Armored Warfare

[Trippy]

[ This game is not an MMO but since everybody is putting multiplayer online games even if they aren't MMOs in this section and I don't want to have to move all the crap that's accumulated in here I'm just going with the flow and putting this in here too ]

Armored Warfare
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World of Tanks clone with modern day armored vehicles developed by Obsidian Entertainment (yes that Obsidian) and published by My.com/Mail.ru (i.e. don't expect your information to be private) currently in CBT that you can buy into with their Founder Packs.

The game is supposed to have a PvE campaign but that's not in the game currently. Also the posted servers schedule appears to be just the times when the servers are guaranteed to be up. I was able to log in to the game during "off hours" last night but I was never able to actually play a match cause there weren't enough of us online to satisfy their matchmaking rules (peaked at about 35 of us in the queue at once).

[Engels]

I'm glad you are willing to be the canary in the coal mine for this one. No way am I throwing money at a founder's pack on some WoT clone untested. You are doing us all a big favor by having a peek at this.

[Nebu]

I fully expect Aba to play this and amass 20k games before it releases.   

[angry.bob]

I didn't realize this was open yet, I'll have to go check my game email.

[Abagadro]

My.com/Mail.ru (i.e. don't expect your information to be private) currently in CBT that you can buy into with their Founder Packs.

Ya, not touching that.  I feel nervous enough as it is dealing with WG and XVM.

[Pendan]

Played in the open stress test this last weekend. PvE mode was fun and low stress. Main Battle Tanks (MBT) dominate play too much. See http://armoredtalk.com/2015/09/27/quick-start-guide-to-armored-warfare-for-world-of-tank-players/ for a quick comparison of WoT to AW. Open beta start announced tomorrow.

[Trippy]

The arty mechanics look interesting. I haven't tried it myself but have watched a few streams of it. Rumors have it WoT will borrow some of those mechanics in their arty overhaul.

[Pendan]

I played 2 games of PvE and 2 games of PvP in arty. I unlocked with only a few hours left in the stress test and although wanted to try is not what I enjoy. When arty launches shells at you a voice shouts out incoming. If were shot from other side of map then you have a few seconds to respond but if was closer then can get hit right away. You don't have any of the really long shell times that exist, particularly post arty nerf (8.5?), in WoT. Generally damage is not any worse than getting hit by a real tank. Arcs don't appear to be very high so low buildings or rocks do protect you. Aim circles are tighter than WoT. When playing an arty you get red circles on map that tell you were arty on other team fired from. Supposedly the circles get smaller if fire multiple times from the same location. I tried counter battering once but have no idea how close I got to hitting. I would guess if platooned with a light or AFV you could tell them where to spot or kill the other sides arty.

[Trippy]

When I was watching if you fired 3 times without moving the 3rd shot would reveal your exact location to enemy arty.

[penfold]

Played stress test as my IRC buddies recommended it, and splashed out on Lords of War today. I played lots of WoT.

I kinda like the faster paced game, and some new dynamics (missiles, rapid fire, different arty) and the modern maps and tech. This could be a regular for a while.

[Furiously]

I like that the tanks start off being fun.

[Nebu]

I like that the tanks start off being fun.

That's a huge plus.  WoT is painful until tier 5.

[Pendan]

The -3 degrees of gun depression on one of the starting tanks can be frustrating. That is worse than any tank I know of in WoT. The french light tanks in WoT have -6 which I thought was bad before.

Head start open beta started last Thursday for those that bought a founder package. The $70 Lords of War gives stuff valued at over $100 if bought seperately. The other 2 lower costs packages only save you about $1 and $3. You can still buy a founder package up until Thursday when open beta for all starts. This is the new open beta so many are doing where it is really release because is no wipe for official release.

[disKret]

This is really fast game. Playing WoT and Warthunder tanks previousle will give you a headache (heavy tanks driving like 50km/h).
There is a few things that still need to be covered to make it really fun - like spoting/camouflage mechanic rework, sound fx, tanks feels to light (feels like driving cartoon boxes).
It can be a good game. Oh and it looks like they listen to community.

[Trippy]

Too many things about the game bug me. Probably will only play it sporadically in its current state.

[Amarr HM]

So many things better here than Wot, I'm playing on the EU server if anyone wants to platoon (BlindSide).

[Trippy]

Yes they've definitely learned from WoT mistakes. However the fundamentals in the game are messed up.

[Nebu]

So many things better here than Wot, I'm playing on the EU server if anyone wants to platoon (BlindSide).

Please list them.  I find the faster pace of this game to be a turn off.   

[Amarr HM]

I'll get out my bullet points.

• You feel like you are driving a tank, there is real sense of momentum.
• Thus you feel like you are shooting at tanks, they don't just magically stop.
• Terrain does what you would think it would do, no more shaded spots that make you feel like you are driving through dark matter. The interaction with the environment is realistic and less frustrating.
• You don't lose half your HP when falling off a two foot drop (in fact you lose none).
• Arty can't one shot you..
• No gold ammo.
• Schematics give you reasons to train other tanks other than ooh shiny.
• Matchmaker doesn't outclass you, Tier II battle everyone is Tier II and a few IIIs thrown in
• PVE - practice and grind your stock tank without the nuisance of being outclassed, grab some friends and you can grind without the nuisance of assholes
• Unlimited garage slots and barracks
• RNG is reduced.

I've only played it since yesterday this is what I've garnered.

[Pennilenko]

Is the collector's edition/package worth it?

[Nebu]

I'll get out my bullet points.

Thanks for taking the time.  That helps a lot.

[Amarr HM]

Oh and I forgot to mention RNG has less effect on your shots. You only notice it at long distance.

[penfold]

I played the stress test on recommendation of some buddies, and enjoyed it enough to fork out for the Lords of War pack and I havent been disappointed. It plays at a good pace, and feels less campy than WOT did, even the Tier 1 M113 was fun to play. Just need to learn the maps better, Ive wandered into a spot and half a dozen shots have instakilled me as i didnt realise i was parading around in full view in front of their team.

[Trippy]

Is the collector's edition/package worth it?

I don't think they've announced the store pricing for things like premium time and gold and credits yet so it's hard to know for sure but assuming their pricing will be close to Wargaming's store pricing in World of Tanks then yes the collector edition packages are worth it -- i.e. the pricing of the sum of their individual parts is more than what you are paying for the package.

For the $40 packages you are essentially paying for the premium time, gold and credits and getting the exclusive tank for free. For the $75 package you are doing the same and getting all of the tanks for free (plus more).

Here's how the math works out using World of Tanks pricing. We'll use the lowest per unit bulk pricing we can get from the World of Tanks store just to make the AW pricing as unfavorable as possible.

For gold and credits you can buy 10k gold and 10 million credits for $100 in WoT. So for 6.5k gold and 6 million credits in AW we'll assume the price is $60, and 3.25k gold and 3 million credits is $30. 360 days of premium time in WoT is $96.49 which I'll round up to $100. So 120 days of Premium in AW is $33 and 60 days of premium is $14.

So the $40 packages are worth $30 + $14 or $44 just for the gold, credits and premium time -- i.e. you are getting the exclusive tank for free. The $75 package is worth $60 + $33 or $93 just for the gold, credits and premium time. So you are getting a bunch of tanks and all the other stuff for less than you would pay for the other stuff.

I don't know the tiers of all the AW tanks you get in the package and I'm not sure the credit pricing of those premiums but if we assume each one is worth ~$10 of gold then the $75 package is worth $93 + ~$50 or $143.

[Amarr HM]

The MOWAG Taifun II looks like a badass TD, it comes with the collectors edition.

[WayAbvPar]

If you want to play this in the next month I suggest you start your download now. I have been downloading for about an hour and barely have 2GB down. I am guessing their server is getting hammered or they are throttling bandwidth something fierce. For the first 20 minutes I was getting about 150kb/s and the estimated time for completion was over a day 

[Pennilenko]

Something about this one is way more sticky for me than WoT. Don't misunderstand, I am not trash talking WoT, it is just that something about this tank game appeals to me much more. I also seem to not suck as bad in it.

[Falconeer]

I am sure this has been answered before, but are there going to be wipes, or whatever we do now is gonna be final?

[penfold]

No more wipes.

[Pennilenko]

I am Pennilenko in game, if anyone wants to hang out with a terrible player.

[WayAbvPar]

Played a dozen games or so. About to get a tier 2 tank. I don't like the way the tanks drive- I feel like I am cruising around Tatooine in Luke's landspeeder.

[angry.bob]

They're modern tanks. Modern tanks are a lot faster and more maneuverable than people think. Not landspeeder level, but they "sprint" and turn a lot better than most cars will.

[Amarr HM]

Wap I wouldn't judge it on the Tier I vehicles, but there is a lot more momentum to the way the move around.

[Nebu]

I've been watching Zeven's twitch stream to assess this game.  Zeven is one of the top WoT players and seems a decent source for comparative analyses as he played WoT at the highest levels.

[Amarr HM]

The XM800T is fun as fuck. It strikes me that the tank roles are more clearly defined.