout the story, even if he was a right bastard.

I think so. Hubbard was probably crazy, but he did a good job of getting his satire across. There's no way he intended those books to be taken completely seriously. Everybody was a caricature. Been many years since I read those, though, so I don't remember a huge amount. Compared to Battlefield Earth, I consider Mission Earth a comedy.

Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie Holmes

Run Katie, run! It's not too late to save yourself!

Quote from: Trippy on June 17, 2005, 02:48:25 AM

Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie Holmes

Run Katie, run! It's not too late to save yourself!

Hey, don't be a fucking douche. It's every woman's God Given right to have a batshit insane Gay husband.

You leave her alone.

Hubbard got his satire across in many ways. People like Tom Cruise just don't get it.

Which reminds me why I spend my time hunting down and playing Daikatana rather than reading about which starlett is fucking which ageing teen-heartthrob/action hero turned aging-serious-actor

Quote from: Tebonas on June 17, 2005, 03:02:36 AM

Hubbard got his satire across in many ways. People like Tom Cruise just don't get it.

I always get a chuckle out of the fact that John Travolta named his kid after Jet Heller who was for all intents and purposes the bad guy of the story and a satire of everything Scientoloy seems to think it can accomplish. People go through a lot of effort to rationalize thier beliefs, I would like to see how the Church of Scientology handles some of the stuff Hubbard says about psychologically mindfucking people in Mission Earth, I bet it would be good for a laugh.

This has officially ruined Katie Holmes for me. Saw Batman Begins last night, and in every one of her scenes, all I could think about was Tom Cruise being attached to her at the face. It was bewildering and more than a little offputting.