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Reply #70 on: September 18, 2020, 02:31:37 PM

Heretics of Dune is probably my second favorite behind the original (of the ones Frank wrote.)

Dune Messiah is the worst of the bunch.

God Emperor is definitely a different kind of book than the other ones, I give it 3.6 Roentgen.

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Reply #71 on: September 18, 2020, 02:47:39 PM

God Emperor would be more enjoyable if it were shorter, I think. In some ways, it actually bears comparison with the Foundation novels--it's as if Hari Seldon lived long enough to not only face the Mule, but to deliberately create the Mule in order to free the galaxy from psychohistory. There's some satisfaction to that, but it doesn't come with the pacing and intensity that I think would really make it work--it's a very languid, talky book.
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Reply #72 on: September 18, 2020, 05:34:55 PM

(Heretics, btw, is actually kinda decent.)
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Reply #73 on: September 18, 2020, 08:37:16 PM

I think they're all worth reading.
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Reply #74 on: October 05, 2020, 07:09:21 PM

Yeah, there's a steep drop in quality between Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune.  Children of Dune is a fun read.  God Emperor of Dune is a dour, nigh unreadable mess.

Edit #3: I was mean and bitchy and retract what I said.  Heartbreak But maybe give the book another try?
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Reply #75 on: October 05, 2020, 08:04:07 PM

Movie now delayed until October 2021(!).    headache

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Reply #76 on: October 05, 2020, 08:25:41 PM

Movie now delayed until October 2021(!).    headache
There won't be any theaters for it to open in by then. The Hocus Pocus re-release was the #2 box office last week, with less than $2M.

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Reply #77 on: October 05, 2020, 11:37:16 PM

There won't be any theaters for it to open in by then. The Hocus Pocus re-release was the #2 box office last week, with less than $2M.

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Unfortunately, you can expect more of that unless Hollywood decides to throw us a bone or two.   My theater has been open for about two months now.  We haven't had a new "Big Picture" style hollywood movie release since Tenant, which was like a month ago.   Even with capacity limits (Ontario has us capped at 50 people max in an auditorium), we are lucky if we see 50 people through our building on a good day during the weekdays.  To put that into perspective, a typical monday pre-covid we would expect to do 600-800 people.  On a typical Saturday, we could easily put 4000+ people through the building.   We are lucky if we put 1500 people through the building in an entire week now (which I guarantee is entirely unsustainable for a multiplex building with 16 screens.... so I really don't want to know what is going on in the boardrooms of the company at the CEO level as this drags on.)  

Unless Hollywood is willing to throw us something to draw bodies with, you are right, there might not BE any theaters for them to release into when the time comes.
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Reply #78 on: October 05, 2020, 11:49:57 PM

There will be theaters when there are vaccines and people feel safe to go back. Some of them just might be owned by other companies at that point which is what the big chains in particular are actually afraid of when they plead for studios to release product. Even if all the theaters were to shut down tomorrow, all those buildings with all those projectors and all those seats are going to be around because there’s nothing else viable to do with those spaces right now.

Maybe the thought of someone like Amazon or various studios buying up theaters isn’t particularly pleasant, but at the end of the day that would probably be the better option than trying to push this reopening when people clearly aren’t feeling comfortable returning.
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Reply #79 on: October 06, 2020, 12:01:40 AM

Antitrust enforcement is so lax right now the studios are probably salivating over picking them up for some sweet, sweet vertical integration.

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Reply #80 on: October 06, 2020, 10:16:31 AM

The studios can probably afford to lose the money by sitting on releases, rather than putting them out to theaters where absolutely no one in their right fucking mind wants to go right now. Without any sort of actual government intervention, the theater chain industry is utterly and completely fucked.

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Reply #81 on: October 06, 2020, 11:54:59 AM

If I was a theater chain, I'd be taking out some loans to:

a) open some new (relatively cheap, quick) drive-ins
b) temporarily shut some formerly high-traffic venues to remake them in the Alamo Drafthouse model--fewer seats, some at tables, with booze and food, reserved seating, with the intention of showing older movies Mon-Wed night as 'events'.

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Reply #82 on: October 06, 2020, 01:04:49 PM

The current evolution of the movie theater is kind of a parallel to the DUNE story.

Starts as a fuedal system (few multiplexes) with intermingled financial ties, moves into a set of vertically integrated top-down system with power in the hands of a few comeptitors, to a system where a single entity rules it all, to everything exploding out into a scattering of smaller entities fighting for scraps.  why so serious?

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Reply #83 on: October 06, 2020, 06:14:26 PM

I ain't going to Harkonnen Theater Chain, that much I'm sure of.
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Reply #84 on: October 06, 2020, 08:16:16 PM

I ain't going to Harkonnen Theater Chain, that much I'm sure of.


That is AMC. Harkonnens were part of the fuedal phase.  DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS

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