Star Wars : Into Spoilers - The Spoiler awakens.

[eldaec]

Did you seriously just say nobody in Star Wars has a British accent?

[Ironwood]

What accent ?

(on a not unrelated note, the Scottish Chap who was after Solo in the freighter was the worst fucking actor I've ever seen.  Also, Tarkin wannabe, who I know can act, was utter shit too.)

[Speedy Cerviche]

Did you seriously just say nobody in Star Wars has a British accent?

I don't remember any

[Ironwood]

 

[eldaec]

Did you seriously just say nobody in Star Wars has a British accent?

I don't remember any

Apart from Obi Wan Kenobi, C3PO, Tarkin, Amidala when trying to be posh, that guy talking about communications failure, the James Bond stormtrooper, Palpatine, Snoke, and the guy who Vader thinks shouldn't be so proud of the Death Star?

[Ironwood]

And Ming the Merciless.

[eldaec]

Also General Zod, Fu Manchu, and Wedge.

[Ironwood]

And the Many Bothans Died Woman ; Mon Muffma.

[Ironwood]

Also, the guy who played both Mr Bronson from Grange Hill and Hitler.

[Ironwood]

And the black chap who was the Naboo head of security.  And the Naboo politician that faked the 'come home, it's shit here, help, honestly, not a trap' message.


We could go on.  I mean, literally forever.  The movies were made in the UK for fucks sake.  The amount of Brits in there is LEGION.

[eldaec]

Naboo queen's spaceship pilot man. So important a character he got his face on a pepsi can.

The entire jedi council except for Shaft.

And the youngling who answered the stupid question about the clone planet.

Also Liam Neeson.

Cantina guy who doesn't like the way luke looks.

All OT stormtroopers.

[Speedy Cerviche]

Ok so there's been a few forgettable supporting characters with them. I still want to know where these accents come from though. Why do people from the same area have different accents? Is there a British planet they have immigrated from? Or are there British ghettos on normal planets?

[Lakov_Sanite]

Babelfish translations, obviously.

[eldaec]

Based on the evidence so far, you'd be better off asking where freaks like Han Solo get their fucked up speech impediment.

But I'm happy to go with 'they come from different places and travel a lot' then follow it up with 'have you ever visited a city and observed that people living in the same area often have a variety of accents? It's like that.'

But if you really really want a planet on which everyone speaks properly, Naboo. Amidala in Padme mode is only exception I can think of.

[Ironwood]

Ok so there's been a few forgettable supporting characters with them.

I wish I kept that 'Not Sure If Serious' pic around.

[01101010]

The entire jedi council except for Shaft.

Fucker, you owe me a new keyboard. Now I have to explain to my supervisor why the right side of my keyboard no longer works.

[DraconianOne]

And the black chap who was the Naboo head of security. 

You mean Kastagir from Highlander?

[Ironwood]

No, the Doctor from Holby City.   

[Riggswolfe]

Ok so there's been a few forgettable supporting characters with them. I still want to know where these accents come from though. Why do people from the same area have different accents? Is there a British planet they have immigrated from? Or are there British ghettos on normal planets?

Pretty much every single Imperial officer in any of the movies has a British accent while most of the Rebel alliance soldiers have American (usually Southern) accents. How you missed this is beyond me as it makes me think you haven't even watched the movies. It's blatant to the point that it was clearly done on purpose.

The best in-universe explanation used to be "Core Worlds = refined language = British" and "Other worlds (Tatooine, Hoth, Bespin, etc) = unrefined = American." Daisey Ridley throws a bit of a wrench in that.

[Trippy]

Unless she came from a refined world and kept her accent after being dumped on Jakku.

[Riggswolfe]

Unless she came from a refined world and kept her accent after being dumped on Jakku.

Well if she was Luke's daughter it's reasonable to assume she grew up on a core world before it all went to hell.

[Malakili]

Well, either way it's quite clear she isn't from Jakku.

[NowhereMan]

Also why did they cast Rey as a British accent when no one else in Star Wars has one?

Edit: Oops missed the page jump /edit

 

[Soulflame]

The entire jedi council except for Shaft.

Fucker, you owe me a new keyboard. Now I have to explain to my supervisor why the right side of my keyboard no longer works.

That one cracked me right the hell up as well.

[Azazel]

Most of the webs is pretty convinced he's Plageuis, which to me would make him a better/stronger character.  Also recall, Lucas is/was pretty bitchmode about Disney essentially re-tooling his work rather than coming up with an original plotline. 

You mean like he did? 2 Death Stars. Back to Tatooine for Vader/Anakin's origin because Luke. Stormtrooper's great grand-daddy is effectively Boba Fett. Chewbacca in RotS Because Reasons. We almost had 10-year old Han in RotS FFS!

[Malakili]

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

[Furiously]

I kinda figured Poe only appeared so they wouldn't have to introduce him in Rogue Squadron as he goes off to make millions in the spin-offs.

[Azazel]

Apparently they were going to kill him off in that crash, which seemed a bit odd.

[Mosesandstick]

I saw this twice, first with my family at the back of a small cinema, and the second time in 2D 70mm IMAX. I was pretty disappointed the first time I saw it, but really enjoyed it the second time. The movie is gorgeous on the big screen and what I saw as the stupid parts of the plot had no effect as I already knew what was going to happen. I agree with everyone who said the moving had pacing issues - I think the first half was pretty well done but the second half was a bit all over the place.

I liked the concept of Rey, but the Mary Sue bits really detracted from the movie for me.

I thought the plot around Starkiller base was daft and not believable. And not in general, but by Star Wars standards.

I think it'll be interesting to see what happens with Kylo Ren. I thought he was presented pretty well.

[Merusk]

Re: Mary Sue - Caught on the last viewing that those who say "she's never flown before" haven't a leg to stand on. You may miss this exchange in the jabber between her and Fin after the TIE chase because it's so quick.

Fin: That was brilliant have you every flown before?
Rey: Lots of ships, but never off-planet.

 

[eldaec]

The only stretch for me was being able to tell James Bond that these aren't the droids he was looking for with no training, or even any reason to think that is possible.

[Lakov_Sanite]

The only stretch for me was being able to tell James Bond that these aren't the droids he was looking for with no training, or even any reason to think that is possible.

She idolizes the resistance and seems to have as much knowledge of jedi/luke skywalker as any 5 year old today would. meaning you grew up with stories of jedis doing the jedi mind trick thing, why not try it out?

[MediumHigh]

Apparently they were going to kill him off in that crash, which seemed a bit odd.

I think the movie was supposed to be as follows.

Poe dies droid finds Rey and tells Rey she most finish the mission and get him to the rebels. Droid trust Rey because Rey saved Driod from locals who would sell the droid to the empire and spends much of the movie refusing to give it up despite multiple offers and reasons to do so. Rey gets attacked by empire flies the falcon to safety and runs into Han Solo on the run from his creditors. Or something. Anyway she proves herself to han and chew and meet the old force lady (instead of you know going straight to the rebel base) who gives Rey the light saber after she "force dreams". Now instead of freaking out, which was remarkably out of character since the whole point of her staying on Jakku was waiting for the people who left her there and the people who left her there probably has something to do with that lightsaber, she actually accepts the light saber probably moments before the empire strikes back.

 Not sure if the force dream was meant to be longer or not minus the finn parts but lets move on. She probably attempts to use the light saber in self defense, shows some a knack of it after about a swing or two. Now this can go a few ways, she either makes it to the falcon and runs, gets saved by the rebels, or end up being beaten by ren who captures her. Either way the movie is mostly unchanged, the rebels make this big plan to defeat the death star, she gets involved, han dies, and she probably confronts ren for the first or second time.

At this point she beats Ren, gets on the falcon, lands the killing shot on the death star, completes the puzzle and flies to see luke skywalker. I think someone decided that Rey can't literally do every so we have Finn and Poe.

[Riggswolfe]

Apparently they were going to kill him off in that crash, which seemed a bit odd.

I think the movie was supposed to be as follows.

Poe dies droid finds Rey and tells Rey she most finish the mission and get him to the rebels. Droid trust Rey because Rey saved Driod from locals who would sell the droid to the empire and spends much of the movie refusing to give it up despite multiple offers and reasons to do so. Rey gets attacked by empire flies the falcon to safety and runs into Han Solo on the run from his creditors. Or something. Anyway she proves herself to han and chew and meet the old force lady (instead of you know going straight to the rebel base) who gives Rey the light saber after she "force dreams". Now instead of freaking out, which was remarkably out of character since the whole point of her staying on Jakku was waiting for the people who left her there and the people who left her there probably has something to do with that lightsaber, she actually accepts the light saber probably moments before the empire strikes back.

 Not sure if the force dream was meant to be longer or not minus the finn parts but lets move on. She probably attempts to use the light saber in self defense, shows some a knack of it after about a swing or two. Now this can go a few ways, she either makes it to the falcon and runs, gets saved by the rebels, or end up being beaten by ren who captures her. Either way the movie is mostly unchanged, the rebels make this big plan to defeat the death star, she gets involved, han dies, and she probably confronts ren for the first or second time.

At this point she beats Ren, gets on the falcon, lands the killing shot on the death star, completes the puzzle and flies to see luke skywalker. I think someone decided that Rey can't literally do every so we have Finn and Poe.

Jesus, go make a blog or something and write your stupidity to your heart's content. It's beyond silly now and it's not even creative trolling.

[01101010]

Saw it this past weekend. Thought it was perfect to rekindle the old SW feel and had enough of the old guard to pass the torch on to the new guard. I agree with all the criticisms, it wasn't perfect or near perfect, but I think it was really well done for the new generations to have their own SW but enough throwbacks and old themes to rake in the old timers. Fast pace was a reflection of the ADHD generation...