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on: May 27, 2015, 07:04:41 AM

FIFA Officials Arrested Over Alleged $150M Bribery Scheme

I'm not sure anyone will be surprised, other than by the extent. 2 generations of officials are alleged to be involved.

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In a series of overnight busts, authorities arrested high-ranking FIFA officials over allegations of vast racketeering and corruption involving more than $150 million in bribes and kickbacks spanning two decades in soccer’s controversial governing body, law enforcement officials said.

In all, 14 people, which include a trio of sports marketing executives, have been charged by the Department of Justice for allegedly “foster[ing] a culture of corruption and greed that created an uneven playing field for the biggest sport in the world,” as FBI Director James Comey put it. Police are also in the process of executing a search warrant at a location in Miami related to the investigation.

The investigation grew out of allegations of payoffs to officials who decided where to hold the next two World Cups, the biggest international event in sports, that landed the games in Russia for 2018 and Qatar in 2022, according to three senior U.S. law enforcement officials. The U.S. was runner-up to Qatar’s win.
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Reply #1 on: May 27, 2015, 07:05:24 AM

And yet we're still letting Qatar happen. On the backs of human slavery dying every day.

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Reply #2 on: May 27, 2015, 08:08:14 AM

The fact that Blatter was included makes it useless.

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Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 08:22:37 AM

The fact that Blatter was included makes it useless.

You mean wasn't.  No, this is standard for racekteering arrests. You get the little fish so they flip for a lighter sentencing deal and turn-in the big fish. I understand these guys were arrested after another FIFA official who was arrested in 2011 flipped on them. 

You saw the same thing with ENRON and Ken Lay. (Though that gave him enough time to set up the faking of his death and the vacating of his sentence & asset seizure after his death  Tinfoil Hat)

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Reply #4 on: May 27, 2015, 08:25:09 AM

Well if you want to go full Tinfoil Hat maybe this is Blatter removing any last resistance to his reign.

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Reply #5 on: May 27, 2015, 08:32:01 AM

Please note any Tinfoil Hat comments are meant as sarcastically and improbably as possible. I believe in conspiracy theories less than I believe in Bigfoot.

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Reply #6 on: May 27, 2015, 09:52:30 AM

Well if you want to go full Tinfoil Hat maybe this is Blatter removing any last resistance to his reign.

That was actually one of my thoughts. Maybe he's getting rid of voters that won't support him.

The fact that Qatar has happened at all was amazing - that it continues ought to be expected. The minute Blatter gives even an inch of Qatar, he might as well confess to taking kickbacks to make that happen and fucking little boys. Because I'm sure both things happen and I wouldn't lay odds on one being more likely than the other.

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Reply #7 on: May 27, 2015, 11:45:22 AM

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Informant in FIFA case reportedly housed his cats in a $6,000-per-month Trump Tower condo. sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2…

 

And then a gazillion tweets about that guy, with references to James Bond flims, Game of Thrones, Santa, etc.

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    According to an extensive report compiled by the New York Daily News in November, Blazer was flipped by the FBI and IRS to act as a mole as they built their case against the world's governing body for soccer. Blazer recorded conversations with the top officials as far back as the 2012 Olympics in London.

    Blazer's story is an interesting one. He spent millions of dollars during his tenure with FIFA and CONCACAF and lived an incredibly lavish lifestyle, including apartments in New York, Miami and the Bahamas. He had two apartments in Trump Tower — one, an $18,000-per-month unit he lived in and then a connecting $6,000 condo used mostly to house his "unruly cats."

http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2015-05-27/fifa-arrests-chuck-blazer-mole-fbi-irs-sepp-blatter-us-justice-department?eadid=SOC/Twi/SNMain
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Reply #8 on: May 27, 2015, 11:48:54 AM

It looks as though the FBI case is based on events that aren't related to the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bids. However the Swiss have announced their own criminal proceedings (FIFA is headquartered in Zürich) about bribes and illegalities during those processes.

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Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 12:16:42 PM

I mean honestly if we as a society let the Qatar bid stand while they knowingly murder people to make a sporting event happen, we should just fucking quit trying to be a society.


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Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 02:01:28 PM

I hope they nail the lot of them to the wall.

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Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 02:33:40 PM

I could give a shit about soccer but you're welcome, filthy euros.

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Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 02:38:06 PM

I could give a shit about soccer but you're welcome, filthy euros.

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Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 03:22:28 PM

as well as a totally corrupt organising organisation  why so serious?



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Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 03:25:59 PM

Poorly executed but I like the picture they picked:


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Reply #15 on: May 27, 2015, 06:14:53 PM

The fact that Blatter was included makes it useless.

You mean wasn't.  No, this is standard for racekteering arrests. You get the little fish so they flip for a lighter sentencing deal and turn-in the big fish. I understand these guys were arrested after another FIFA official who was arrested in 2011 flipped on them. 

You saw the same thing with ENRON and Ken Lay. (Though that gave him enough time to set up the faking of his death and the vacating of his sentence & asset seizure after his death  Tinfoil Hat)

Yeah, I don't think we've seen an end to this.  I'm willing to bet some, if not all, of them are going to flip on whoever they can to get the best deal possible for themselves.  This could potentially include Blatter.  God willing! Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #16 on: May 28, 2015, 01:54:43 AM

Pretty much.  Not 100% sure how much the US will push on this, but this could lead to further prosecution.  Going after all the secondary guys, getting some of them to flip, gives the prosecution a rock solid case to hit the guys at the top.  Going straight for the top guy is much more risky.

The US doing this also opens the doors for others.  Nobody wanted to fire the first shot.  Now that the US has, and is tanking the media attention/agro, others can move in.  We are hitting them for stuff that happened before the Russia/Qatar cluster fuck, which is smart since it avoids direct conflict of interest (since we were bidding also).  But now the Swiss are moving in to investigate just that.  I wouldn’t be surprised if others now also open up their own investigations.  They were doing this shit all over the place, and I'm sure it has to be illegal activity in several other countries also.

And in an unsurprising development, Putin is not amused.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/05/28/why-the-fifa-arrests-made-russia-so-angry-with-the-u-s/

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Reply #17 on: May 28, 2015, 04:29:19 AM

Also as a further demand of the US, everyone must now call it soccer.

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Reply #18 on: May 28, 2015, 05:19:51 AM

Cold War all over again.

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Reply #19 on: May 29, 2015, 10:20:50 PM

To no-ones surprises, Blatter was re-elected. However there was some surprise that he failed to get the 2/3rds majority needed to go through on the first round and had to go through to the seconds round where he needed a simple Majority.

And more indictments have been signaled

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Richard Weber, the chief of the I.R.S. unit in charge of criminal investigations, said he was “fairly confident” that there would be another round of indictments in the FIFA case. His comments came days after 14 people were charged in bribery and kickback schemes that corrupted the highest echelons of soccer’s governing body.

The American government’s aggressive move shocked the soccer world and led to questions about whether the United States had set out on a mission to topple the leadership of FIFA, which has long been troubled by allegations of corruption. But officials at the Justice Department, the F.B.I. and the I.R.S. said the impetus was criminal activity and organized crime that just happened to occur in the soccer world.

“I don’t think there was ever a decision or a declaration that we would go after soccer,” Mr. Weber said. “We were going after corruption.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/30/sports/soccer/more-indictments-expected-in-fifa-case-irs-official-says.html


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Reply #20 on: June 02, 2015, 10:10:29 AM

And Sepp quits!


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Reply #21 on: June 02, 2015, 10:15:21 AM

And Sepp quits!

Which is great and all, but makes no sense since he just got re-elected. Unless, of course, that noose was getting a tad bit tighter.

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Reply #22 on: June 02, 2015, 10:24:21 AM

The sponsors must have issued an ultimatum to FIFA because it was making them look bad by association. Thats McDonnels, Budweiser, Visa, Adidas, Hyundai and Kia motors...

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Reply #23 on: June 02, 2015, 10:31:19 AM

The sponsors must have issued an ultimatum to FIFA because it was making them look bad by association. Thats McDonnels, Budweiser, Visa, Adidas, Hyundai and Kia motors...

John Oliver is going to have to chug a Bud Light Lime.

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Reply #24 on: June 02, 2015, 10:38:00 AM

But seriously, it's soccer now.

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Reply #25 on: June 02, 2015, 10:47:08 AM

Next step for Sepp Blatter? Faking his own death and joining Ken Lay in the south pacific to bang hot azns.

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Reply #26 on: June 02, 2015, 11:17:42 AM

...the fuck?

I mean, it's good he's gone and all but either he was getting serious heat from the sponsors or the fix is in. Otherwise, why wait until 4 days after the election? Why not just withdraw from the election, unless the guy you'd have lost to had his own gravy train to reward and you weren't on that train? I expect the successor to be a crony of his.

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Reply #27 on: June 02, 2015, 11:24:08 AM

Fifa will get fixed just like the banks were. They'll do "reforms" in Qatar and the Russia situation will be forgotten by the news cycle until it's too late. 



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Reply #28 on: June 02, 2015, 11:30:36 AM

Fifa will get fixed just like the banks were. They'll do "reforms" in Qatar and the Russia situation will be forgotten by the news cycle until it's too late. 

I hope not. If they follow they money they'll prove how Qatar bought and paid for the thing, and they'll redo the votes without them in the mix. It's far enough out where they can eat the expense for their lies.

I don't case as much about Russia, unless they follow through on their prison labor plan. In which case fuck them.

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Reply #29 on: June 02, 2015, 11:45:53 AM

...the fuck?

I mean, it's good he's gone and all but either he was getting serious heat from the sponsors or the fix is in. Otherwise, why wait until 4 days after the election? Why not just withdraw from the election, unless the guy you'd have lost to had his own gravy train to reward and you weren't on that train? I expect the successor to be a crony of his.

I imagine it took some time for the reality that his world is crumbling to sink in for a guy who think's he's that untouchable .

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Reply #30 on: June 02, 2015, 11:51:37 AM

Fifa will get fixed just like the banks were. They'll do "reforms" in Qatar and the Russia situation will be forgotten by the news cycle until it's too late.  

I hope not. If they follow they money they'll prove how Qatar bought and paid for the thing, and they'll redo the votes without them in the mix. It's far enough out where they can eat the expense for their lies.

I don't case as much about Russia, unless they follow through on their prison labor plan. In which case fuck them.

I think it depends on how many people Qatar has bribed. I'm sure the FBI could unravel the whole thing, but will they be allowed to? How badly does the US want 2022?

I have actually no idea, I'm just pessimistic enough to not believe that the transnational power structures involved would go so far in destroying what is ultimately a game rigged in their favor. Would be great if it happened though.
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Reply #31 on: June 02, 2015, 12:06:16 PM

How badly does the US want 2022?

This is one of the few times where it honestly isn't about that in my mind. I think they hit a nerve with the US. We understand small corruption to a point, but if we find out about big stuff our society will not tolerate it and will hammer you to the wall.

I think the US got tweaked that it was obvious Qatar paid for it, and they've taking off the gloves no matter who gets it. We just don't want it to be THOSE assholes and we're making it personal.

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Reply #32 on: June 02, 2015, 12:09:13 PM

...the fuck?

I mean, it's good he's gone and all but either he was getting serious heat from the sponsors or the fix is in. Otherwise, why wait until 4 days after the election? Why not just withdraw from the election, unless the guy you'd have lost to had his own gravy train to reward and you weren't on that train? I expect the successor to be a crony of his.

My mindset is that he had to wait to win the election and then he can pick his successor with more influence. That is the only reason I can think of in terms of waiting till after the election win.

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Reply #33 on: June 02, 2015, 12:12:07 PM

Or he needs just a little more time because the Enron-class shredders were on back order.  why so serious?

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Reply #34 on: June 02, 2015, 12:21:05 PM

I can't even imagine the mountains of dirt they must have on him to force him out when he has refused for so long. Caught fucking a dead woman, a live boy, or an animal.

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