Windows 10

[Lantyssa]

It is not consistent so I have no idea what is tripping it up. For now, I am manually sleeping it which doesn't seem to error out.

Windows has always had problems with sleep.  The icons resetting is likely due to the fact that Windows has never saved its desktop until you log off.  Since you're hitting reset, they're not saved.

Try getting them where you want them and logging out.  If Win 10 behaves like previous versions, those should keep their locations even if you reset.

[apocrypha]

WIndows 10 has a new bluescreen. It has a sadface on it. 

[Tebonas]

Don't I know that. I get that sadface every two to three hours on my gaming rig (Internal Power Error). Now I either have to clean up all the drivers and hope its an incompatibility there or I revert back to Windows 7. Guess depends ont he weather this weekend.

[HaemishM]

Welp, I've finally taken the plunge on my work computer. Chrome does seem a bit zippier, though the fonts also seem a little smaller/harder to read. I do dig Edge's clip/notes feature which my office may have to start using for edits on the web sites we do (too bad there's no Edge for Macs since half the computers in this place use Macs).

[Fordel]

The little Calendar app refuses to open anymore, as does the little built in onenote. They just freeze up on their loading screens then close themselves.

The windows store app was doing that, but a reboot seems to have fixed it... except it won't download anything. It will queue shit up, but won't make any progress. 

[Bunk]

So I realized that due to me setting it up once years ago, I actually have quite a bit of free space on One Drive (~130 GB). I found some photos on an old drive recently that I don't trust, so thought why not, lets back em up on One Drive. About 27 GB worth.

Started that a few days ago. Anytime I wanted to use anything requiring the net, I'd have to go in to One Drive's settings and turn off batch transfer, or I couldn't do anything. As in online games would timeout trying to log in. I'd turn that batching back on after.

Two days later, it had synched over 6GB. At that point I just turned it off.

[Ironwood]

OneDrive synching is utter shit.  I speak as a chap who sells this particular turd.

[KallDrexx]

So I realized that due to me setting it up once years ago, I actually have quite a bit of free space on One Drive (~130 GB). I found some photos on an old drive recently that I don't trust, so thought why not, lets back em up on One Drive. About 27 GB worth.

Started that a few days ago. Anytime I wanted to use anything requiring the net, I'd have to go in to One Drive's settings and turn off batch transfer, or I couldn't do anything. As in online games would timeout trying to log in. I'd turn that batching back on after.

Two days later, it had synched over 6GB. At that point I just turned it off.

Use Cloudberry for Azure.  It's free and worked great for my to move my 71gb of Amazon Glacier backups to my personal Onedrive.  Took me a while since I only have 2Mbps upload (fucking dsl) but I was able to control the bandwidth so it didn't destroy my internet while I was at home and full blast it at night when I was sleeping.

[Ironwood]

Cloudberry is, indeed, the shit for getting stuff to an fro.

Interestingly, Microsoft Azure Storage tools are also really quite good if you need to shift shit directly up to Azure.  Not so much for OneDrive.

[Fabricated]

I have like 300GB of space on OneDrive due to stuff from work but the client is complete trash compared to Dropbox which is kinda shocking.

[Ironwood]

Every user of Office365 gets a free terabyte of storage space.  I have a client that decided rather than spend money on SharePoint Storage, they'd use the OneDrive, call one user 'Server' and share all the files out from there.  It would be great except for the OneDrive client.  We get calls from them all the fucking time.

They also get confused because there's OneDrive, OneDrive for Business, Personal OneDrive on the Microsoft Live accounts on the devices and finally SharePoint.  So when they go to save, they continually fuck it up.

[Signe]

So I did this.  I did!  Minimal problems.  I took care of the wifi sharing and a TESO #209 error and VOILA! all done.  It's SO much faster which is always nice.

[Merusk]

Every user of Office365 gets a free terabyte of storage space.  I have a client that decided rather than spend money on SharePoint Storage, they'd use the OneDrive, call one user 'Server' and share all the files out from there.  It would be great except for the OneDrive client.  We get calls from them all the fucking time.

They also get confused because there's OneDrive, OneDrive for Business, Personal OneDrive on the Microsoft Live accounts on the devices and finally SharePoint.  So when they go to save, they continually fuck it up.

You're continually making me sad my boss won't move our storage to the cloud.

It would solve SO MANY problems with file sharing with clients. So. Many.

Now, if only there were a collaboration e-mail interface so that you could file e-mails from a team per job and per client.

[rattran]

Windows 10 didn't activate, the fine Microsoft Phone Drone said I had to upgrade to 8, then 10 from 7. 

I reverted to 7, tried again, and it's working fine now.

[Ironwood]

Every user of Office365 gets a free terabyte of storage space.  I have a client that decided rather than spend money on SharePoint Storage, they'd use the OneDrive, call one user 'Server' and share all the files out from there.  It would be great except for the OneDrive client.  We get calls from them all the fucking time.

They also get confused because there's OneDrive, OneDrive for Business, Personal OneDrive on the Microsoft Live accounts on the devices and finally SharePoint.  So when they go to save, they continually fuck it up.

You're continually making me sad my boss won't move our storage to the cloud.

It would solve SO MANY problems with file sharing with clients. So. Many.

Now, if only there were a collaboration e-mail interface so that you could file e-mails from a team per job and per client.

365 will do that.  Sorry.

[Yegolev]

Wife's Surface upgraded itself to 10.  First bothersome moment was not being able to save a PDF via Edge.  Luckily there was a "Open in IE" context menu item.

She only uses the Surface to RDP into her work computer.  Before anyone says anything.  She hates it like Hobbitses.

[Merusk]

I have a surface pro 3 and love it.  I had a 2 pro prior to that and it was great for taking notes in meetings but I found the screen too small for anything beyond that.  Why's she hate it?

[Yegolev]

Mostly because she's a keyboard lady, I guess.  It's sort of tablety and sort of PCish, and she just has a better browsing experience on her Kindle Fire.  She finds the pen to be a bit fiddly.  With Win10 not eliminating the schism between New and Old interfaces, it's not likely to be an overall improvement.

If I ask too many questions, she might want me to do something about it.

[Ironwood]

I like the 3, but I don't think I could use a Surface without the keyboard cover.

[Merusk]

Every user of Office365 gets a free terabyte of storage space.  I have a client that decided rather than spend money on SharePoint Storage, they'd use the OneDrive, call one user 'Server' and share all the files out from there.  It would be great except for the OneDrive client.  We get calls from them all the fucking time.

They also get confused because there's OneDrive, OneDrive for Business, Personal OneDrive on the Microsoft Live accounts on the devices and finally SharePoint.  So when they go to save, they continually fuck it up.

You're continually making me sad my boss won't move our storage to the cloud.

It would solve SO MANY problems with file sharing with clients. So. Many.

Now, if only there were a collaboration e-mail interface so that you could file e-mails from a team per job and per client.

365 will do that.  Sorry.

Direct me to more info, please. We're using Newforma which has industry-specific uses like RFI and Task management, but we don't use half of them. If I can facilitate move to a combination of 365 & Bluebeam this might be a better (and cheaper) workflow.

[Merusk]

Mostly because she's a keyboard lady, I guess.  It's sort of tablety and sort of PCish, and she just has a better browsing experience on her Kindle Fire.  She finds the pen to be a bit fiddly.  With Win10 not eliminating the schism between New and Old interfaces, it's not likely to be an overall improvement.

If I ask too many questions, she might want me to do something about it.

I like the 3, but I don't think I could use a Surface without the keyboard cover.

Yeah, 100%.

Covers are cheap, give her one as a surprise present. I like this one:
http://tinyurl.com/o65bqub

Physical keys instead of the tactile keys. The touchpad gets obnoxious so I turn that function off and use a bluetooth mouse instead.  I use it as a tablet only in meetings when I'm taking notes by hand or drawing things.

[Yegolev]

She has that keyboard in blue.  I don't like it much either because I always press a few keys while folding it back.  Then I have to bring it out again depending on which Windows shows up that minute.  This is klunky in real-world situations where a tablet-thing is used.  I don't find myself near a clear and flat surface very often, and I suspect she doesn't either, since that is exactly the situation in which someone would use a tablet.

My disclaimer is that I tend to use either a desktop or my phone for everything and don't find myself in situations where I wish I had a laptop or tablet, so I probably can't be trusted here.

[Fabricated]

I'm still waiting on my full Pro license which for some reason only ships at the end of this week. Coolio.

I keep wanting to buy a new case but can't work up the energy to bother wanting to take the guts out of my PC and move it.

[HaemishM]

Ran into the "Windows doesn't actually recreate your Start Menu > All Programs it just hunts out EXE files and shits them onto your All Apps" thing yesterday. One of my clients requires a VPN client for me to make changes to their site and SURPRISE! Windows 10 didn't see that program. Hunting for it found me the exe only to discover shit doesn't work with Windows 10. Even a reinstall and regedit doesn't make the goddamn thing work. Fuck you Cisco.

[apocrypha]

I am glad that I seem to be getting mostly trivial problems in comparison to the far more serious sound things you guys are having.

For instance, the calculator doesn't work properly for me. I have a Microsoft keyboard, with a calculator button, and when I press it sometimes it opens Calculator, sometimes it doesn't. When it does open it doesn't automatically get focus and doesn't accept keyboard inputs. It's entirely useless.

[Fabricated]

Oh if it's Cisco Anyconnect that's shit and you should just dig up the manual settings for the VPN.

[Evildrider]

Got drunk and apparently upgraded to Win 10.  No problems so far. 

[HaemishM]

Oh if it's Cisco Anyconnect that's shit and you should just dig up the manual settings for the VPN.

It isn't, it's an earlier VPN client (like VPN 5) or some shit that their host requires us to use to FTP into their web site.

Did I mention I fucking HATE VPN clients?

[Phildo]

The client of ours who had a bunch of users upgrade to Windows 10 encountered a compatibility error with Microsoft CRM.  Whoops!

[Yegolev]

So far, I'm glad I haven't upgraded.

[HaemishM]

Thing is, as upgrades go, specifically MICROSOFT OS UPGRADES, it's not really been all that damn bad. The IT guy at my company did have a situation where Internet Explorer popped up when he tried to view something instead of Edge. You may think that motherfucker is gone, but IT WILL NOT DIE.

[Yegolev]

That's fine since I don't see how to right-click-Save-As a link in Edge, nor does it seem to understand what to do with a PDF link.

As for historical MicroSoft shenanigans, sure, it's not the worst upgrade.  I think the upgrade itself would be A-OK but I just don't think I'm going to be happy with the end product.  Or end products, as it seems.  Maybe I'd better wait for the next iteration of Win Server.  Or maybe I should just fuck off to Ubuntu and emulate any Steam games that aren't native.  Choices, choices.

Regarding Phildo's observation, I think internal incompatibility at MS is the main problem here.  You have the OS designers with decades of experience, and you have those fuckers that want everything in little squares.

[Fordel]

The little Calendar app refuses to open anymore, as does the little built in onenote. They just freeze up on their loading screens then close themselves.

The windows store app was doing that, but a reboot seems to have fixed it... except it won't download anything. It will queue shit up, but won't make any progress. 

The latest update has fixed this for me as far as I can tell. So good job Microsoft!

[eldaec]

Does this automated updates thing mean windows 10 force restarts me at 10 minutes notice with absolutely no way to prevent it?

I ask because windows 8 did that to me for the first time today (and windows update is now set back to manual as a result).

[Rendakor]

Ia there a way to disable the "Please upgrade to Win 10" popups? I'm only getting them on one machine; both of my boxes are running Win7 and I'm happy to keep it that way.