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on: March 27, 2015, 03:50:15 PM

The Walking Dead spinoff has a name - Fear the Walking Dead. 

https://twitter.com/RobertKirkman/status/581526796958584832

As this one theoretically focuses on California and the early days of the Zombie Plague (at the start) and has no tie to the comics (that we know of), I am really curious about it.  They've already signed for 2 seasons...

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Reply #1 on: March 27, 2015, 03:52:09 PM

That's a terrible name.

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Reply #2 on: March 27, 2015, 04:04:30 PM

Yeah - I've seen three polls already, and it is coming up between 75 and 80% 'bad name' on those polls.

I'd have gone with one of the other names they've used for Walkers in the past - I mean, how can you pass on an LA set show called Skinjobs?

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Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 05:29:56 PM

There are literally something like 15 Walking Dead based projects in development right now. Set course for oversaturation, warp factor a billion.

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Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 05:33:06 PM

I hope one is called Son of the Walking Dead, starring Carl.  why so serious?

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Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 05:58:24 PM

There are literally something like 15 Walking Dead based projects in development right now. Set course for oversaturation, warp factor a billion.
The comic, the first series, talking dead, the spin-off and....?  Are you counting video games?

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Reply #6 on: March 27, 2015, 07:30:51 PM

They should've gone full CSI.

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Reply #7 on: March 27, 2015, 09:15:44 PM

There are literally something like 15 Walking Dead based projects in development right now. Set course for oversaturation, warp factor a billion.
The comic, the first series, talking dead, the spin-off and....?  Are you counting video games?

I don't know what they all are, it was just a comment from Kirkman or someone related. I assume at least some are video games.

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Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 09:42:04 PM

They should've gone full CSI.

The Walking Dead: Los Angeles

That would have been a better title.

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Reply #9 on: March 28, 2015, 09:59:41 AM

That's a terrible name.

Lee Ving is doing all of the music; it was in his contract rider. Early reports of the title leave out a very important colon.

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Reply #10 on: March 29, 2015, 09:07:36 AM

They should've gone full CSI.

The Walking Dead: Los Angeles

That would have been a better title.

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Reply #11 on: March 29, 2015, 01:55:49 PM


Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #12 on: August 24, 2015, 02:30:00 PM

Thoughts on the premiere? 

I thought it was ok, but a bit slow.  Not a game changer.  A lot of inconsistencies on how much knowledge is out there.  My biggest complaints (one current, one probable future):


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Reply #13 on: August 24, 2015, 02:37:43 PM

Just from the first episode I can tell this is going to be slow as shit when it comes to moving along.  Also all the teen kids need to be dropped in a pit of zombies by the Governor.
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Reply #14 on: August 24, 2015, 04:31:37 PM

I warned some others that this looks like it's going to be a real slow burn, with the first season ending around the moment the main cast realizes that no one is coming and it's really all gone to shit.


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Reply #15 on: August 24, 2015, 05:30:14 PM

I don't mind a slow burn. If things escalate too quickly then we rapidly get to a show that isn't all that different from the main series. I also expect some inconsistencies and some handwaving of how much the government knows, who has been told, how quickly the infection is spreading (remember it doesn't actually make you sick or kill you it just brings you back after you die) and whether or not the government has been keeping it quiet as much as possible.
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Reply #16 on: August 24, 2015, 05:35:11 PM

Yeah, it's supposed to be a slow burn.  If we went right into full zombie apocalypse mode it would just be the other show.

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Reply #17 on: August 24, 2015, 10:02:35 PM

The slow burn is necessary. They don't understand what the fuck is going on and shit's being kept from the general public. I don't expect all hell to break loose until halfway through the season.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #18 on: August 25, 2015, 09:41:35 AM

Nobody was expecting to see a herd in episode one. However, some of us were hoping for a faster and more interesting start. I got a bit tired of the obvious moments where characters were put in positions (often by their own choice) that would likely get them killed in the flagship. For example, being strapped down next to someone very, very ill?

Also, if that many kids are missing class because of things people have experienced or seen due to the outbreak, I'd think it impossible not to see more news coverage - the government can't stop every news and blog entity out there.

I knew that showing a world in transition to the world of WD would be hard... and it is showing. I didn't hate it, but I hoped for better.

Anyone else wonder for a half second if the blond at the start might have been the same actress as the girl at the start of the flagship pilot? The ages do not work out, but I did wonder for a second before I realized that...

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Reply #19 on: August 25, 2015, 11:38:55 AM

So I didn't like this very much. None of the characters were the least bit interesting to me except for the black teen drug dealer and well...

The music REALLY got on my tits. It was SO over the top for the scenes it was being played in. It's like they wanted to make you feel dread but didn't really know how to do that since almost everyone watching is already totally used to Walking Dead zombies. Then things like Kim Dixon's character coming up to the principal who doesn't hear here while the music is fucking BOOMING with a hammer blow of "OMG HE'S TOTALLY A ZOMBIE OH WAIT NO HE'S TOTALLY NOT FOOLED YOU!!!!" Way too many moments of that.

Both of the main characters were too confident and assured. They walked like cops - not sure how else to say that. They didn't walk like teachers or guidance counselors or whatever. They just felt too tough/badass for what the show is trying to tell us they are. The traffic scene was odd. One of the reviewers I read said that seeing choppers and traffic jams like that is typical of an LA day, so the characters reactions seemed too quick to panic and bolt rather than being pissed off and annoyed.

The "send the school home because of a shooting on the Internet" thing also seemed really odd. The whole thing felt like it wanted to tell specific story beats but didn't really know how to pull them off. It also spent way too long before we get into the meat of the people-eating, which would be fine if I liked the characters but I really don't give a shit about them.

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Reply #20 on: August 25, 2015, 11:55:24 AM

I'm fine with it being slow to a point, and they passed that point by a fair bit. Right now, outside of the 5mins with the church and the end part with drug-dealer zombie dude, it felt more like a mediocre family drama and less of something related to the Walking Dead. That is too slow.

That said, I'm fine with giving it more time due to this being an AMC show and in the Walking Dead-verse.

Anyone else wonder for a half second if the blond at the start might have been the same actress as the girl at the start of the flagship pilot? The ages do not work out, but I did wonder for a second before I realized that...

I never thought for a second that it was the same actress and I still don't see how anyone could think that. In a weird way, I actually felt more reminded of Shaun of the Dead when they drove by the park twice
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Reply #21 on: August 25, 2015, 12:14:22 PM

the black teen drug dealer

His name was Cal, you racist. why so serious?

I actually liked Johnny Derp as Nick.  He at least made the scenes interesting with his half-Jack-Sparrow/half-Charlie-Chaplin routine.

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Reply #22 on: August 25, 2015, 03:33:01 PM

....The whole thing felt like it wanted to tell specific story beats but didn't really know how to pull them off...
That nails it.  That was the core problem.  They failed to execute the story they were delivering like most B movies do...

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Reply #23 on: August 25, 2015, 03:35:38 PM

the black teen drug dealer

His name was Cal, you racist. why so serious?

I actually liked Johnny Derp as Nick.  He at least made the scenes interesting with his half-Jack-Sparrow/half-Charlie-Chaplin routine.

My wife asked me if the teen Lizard King was going to bite it at the beginning when he was wandering around the church.  why so serious?

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Reply #24 on: August 25, 2015, 03:38:05 PM

Wtf was up with that blouse he was wearing.. bugged the fuck out of me.   awesome, for real
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Reply #25 on: August 25, 2015, 03:39:59 PM

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I never thought for a second that it was the same actress and I still don't see how anyone could think that. In a weird way, I actually felt more reminded of Shaun of the Dead when they drove by the park twice
WD episode 1 starts with a little blond girl the characters are not supposed to expect to be a zombie that is revealed to be one.  Flash forward 5 years - a blond teenager in a similar role.  

The little girl's IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2900452/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t35  She is 15 now.  Just a couple years too young for the role...

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Reply #26 on: August 25, 2015, 04:01:17 PM

I actually liked Johnny Derp as Nick.  He at least made the scenes interesting with his half-Jack-Sparrow/half-Charlie-Chaplin routine.

Yeah and the bit where he had to pull his trousers up as he was running away because they were fashionably half way down his arse was hilarious.

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Reply #27 on: August 25, 2015, 08:51:47 PM

Wife loved it.  Enough for me.

Refuses to get into WD.  I really enjoyed it.  Yeah, it didn't have cannibalism and slashing of throats at beginning, but great setting of stage.

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Reply #28 on: August 31, 2015, 12:12:07 AM

Episode 2 was a little better paced.I liked the starting cast of the flagship better, but I think I might like these characters more.  They're  not being quite as slow to figure things out.  I do like a few of the acting performances, but most of them seem very flat so far.

The fall of society seems to be coming down to a lot of people keeping their mouth shut, either for fear of being thought crazy or wanting to be the first to get at resources and get out of dodge.

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Reply #29 on: August 31, 2015, 08:20:55 AM

For those keeping score at home, after two episodes, the only three speaking role characters to bite it are all black men.  Somewhere, the ghost of T-Dog shed a single tear  why so serious?

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Reply #30 on: August 31, 2015, 09:09:50 AM

There is a Latina with a bite that is just as dead as one of those three men...

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Reply #31 on: August 31, 2015, 02:07:56 PM

You also missed the zombie goth chick that got it in the eye at the end of 2.

This was a better episode than the first but it still seems to be trying to make hay with suspense that it just has not earned. Trying to be topical by having a riot when cops shoot down a walker felt forced. The main characters deciding after 1 zombie encounter and 1 video on Youtube that they need to run for the fucking hills also seems forced. Also, dumb teenager chick is dumb.

Still, it was a lot better than the first and maybe it isn't going to be such a slow burn after all. It's obvious the cops know something more than is being reported. I just found out the first season is only 6 episodes, so I guess they will blow some shit up real soon now.

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Reply #32 on: August 31, 2015, 02:32:21 PM

#1 thing I do not get: Why is everyone 'out sick'? 

Were they all bitten?  If so, how?  Why wasn't there news coverage of all the people going to the hospital with bites?

Fleeing civilization?  OK, but wouldn't it be obvious if a massive number of people were fleeing town?

Are people getting sick without being bitten?  This would be a new wrinkle that wouldn't make much sense. 

This is a big puzzle piece missing for me.  When I saw the previews, I thought we'd see coverage of a few zombies popping up here and there with people having WtF responses - followed by a mass hysteria riot where escalating violence starts to get people killed, turned ... and then the number of undead start to reach enough of a volume that it is hard to be on the streets without being killed.  However, what we're seeing is a police force that knows to do head shots, a small volume of walkers and a mysterious lack of information that does nothing but put people in jeopardy.  It seems like a small amount of effort combined with the information in hand might be enough to contain this thing... of course, that may be the direction they may go.  In LA, perhaps there is a military force that retains control for the first few seasons and people are living in a dictatorship... few zombies, but a lot of evil people.

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Reply #33 on: August 31, 2015, 02:56:28 PM

They keep talking about this mysterious flu, but yeah, for a show that was supposed to show us how the outbreak started, it's doing a really piss poor job of explaining anything. We're about as confused as the people on the show.

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Reply #34 on: August 31, 2015, 03:31:42 PM

... except Pimple face (Tobias?).  I liked that there was at least one character that seemed to have a clue how to handle the new world... until they ruined it in that hallway scene.  I was so frustrated to see him revert to an idiot that seemed to be clueless for no reason other than to give someone else a chance to play 'hero'. (Although he does get props for realizing he is better off far and away from the crazy guidance counselor).

The more I think about it, the more I think they're trying to string together a bunch of scenes that describe the fall of society rather than having a great story that takes place during the fall.  They have characters change their personality to fit the needs of a scene they want to show rather than have the character drive how the scene unfolds.  They don't ask questions that anyone would ask because it would give the characters information the show runners do not want them to have (Alicia: My God, Matt, what happened to your shoulder?  A bite you say?  Who bit you?  They appeared to be very sick and now you're very sick?  That seems related, doesn't it...  I should probably listen to my Mom and Dad when they scream for me to get away from you.)

Travis (pop) is running around like crazy, but wouldn't he have been better off keeping everyone together?  Madison (mom) seems like she should have brought the kids with her to the school.  The son from the prior marriage (Chris?) seems to be off the charts tool just to force people to run to him and put them in downtown LA during the riots.

Right now, I'm really only rooting for one character: Nick.  I'm luke warm at best for everyone else after the second episode, although I was higher on Alicia after the pilot, too... until she turned from prospective Cal student to moron.
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