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Reply #140 on: October 10, 2015, 12:17:32 PM

What is the message in this series? Humans suck, go team Zombie?

I've always been a team zombie guy. Watching everyone die is the reason I watch anything with zombies in it at all.

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Reply #141 on: October 10, 2015, 01:33:05 PM

Seconded. Although I do root for Rick, Michonne, and Daryl. Mostly for a badass zombie kill squad.

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Reply #142 on: April 11, 2016, 12:09:22 PM

This is back. It's still crap.

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Reply #143 on: April 11, 2016, 12:12:03 PM

There are no likable characters.  I don't see any of these people being a fan fave.  The show could be improved 100% by just dumping the kids.  Although at least Nick has grown on me, or maybe it's just he's the least shitty of the teenagers.
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Reply #144 on: April 11, 2016, 12:30:02 PM

I actually think Nick is the only likable character. We don't know enough about Strand to know if he's likable or not. The rest are mostly one note and hotty daughter is an idiot for talking on the radio. The boat being the staging vehicle for this season seems like it could be an interesting departure but it seems like we are going to skip the first 2 seasons of Walking Dead where the zombies are the source of conflict and just jump straight into "other survivors are the real horrors" portion of the story trope. If so, I look forward to* "The Admiral" and his flotilla of murderous assholes.

* I really don't look forward to this at all.

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Reply #145 on: April 11, 2016, 03:19:48 PM

I like Nick and Strand. The daughter has been hit and miss. I'm fine with the rest being zombie chow sooner rather than later.

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Reply #146 on: April 11, 2016, 10:33:27 PM

Anyone that uses Bowie to lure people into a trap needs to die in a boat fire.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #147 on: April 11, 2016, 11:04:12 PM

Strand's only likeable in comparison to the rest of the characters, he's really a colossal dick. And Nick seems to have transformed from pathetic junkie to fearless heroic overnight with no real development process between the two tropes.

Just like TWD, this shows writers seem to have a very low opinion of humans. They're either huge morons or they're scheming psychopaths.

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Reply #148 on: April 12, 2016, 03:14:35 AM

Just like TWD, this shows writers seem to have a very low opinion of humans. They're either huge morons or they're scheming psychopaths.
So spot on then?

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Reply #149 on: April 12, 2016, 06:39:40 AM

Only thing keeping me watching is the hope that one of the teenagers gets horribly killed.

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Reply #150 on: April 12, 2016, 08:10:18 AM

Just like TWD, this shows writers seem to have a very low opinion of humans. They're either huge morons or they're scheming psychopaths.
So spot on then?

That seems to be pretty accurate representation of humans. People can barely be civil to each other when laws and social restraints are in place. Remove those and you get to see the truth and that is people in general are utterly terrible to those not close to them.
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Reply #151 on: April 12, 2016, 08:16:33 AM

While that is certainly true, it gets to be a really, really boring fucking basis for a show. Especially when the writers take great pains to make you give a shit about certain characters and then punk you with "SUPRISE COCKFAGS! PEOPLE ARE SHIT!"

If "People are shit" is going to be the main story device for this season, I'm going to be checking out sooner rather than later.

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Reply #152 on: April 12, 2016, 08:45:50 AM

it seems like we are going to skip the first 2 seasons of Walking Dead where the zombies are the source of conflict and just jump straight into "other survivors are the real horrors"

Well, it is L.A., where the residents are the horrors before any apocolypse why so serious? For real though, keep in mind it has been a few weeks so the main cast is behind in the game compared to others since they were in an isolated camp.


Overall, I'm okay with FTWD so far even if they did do a shit job of showing the collapse of society when they skipped a few weeks in S1. I like Strand and Nick. Alisha is hot enough I don't care, and her acting dumb makes sense at this point since the crew in general is still going through growing pains of adapting to the new world. Madison and Travis aren't total shit. Daniel should get more interesting as they look into his backstory, which I'm guessing we'll see soon as he kicks some ass on the seas. Ofelia seems forgettable at this point, which is okay since not all can be in the foreground just yet. The one character who is just shitty is Chris, before and after his mom died. He has been nothing but a whiny bitch making nothing but bad and unreasonable decisions.
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Reply #153 on: April 24, 2016, 07:38:48 PM

You DO NOT cut the person that seems to have the biggest clue about what the fuck is going on loose.

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Reply #154 on: April 24, 2016, 07:56:27 PM

I get the aversion to strangers, but I think they're going a bit overboard on "trust absolutely no one ever" here...
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Reply #155 on: April 25, 2016, 06:14:24 PM

Their characterizations are all over the map, sometimes from episode to episode. They go from knowing what they should be doing about zombies to doing absolutely brain dead stupid shit like Travis's kid did this last episode and just wandering off on his own. The situations in this season have improved slightly but I just want to stab at least half the cast at least once every episode.

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Reply #156 on: April 25, 2016, 06:42:46 PM

This needs to be the Strand, Nick and Alex show. With maybe Alicia in tow because I loved her in the 100.

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Reply #157 on: April 26, 2016, 01:07:29 AM

Wife & I abandoned this show after episode 1. Too much other stuff on that's so, so much better, and isn't just predicated on 'people are horrible and stupid'.

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Reply #158 on: June 07, 2016, 07:57:26 AM

Welp, I tried. I really really tried. I managed to make it all the way through the season until the finale. 15 minutes in, I just had had enough. We get what looks like a compressed version of the Farm with some of the exact same events but for even more batshit stupid reasons, along with Dougray Scott in a very strange minor role. I don't understand this show. Every single opportunity they had to do interesting things with either the concept or the characters they utterly fucked up. The characters who are actually likable either get killed or are shit on by the rest of the cast, and the characters who should be relatable who are played by good actors (specifically Travis and Madison) are just unlikable dickbags.

Fuck this show.

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Reply #159 on: June 07, 2016, 06:11:39 PM

I don't understand this show. Every single opportunity they had to do interesting things with either the concept or the characters they utterly fucked up.
Agreed.  There were a few places where it had real potential to be something and ended up being nothing or falling victim to "people gonna be dumb for plot reasons" logic.  I really was scratching my head at the last episode.  Not sure I'm going to bother with it anymore.
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Reply #160 on: June 07, 2016, 06:22:33 PM

I don't care about any of the cast anymore.  I have no idea where they are trying to even go with the show here.  At least there always seemed to be something more on The Walking Dead besides pure survival.
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Reply #161 on: June 08, 2016, 11:04:33 AM

The amazing thing to me: A lot of us would hold on just because it takes place in the WD universe and we'd want to be completionists ... but they go well out of their way to say this show is intended to never have any impact on the flagship show.

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