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Reply #140 on: November 26, 2018, 07:01:41 PM

FFT was certainly the best SRPG ever.

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Reply #141 on: November 26, 2018, 07:52:25 PM

I feel like Disgaea 2 is probably my favorite but I'm not going to besmirch FFT or any opinion of it being the best.
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Reply #142 on: November 27, 2018, 08:55:24 AM

Fucking console gamers.
It's a little deeper than that. A lot of us vote for the best of a genre / best version of a game. Baldur's Gate isn't the best Baldur's Gate style CRPG. Unreal isn't the best Unreal. Ocarina of Time isn't the best Zelda. It's not shocking FFT won.

Planescape: Torment will *probably* win 1999.
This tracks with my reading of the list. I was thinking Thief was great, but Thief 2 was the height of the series. Tribes was good, but Tribes 2 was great.

Also, Half Life just sucks and always has :D
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Reply #143 on: November 27, 2018, 03:55:11 PM

I actually voted for both FFT and BG, among other things.

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Reply #144 on: December 03, 2018, 07:34:38 AM



Planescape takes down 1999 handily. Second place was an interesting 3-way tie though. Except Everquest. Everyone who voted for EQ is suspect.
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Reply #145 on: December 03, 2018, 08:54:09 AM

You really cannot underestimate the impact Everquest had on gaming, positive and negative. Mostly negative but still. And yes, I voted for it, but you've suspected me for years.  Rimshot

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Reply #146 on: December 03, 2018, 03:26:51 PM

He didn't say the game was suspect, only the people who voted for it  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #147 on: December 03, 2018, 04:52:49 PM

You really cannot underestimate the impact Everquest had on gaming, positive and negative. Mostly negative but still. And yes, I voted for it, but you've suspected me for years.  Rimshot

This isn't Time magazine's Person of the Year though, we're actually trying to come up with the best game.
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Reply #148 on: December 03, 2018, 05:18:46 PM

What Vel said. If a game influenced my life or my personal gaming tastes, then I might vote for it, but I'm not going to vote for something just because it was popular.

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Reply #149 on: December 03, 2018, 07:31:44 PM

By earlier criteria, WoW would be the mmo to get best game by year.

Though if the actual criteria is best game, no mmo will win because they're all garbage from a gameplay standpoint. Few genres died so hard.
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Reply #150 on: December 03, 2018, 07:37:50 PM

What do you mean by "earlier criteria"?

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Reply #151 on: December 03, 2018, 07:41:35 PM

There's no earlier criteria that says every genre must have a best game. MMOGs stand little chance of winning any of these polls.
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Reply #152 on: December 03, 2018, 07:49:55 PM

I'm certainly going to vote for WoW, since I played the shit out of it for years. If any MMO has a chance at winning, it's WoW.

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Reply #153 on: December 03, 2018, 08:00:42 PM

WoW came out the same year as Orange Box. So. A shorter but objectively, infinitely superior experience. Hell, lots of us played TF2 way more than WoW.

Sorry, not Orange box. WoW came out the same year as Half-Life 2. Also an objectively better experience. As a reminder, in 2004, f13 gave game of the year to Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines: Colon: Bug Mess.
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Reply #154 on: December 04, 2018, 03:53:53 AM

I've never played Half Life (1 or 2) or Vampire, so I'm still voting for WoW. Technically I'm voting for 2008's WotLK-era WoW, but we're rolling all expansions into the base game so 2004 gets it.

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Reply #155 on: December 04, 2018, 06:14:54 AM

It was literally ten posts before I mentioned it. Jesus christ you guys.
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Reply #156 on: December 04, 2018, 11:42:04 AM

To say that people vote for some games because they're the best in their genre/series is not to say it's the only criteria, or even the most important one.

I'm sure there are dating sims out there that could be considered the best of their genre, but most people here still wouldn't vote for any of them (well some of you guys did play Hatoful Boyfriend a bit I think so maybe that ends up on the 2011 list).

Beyond that, if you were on Discord you could actually see us talking about these games and why we're voting the way we do. It's hard to condense all that down into this thread. Plus you'd be able to vote for stuff yourself.
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Reply #157 on: December 04, 2018, 11:58:38 AM

What Vel said. If a game influenced my life or my personal gaming tastes, then I might vote for it, but I'm not going to vote for something just because it was popular.

Everquest had a HYUGE influence on my life and personal gaming tastes, as well as on the industry as a whole. It wasn't about popularity. Its success as a 3d MMOG led to most of the AAA publishers trying to get in and outdo that success. I'd vote for WoW for the same reason.

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Reply #158 on: December 04, 2018, 12:59:07 PM

To say that people vote for some games because they're the best in their genre/series is not to say it's the only criteria, or even the most important one.

I'm sure there are dating sims out there that could be considered the best of their genre, but most people here still wouldn't vote for any of them (well some of you guys did play Hatoful Boyfriend a bit I think so maybe that ends up on the 2011 list).

Beyond that, if you were on Discord you could actually see us talking about these games and why we're voting the way we do. It's hard to condense all that down into this thread. Plus you'd be able to vote for stuff yourself.
I mean, it's more fun being consequence-free and just bitching, MURCA GRATE AGIN BAM
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Reply #159 on: December 04, 2018, 01:21:35 PM

Also the invite expired, I blame the liberal media.
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Reply #160 on: December 04, 2018, 04:02:38 PM

I didn't play Hatoful Boyfriend but I might vote for Katawa Shoujo.

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Reply #161 on: December 11, 2018, 08:20:57 PM



Yeah. Also, this was 2000, not 2001.
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Reply #162 on: December 12, 2018, 06:47:00 AM

Thief 2? Sacrifice?

Sacrifice still stands as some of the best spell effects of all time, I wish someone would integrate that into a modern game. The top end spells like Volcano and Tornado? Madness. Fun multiplayer, too.

For that list I'd say BG2 or THPS2.

edited to add: looking at a list now, NOLF was also pretty great
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Reply #163 on: December 13, 2018, 09:34:27 PM

And if you'd pop into chat, you could ensure some of them make the list!  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I'd forgotten about NOLF, and while I loved it, if I'm being honest with myself...there's no way it touches A B or C.

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Reply #164 on: December 14, 2018, 06:46:02 AM

And if you'd pop into chat, you could ensure some of them make the list!  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
Also the invite expired, I blame the liberal media.
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Reply #165 on: December 18, 2018, 07:23:36 AM



Legit the first year where I don't even think anyone gave a shit what won.
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Reply #166 on: December 18, 2018, 08:33:51 AM

Meeeeh
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Reply #167 on: December 19, 2018, 07:15:55 AM

Pretty much. I'd say the right game one though. Vice City was the sole reason why I bought a PS2.

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Reply #168 on: December 19, 2018, 07:44:34 AM

GTA3 was genre defining.  That alone doesn't put it in the same league as many of the games we've voted on for the last few years, but it was a pretty amazing console experience at the time.  A whole lot of companies have basically been iterating its original formula for the last two decades.

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Reply #169 on: December 19, 2018, 11:47:43 AM

In a sane world, Smash Melee would have singlehandedly forced the entire incestuous genre of shitty fighting games to reinvent itself. Alas we don't live in that world, but it's still probably the only game on the list that has an active community today, eighteen years later.

I didn't vote though so *shrug*
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Reply #170 on: December 19, 2018, 12:04:50 PM

Street Fighter, many of the old variants, still have a huge scene. MK3 as well. Killer Instinct's is small, but real. Also, DOA.

Basically, what?
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Reply #171 on: December 19, 2018, 01:27:40 PM

I think he meant on the list of games on the poll.

Edit: Which I guess still wouldn't make sense because people still play DAOC and there are people running PSO servers out there as well.
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Reply #172 on: December 19, 2018, 02:36:34 PM

I did (and should have said *most* active - I could be underestimating DAoC's subscriber base, I guess), but Schild's point is that having an active scene in the fighting game community doesn't indicate a game's influence or non-shittiness, which is fair.

Melee was still the most interesting thing to happen to the genre for, like, a decade in either direction.
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Reply #173 on: December 19, 2018, 03:11:48 PM

In the scene of what? Brawlers? If that's what you meant, for sure. Fighting games? No.

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Reply #174 on: December 19, 2018, 09:55:06 PM

I never liked any of the Smash Bro's games.  They were playable, but never really derived much when playing them compared to almost any other fighter.

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