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Reply #70 on: May 17, 2017, 08:37:10 AM

A book book.

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Reply #71 on: May 17, 2017, 09:07:48 AM

Is it a book book or a comic book?

Book book.  Neil Gaiman, not one of his best IMO but still worth the read.

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Reply #72 on: May 17, 2017, 08:06:55 PM

Weird and funny.  I just saw in the downstairs WC a very old looking copy of this book.  I guess my bro in law was inspired by the TV series to read the book again.  I would read his copy but it's in the bathroom and he's probably touched it with bathroom hands.   swamp poop  I'll get a Kindle copy, I think.

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Reply #73 on: May 17, 2017, 08:25:43 PM

I distinctly remember buying the book, but apparently I never read it.

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Reply #74 on: May 17, 2017, 08:33:14 PM

I read it ages ago, but don't remember it well. Never got the Gaiman hype, honestly; only thing of his I really like is Good Omens and that was half Pratchett.

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Reply #75 on: May 18, 2017, 12:15:00 AM

I thought the book is well done, but if you can get the audio book, there's a great ensemble cast reading of the anniversary edition.  The narration is top notch.

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Reply #76 on: May 18, 2017, 01:51:10 AM

There was always a mystery around Shadow in the book, I don't think he was intended to only be purely the bland every-man character.  You were immediately wondering why he was chosen for all this, and he has the tendency to instinctively know the right thing to do that hints at bigger things.

We're verging into book-spoiler territory here, so I'll desist, but one thing I do think is that we're truly missing the internal dialogue of the character of Shadow.  We're not seeing enough of HIS strangeness, since that becomes crucial later.

I'll also say that I think you're wrong here.

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Reply #77 on: May 18, 2017, 06:33:55 AM

I'm about 15% through with the book and for all intent and purposes he is the character insert with enough inherent inertia to push the plot forward.

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Reply #78 on: May 21, 2017, 10:58:54 PM

There was always a mystery around Shadow in the book, I don't think he was intended to only be purely the bland every-man character.  You were immediately wondering why he was chosen for all this, and he has the tendency to instinctively know the right thing to do that hints at bigger things.

We're verging into book-spoiler territory here, so I'll desist, but one thing I do think is that we're truly missing the internal dialogue of the character of Shadow.  We're not seeing enough of HIS strangeness, since that becomes crucial later.

I'll also say that I think you're wrong here.
I think they fixed that a bit with this last episode, as well as give us a clue how they will make this into 4 seasons. If all of their "something like this had to have happened, but it wasn't in the book" padding is this good, I will have no complaints.

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Reply #79 on: May 22, 2017, 12:34:33 PM

Last episode was pretty good. An explanation of his wife's life and death.

My favorite part:


The only part I had an issue with:

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Reply #80 on: May 23, 2017, 05:40:57 AM

You know, I just realised that one of the fun things about watching this is that the wife doesn't know what's going on.  She literally has no idea who Wednesday is.

I find it gigglesome.

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Reply #81 on: May 23, 2017, 05:54:22 AM

My wife doesn't either, but she worked out Wednesday. She's always been into mythology a bit though.

My only gripe with this episode is that I don't think Emily Browning is a very good actress.

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Reply #82 on: May 23, 2017, 06:39:46 AM

I didn't think she was a good actress until watching this episode, she knocked it out of the park.

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Reply #83 on: May 23, 2017, 08:28:17 AM

The last epi. was a pretty brilliant piece of interpretive TV (the fly trope especially, which alleviates some concerns in this thread on what being 'dead inside' actually is).  Obviously not an epi. that is in the book, but fills in the blank spaces pretty damned well.

My biggest issue was Browning clearly not trying to be naked, even though her character is an utter phreakshow in the bed.  It was off-putting, especially knowing much of Browning's work has been in the buff.  I don't understand why they went that route.  I'm not big into nudity in film except when it would clearly push the theme/art; and in this case it would have...  especially in the funeral parlor.

Maybe they just didn't want to overdo it given the prior epis.

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Reply #84 on: May 23, 2017, 09:21:13 AM

They either needed to show up or do a better job of making the attempts to avoid nakedness feel more natural.  It was distracting how far they went out of their way to avoid the naughty bits.

However, after 4 episodes - 3 focused on Shadow and one on her - I find her the more compelling character.  That is a problem.  Ricky Whittle just doesn't have the presence I feel this character should have.  The guy was a con man - a man that lived off his confidence game.  Yeah, he may be a bit broken by recent events, but I still expect something to pull me in to the character.  I wonder what someone like Richard Brooks (yeah - too old - but he lept to my mind as the perfect guy to be sitting at that blackjack table) or Coleman Domingo might have done with the character.  Whittle feels more like The Rock than a con man.

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Reply #85 on: May 23, 2017, 09:27:39 AM

Frankly I think Shadow is being played perfectly.  :shrug  He's a hollow character, more just the point of narration (in the book) than anything else.  And he was always more brawn than con; with an uncanny mental capacity (that they've so far only glossed over on the show).  Wednesday is supposed to over-shadow him (pun intended) most definitely... but, as we know that changes towards the end.


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Reply #86 on: May 24, 2017, 01:22:22 AM

Um, what ?

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