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Reply #245 on: February 14, 2017, 07:11:35 PM

Yes Rhyssa, amazing.

it's possible to never advance if you suck bad enough
And why I will never be able to do any kind of art...
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Reply #246 on: February 15, 2017, 10:12:45 AM

it's possible to never advance if you suck bad enough
And why I will never be able to do any kind of art...
Really, the only people I've seen fail hard are those who are convinced they can't be good and those who don't put in the time and effort into study and practice.

I'm still plugging away at the figure drawing class. Decided to sign up for the next 6-week run. Linking to the blog because boobies: https://cashwiley.com/2017/02/15/tuesday-night-figure-drawing-2/

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Reply #247 on: February 16, 2017, 11:26:24 AM

Had a good night, lots of painting done. https://cashwiley.com/2017/02/16/wednesday-night-oils-13/


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Reply #248 on: February 16, 2017, 12:06:43 PM

I like, I like.

Sky - do you feel you're getting quicker as you get better in the sessions?  I'd have to look back, but this portrait seems much farther along at this stage of the process (or class sessions) than you're previous ones.  Or maybe I just haven't been keeping a mental count of how many sessions you've had to work on this one yet.  You seem to have a far better range in the shadows, for example, than you did in the previous portrait.  Before it felt like everything was very, very flat for the longest time and with this one, I can see more mid-tones in the shadows.

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Reply #249 on: February 16, 2017, 02:18:03 PM

I'm definitely able to use stuff I learn at different phases of the painting and control each phase better, as I learn the function each phase performs. And looking back over the last two projects, having that perspective is probably the single biggest impact because I can focus better on what I should be doing and execute it at a more competent level. Still super primitive work, but there is definite improvement at each stage. This semester she got a bit more into the theory of first painting and breaking down the variations in plane using tone and hue. I had also been watching some master copies of Singer Sargent on the same theory, since that's a big influence on my instructor, it helps to understand it.

Here's about where I was last year in the same class, same session:


Harder to tell with the last class, since it didn't run the same schedule and I started a week late but did work at home on it.


I'm two full sessions ahead of where I was last year, since I was done with the local color layin 2 weeks ago. About the same ahead of last semester, because the model missed the first class.

My phone was really not playing along with getting the colors or values right this time. There are some nice subtleties (and not so subtleties, I'm still learning!) in the shadows. I was using a mix of browns, greys, reds, blues and greens in the shadows. His ear was noticeably hotter than everything over there, so I mirrored that (and it's also how Caravaggio painted the ear on Judith that I'm copying). And I spent more time structuring around the eye, rather than trying to get the nice eyeball detail I was always putting in too early.

Like I said, I'm still really a newb, but already I'm enjoying the amount of control I'm gaining over what I'm doing. It's really hard and frustrating but also one of the most amazing things I've ever tried. I'm hooked on oils.

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Reply #250 on: February 16, 2017, 02:19:29 PM


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Reply #251 on: February 16, 2017, 02:56:31 PM

 Love Letters

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Reply #252 on: February 16, 2017, 03:45:38 PM

Watching the instructor use her palette is at least as instructive as watching her paint. I think I'm the only student in three classes who observes her palette (last semester I parked right next to her so I could watch all class). It's unlocked a lot of control for me, because with miniatures I used to make full gradient chains for each color. She was complimenting me on my palette last night, actually. I told her I learned it from watching her, and about the palette I used for minis and she said that was much closer to the old style where apprentices would lay out full gradient chains for the master to paint from.

This way is so much more organic and lets you just focus on painting on the fly, not worrying too much about everything being exact. Love it.

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Reply #253 on: February 19, 2017, 11:25:29 AM

Finished pieces.  I still need to mount the second piece to the canvas but it's done and that part is easy to do. 

Watercolor mosaic


Footprints


I'm thinking that doing commissions with the footprints piece might work out.  Like, could do a pet's name and one kind of pawprint (blue are dog, black art cat) and personalize it that way.

Hoping both of these get some nice bids during the fundraiser auction that starts at the end of March.

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Reply #254 on: February 21, 2017, 09:59:52 PM

Had time for a 15 minute pose at the end of class tonight. I wasn't real happy with my drawing, but I think this one turned out pretty cool. https://cashwiley.com/2017/02/21/tuesday-night-figure-drawing-3/


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Reply #255 on: February 23, 2017, 11:36:52 AM

More first painting this week. Got pretty bogged down, starting with a clean palette (mix mix mix) and complex forms. Focus was mostly on the nose and getting some more proper contrast in that area. Also fixed the eyebrow and sketched in the forehead.


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Reply #256 on: February 27, 2017, 09:27:06 AM

Haven't done a sketchbook digest in a while. https://cashwiley.com/2017/02/27/sketchbook-digest-11/





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Reply #257 on: February 27, 2017, 09:47:44 AM

Man, Sky's got such a nice sketchbook with actual studies and practice and here's lazy me, just doing sketches in front of the TV.  Because I'm lazy.

Anyways, if you look at the full size version on FB here, you can see the blocking method I use for getting the figure down.  I didn't do as many changes as usual for this one, it came together pretty easily for once.


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Reply #258 on: February 27, 2017, 11:58:20 AM

I like it, looks like a miniature I think I have (who even knows anymore, time to start selling some off!).

Lazy is a sliding scale  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? I'm actually super lazy and have to force myself out of it. I've been putting in a LOT of effort into making my working environment more conducive to arting and not just sitting and playing GTA or whatever :) Like I'll get up and make a nice breakfast, put on a pot of coffee, get the classical focus station on Prime Music, etc. It's sloooowly getting better, but I still just want to be a lump and play games.

And I've only gotten my shit together with studying in the last couple months. My figure drawing instructor is not good at instruction, indeed her instruction is diametrically opposed to the neoclassical instructors I'm following. So I've had to seek independent study, and it's a pain in the butt. If it weren't for utilizing my breaks at work.... My fiancee still gets a little miffed if I want to study while she's at my house, it's something I'm trying to figure out. She's extremely supportive, but whenever I start to study she'll half-jokingly say 'Oh, it's time for the old lady to leave, huh?' Kinda sucks, but she'll just have to get over it. I can't wait until 11 at night to draw, I'm too tired by then.

The biggest help was getting in the habit of daily sketching in December. Now I try to stick to a game plan (currently figure drawing). It sometimes gets a little off track, like when I started doing head studies. But now I want to take on a second night of figure drawing, so I've got to double down on my groundwork for that. I really hate my figure drawing progress thus far! And the only way out is through, so through I go.

It also helps that I love learning stuff, always have. So art is a good fit in that regard. The downside is I've never been good with homework and it's almost all homework :) Also tough because my 'curriculum' is self-guided, so I have to avoid my natural tendency to get side-tracked. I really want to paint with oils, but outside of class it's mostly a waste of time until I master drawing a lot more.

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Reply #259 on: March 01, 2017, 01:37:16 PM

Finally starting to get some traction with figure drawing. The gesture study in particular is starting to pay off. Still need to dial in my formulation and anatomy studies (and a TON more gesture), but it's a start. Finally. Don't attempt to be an artist if you can't handle long periods of terrible drawings until you're good enough to make mediocre drawings  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

https://cashwiley.com/2017/03/01/tuesday-night-figure-drawing-4/





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Reply #260 on: March 05, 2017, 04:00:43 PM

Just had a very positive meeting with the owner of a local gallery about hosting my figure drawing night. It's kinda nutty for me to be running one after only doing figure drawing for 7 weeks myself, but the level of instruction at school sucks and even if only one person a week shows up, it'll be cheaper for me to run my own! I already know the models and just needed the space and easels.

Just pinning down a night, but looks like it should happen in the next couple weeks. I'm psyched because this is the first step of a lot of the stuff I'm trying to line up for my 'master plan', and the gallery owner is 100% on board for the whole damned plan and we're both on roughly the same timeline. Shit just got real interesting around here for the realist movement.

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Reply #261 on: March 05, 2017, 07:47:06 PM

Really like the second of those two. First is good, second has some real feeling to it.
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Reply #262 on: March 05, 2017, 08:08:12 PM

I bought one of these to help me with the human form (especially scale and posing):
https://www.amazon.com/Figuarts-Man-Gray-Action-Figure/dp/B0177DRVT0

Sure as hell beats the classic wooden dummy.  Can basically pose the thing any way you'd like, even midair.  If you trace projection it has obvious advantages as well; but that feels like cheating...  though supposedly a lot of pro digital guys (comics mostly I assume) use these with a 3d scanner to make cheap, quick, and easy 3d frameworks to draw over.
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Reply #263 on: March 06, 2017, 08:00:26 AM

Wow, that sounds damn exciting, Sky!  Good luck!

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Reply #264 on: March 08, 2017, 10:33:54 AM

Tonight's model might be our second model for the new project! Pics here, more words at the blog: https://cashwiley.com/2017/03/08/tuesday-night-figure-drawing-5/




And last week's portrait work (forgot my camera, so I snapped a quick pic while I was there last night):


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Reply #265 on: March 08, 2017, 01:14:40 PM

You do so well everywhere else that it's odd seeing the foot look like someone else drew it.  Guess what your sketchbook assignment is now.  We practice our weaknesses, not our strengths. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #266 on: March 08, 2017, 02:40:19 PM

While I do need foot practice, that one's not too far off what her foot looked like (in the confines of relatively fast sketching, since I spent maybe 30 seconds on it). The hand in the previous sketch, tho...on the other hand (ahahahaha) it was also about 30 seconds. Haven't done studies of either in any depth, so yeah. On the list. Not too important yet, my focus is mostly on getting accurate and dynamic gestures in proportion and I've got a loooong way to go.

But thanks for thinking I'm doing well in places!

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Reply #267 on: March 08, 2017, 02:54:24 PM

No worries, thanks for not taking the criticism as an attack on ability. :) Critiques are how we get the best feedback. Judging our own work sucks.

You did, however, just underscore my point. You took the same time on two very difficult parts of anatomy and got a great gesture with one while the other shows your hesitancy. You're unfamiliar with feet in a way you aren't with hands, which shouldn't be a surprise. We rarely see or examine them the same way we do hands.

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Reply #268 on: March 08, 2017, 06:51:22 PM

I'm fine with criticism, and there's plenty wrong with my drawings. I thought the foot was a pretty decent job, since it nailed what it looked like from my perspective. Her left foot, since I didn't draw in the right foot, really. In my opinion the hand is far worse.

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Reply #269 on: March 15, 2017, 03:01:17 PM

Fucking Dropbox.  Mob

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Reply #270 on: March 22, 2017, 05:08:36 PM

Now I'm just pimping myself out - the links for the auction are up, although it doesn't go live until the 31st.

https://www.charityauctionstoday.com/auctions/art-for-the-paws-2017-1512/items/wavesmosaic-31338

https://www.charityauctionstoday.com/auctions/art-for-the-paws-2017-1512/items/footprints-31339

You can see the other canvases that have been donated as well.  There are some really beautiful pieces this year.

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Reply #271 on: March 22, 2017, 07:45:56 PM

Nice, good luck! I agree, some good stuff lurking in those offerings.

Still haven't set up my stuff on my new host, been brutal at work. Not sure if this link to the FB image will work, but I was actually happy with a 10 minute pose last night.


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Reply #272 on: April 08, 2017, 10:22:36 AM

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Reply #273 on: April 08, 2017, 05:02:51 PM


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Reply #274 on: April 08, 2017, 05:08:17 PM

I thought it was pretty. I've never had a problem with objet trouvé.

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Reply #275 on: April 08, 2017, 05:13:04 PM

Guess I missed something  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I'm slacking on getting my pics migrated. Still slumming on FB for now.







Also going to update the thread with NSFW because of the nekkid people these days.

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Reply #276 on: April 08, 2017, 05:23:38 PM


I edited because I thought it  was too lame to count as art. Made desktop wallpaper out of parts of a satellite image. But here

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Reply #277 on: April 18, 2017, 11:32:18 AM

So I decided on a whim to take part in the 100 day project.  It's where you pick a theme and do something for 100 days.  I felt like exploring something in my art that I've been doing lately (calling it "lacey vines") and making it easy on myself by doing it in pen or marker, not painting.  Feel like sharing a few that I've done so far.





Detail of a larger piece







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Reply #278 on: April 18, 2017, 11:51:38 AM

Nice! It works great with the watercolor, too.

I like those art challenges, they underscore the need to develop discipline.

At some point I'll update here, still need to migrate over the data from dropbox to my wp host. Site is up and functional, though (just lacking all the pictures that make it worth looking at, heh).


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Reply #279 on: April 24, 2017, 10:17:44 AM

Still being lazy about it (I normally do tech chores at work when possible, and I'm swamped right now). Here's a piece from last week, since I'm using it as my avatard :) Copy of a Simone Bianchi because he's awesome.


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