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Tannhauser
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That wasn't a bad trailer. I might give the show a shot if they don't put it up against shows I currently watch.
Yeah. I read today it's going directly against Gotham.  I wonder if WB/DC is pissed at CBS for doing this. Yes I know about DVR, but CBS and the CW want ratings still.
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Evildrider
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As much as all this is DC stuff, networks are still out for themselves. Which is why people asking for crossovers between like Arrow and Supergirl aren't going to see it happen.
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Ironwood
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Gotham is awful.
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schild
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I'm glad they're skipping past the childhood/high school years that dragged on in Smallville. Also, that wasn't a trailer, that was like 4 episodes.
But black, attractive Jimmy Olsen?
wut
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Fordel
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Sure, why not?
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HaemishM
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Wasn't that Eggs from season 2 of True Blood?
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schild
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Wasn't that Eggs from season 2 of True Blood?
Sorry, I don't wash southern trash larping.
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Wasn't that Eggs from season 2 of True Blood?
Sorry, I don't wash southern trash larping. I think you mean super hot naked vampires and were-folk.
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Nevermore
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The trailer for this reminded me of "My Super Ex Girlfriend".
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Over and out.
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schild
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Wasn't that Eggs from season 2 of True Blood?
Sorry, I don't wash southern trash larping. I think you mean super hot naked vampires and were-folk. No, I meant what I said.
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HaemishM
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Trust me, it can be both.
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tazelbain
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That trailer was a bucket of cold water. "I could save the day but *feelings*"
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jgsugden
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I hated the casting choice, I dislike that they are not overtly linking it to the Arrowverse, and the preview disappointed me - primarily by looking like there is no way they'll be able to make credible threats for her on a regular budget. However, I'm overlooking all of that and giving it a chance because of who is behind the series... even if not tied to the Arrowverse, the teams behind both are the same and they have done better than I expected over and over...
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MediumHigh
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Hmm Arrow was easier because of the lack of pressure for Arrow to conform to anything specific. They are CLEARLY under pressure to form fit super girl into something I'm not willing to watch going by the check list in the trailer.
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Merusk
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What you mean a twenty-something female lead angst/romance workplace dramedy? Yeah, not interested.
It's Ally McKent. Wonder when she'll have an existential crisis about being/ not being/ wanting to be pregnant. Oh the Humanity!
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Margalis
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My favorite game is trying to guess individual user's responses to stuff like this on these forums.
Guess mine!
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Evildrider
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The pilot has been "leaked" online.
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Slyfeind
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The pilot has been "leaked" online.
I watched about half of it before I had to head to work. I'm liking it so far. The vibe I get is Supergirl gets magically stuck in an episode of Ally McBeal, gets bored with it, so she becomes Supergirl and changes the series into a superhero show.
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Slyfeind
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Finished watching it. If you've seen the trailer, you've pretty much seen the episode. Also if you didn't like the trailer, you'll probably fucking hate this series. Personally, I freaking loved it.
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Evildrider
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Watching the first episode and I get more a Superman feel out of it than I did all of Man of Steel.
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Merusk
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I gave it a go and it wasn't as Ally McFeel angsty as I expected but it was definitely there. Something about having women leads means things have to be overwrought, I guess. Thanks, Hollywood.
Overall it wasn't bad, but I don't see myself seeing it out but it wasn't awful. Maybe it'll get better as things progress like Gotham has.
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jgsugden
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That episode was far too rushed. It felt like a 2 part pilot that was crammed into one episode. I'm betting episodes 2 to 5 give us a more representative sample.
I don't dislike the lead, but she is not giving me my concept of the character. That doesn't mean the show eon't be good, but it does mean it won't hit the same notes that Arrow, Flash and Constantine did where I felt a version of the character came off the page. Instead, this feels like yet another reboot of a character... which I guess is actually more DC than giving us a version we know.
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Lakov_Sanite
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It was just ok for me but two things really bothered me.
1. I know why they had to tiptoe around mentioning superman bt come the fuck on, he's your cousin and you just refer to him as 'him' or 'that guy' or whatever? The whole dialogues about superman seemed awkward.
2. The plan is the convince bad guy you aren't a threat so he can swing his axe at you and you grab it? Pretty sure that was his original plan no matter what. Also this axe can hurt kryptonians on earth so you're going to blow it up, directly in your face? What? The axe was even closer to her than it was to the bad guy yet he's full of shrapnel?
I'm sure the typical complaints about this show will be the tone or whatever but man the writing seems so lazy overall.
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jgsugden
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I agree - Superman is either a part of the world or he isn't. As he is, they needed to be given permission to reference him and his entire rogues gallery freely. I can see why they'd avoid casting him now, but if they do not start calling him Superman soon it'll be the worst joke around.
One concern I have for a show like this is maintaining consistent credible threats. She is so powerful that you should end up with a 'End of Man of Steel' problem during every fight (massive damage) - or the fight should be a pushover.
It'll be interesting if the show flops a bit and CBS lets it go - could the CW grab it with a reduced budget and add it to the DC multiverse they're creating over there?
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HaemishM
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I doubt the CW would buy the option for the show if it fails.
I liked it. There was definitely more than enough Ally McFeel but not as bad as I thought, and the action was decent. The set piece writing and filming and conception could be better but that's something I'll give them time on. After all, it's a pilot so they can't be sure what they can film and what they can't yet. If it doesn't improve by episode 4, it might be time to drop it.
I noticed a few Easter Eggs in this one. Of course, Daddy Danvers being Dean Cain was the obvious one, but when the DEO showed some of the escaped prisoners, I recognized Superman villain the Parasite. Probably others were Supes villains that I didn't recognize but that one was pretty clear.
Dancing around calling him Superman does need to stop as its totally unnecessary - or at least it should be. I hope it's not more of the WB movie dickheads exerting their epeen.
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Lakov_Sanite
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I doubt the CW would buy the option for the show if it fails.
I liked it. There was definitely more than enough Ally McFeel but not as bad as I thought, and the action was decent. The set piece writing and filming and conception could be better but that's something I'll give them time on. After all, it's a pilot so they can't be sure what they can film and what they can't yet. If it doesn't improve by episode 4, it might be time to drop it.
I noticed a few Easter Eggs in this one. Of course, Daddy Danvers being Dean Cain was the obvious one, but when the DEO showed some of the escaped prisoners, I recognized Superman villain the Parasite. Probably others were Supes villains that I didn't recognize but that one was pretty clear.
Dancing around calling him Superman does need to stop as its totally unnecessary - or at least it should be. I hope it's not more of the WB movie dickheads exerting their epeen.
Mother Danvers is the original supergirl as well.
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HaemishM
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I saw Helen Slater's name in the credits but didn't recognize her.
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Ironwood
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On the one hand, I really hope this gets better. Other hand, it's DC, so not much hope.
Gripping hand, She's hot as fuck.
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jgsugden
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On the one hand, I really hope this gets better. Other hand, it's DC, so not much hope.
Gripping hand, She's hot as fuck. Ha ha! You're just like Jeb Bush!
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Ironwood
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Slyfeind
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Episode 2 seems like... producers: "Can we say Superman one more time? What? We can?! We have full use of the name? YAY!!!" Characters in Supergirl: "Supermansuperman, Supermansupermansuperman!" "Sueprmansuperman?" "Supermansupermansuperman!" Or maybe that's what it sounded like to me. Anyway.
Regarding the mentions of Powergirl; did anyone notice in episode 1 that this government agency now has a sample of Kara's blood? JUSSAYIN!
Anyway, episode 2 had some interesting bits, and I'm loving the characterizations, but I'm getting a bit tired of the normal people on computers and bluetooths sending the superheroes on missions.
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Ironwood
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Episode two was better, for a lot of reasons. I'm still hung up on how attractive Kara is, but I think that's just because I'm a bloke.
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HaemishM
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She got hotter this episode.  Their fight team has gotten better at super hero fights as I thought they would. And it was nice to hear them actually say Superman instead of "the big guy" or something. They're a little on the nose with their dialogue - some of it almost comes across as preachy and out of character. It was a definite improvement over the first episode, and nice to see the sister actually kicking some ass on one of the aliens to at least make you think the DEO is for more than just bitching at Kara. Also:
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Riggswolfe
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Watching the first episode and I get more a Superman feel out of it than I did all of Man of Steel.
Where's the like button on this forum? Seriously, this. Superman isn't dark and gritty. He's full of hope and integrity. Supergirl in this show is a perky version of what Superman should be.
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