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Topic: "The Expanse" by Amazon [Formerly by Syfy] (Read 101014 times)
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MahrinSkel
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EDIT: Book based spoilers, don't read just because you're caught up on the show. --Dave |
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Oh ya. Thanks. Bad memory.
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Holden's acting and character - just super bland. It's like he's playing "generic guy" character. Some interesting things have happened to him but none of that really comes through in the script or the performance. I mean, him reporting the derelict got all his friends killed, you figure that would make some impact on his character beyond just casually mentioning it once or twice.
There's a backstory to Holden they haven't gotten into yet (can't remember if it even comes up before book 3), but what you don't like about his acting is actually him acting the role as defined in the book. He's pretty much a bland character that shit happens to but he makes the right decisions because he's trying to be decent. It's just that there's a very narrow gulf between "play the everymane" and "play super bland"  |
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Read the first book and halfway through the second one. The writing really falls apart in the second.
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Read the first book and halfway through the second one. The writing really falls apart in the second.
Oh yea, you gotta get sucked into the story to get through the writing that otherwise starts to get in the way. Corey is a very new writer. He starts to get more polished around book 4 (I think book 3 was the weakest iirc). The only reason I started reading him was before Leviathan was on special and while I don't mind paying for kindle books, I don't like paying more than $4 per book. I consume them too quickly to justify higher costs. So instead I've lowered my standards of quality  Currently going through all of Sanderson's stuff. Actually, after reading the latest Mistborn, I think I've gotten through everything. I'm sure a bunch of you don't like him for whatever reason. But he's got a great imagination, remains pretty self-consistent, and doesn't mind having completely different universes with completely different rules. |
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Abagadro
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It's actually a "they" not a "him." It's two guys writing under a pseudonym, so you will have some variability in the writing style book to book and even chapter to chapter I have noticed.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Read the first book and halfway through the second one. The writing really falls apart in the second.
Oh yea, you gotta get sucked into the story to get through the writing that otherwise starts to get in the way. Corey is a very new writer. One half of Corey is. The other half is Daniel Abraham, who is spectacularly good on his own. He did the Long Price Quartet, which is truly phenomenal, and is working through The Dagger and the Coin series -- next book is book 6 and last I think. He also wrote some entertaining urban fantasies as M. L. N. Hanover. |
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Abagadro
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Solid opening to the second season tonight. They are really jumbling around the order of some stuff if my (admittedly faulty memory) is any guide.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Goddamn, that was indeed an excellent double episode. Marred very slightly by having to pause it every 15 mins to explain to my wife what was going on. She really struggles to understand what they're saying. I did laugh at the breaching pods labelled FedEx  |
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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They're obviously taking some liberties, looks like they are going to compress the last half of the first book with all of the second (skipping the Ganymede subplot completely).
Still awesome. Bobby Draper throws you, she looks like a little 'china doll', then you realize she's 6 freaking feet tall and could probably break me over her knee.
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They're obviously taking some liberties, looks like they are going to compress the last half of the first book with all of the second (skipping the Ganymede subplot completely).
Still awesome. Bobby Draper throws you, she looks like a little 'china doll', then you realize she's 6 freaking feet tall and could probably break me over her knee.
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The fact they were able to find an actress of similar stature to the book as well as heritage is pretty impressive go go human diversity. |
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Most people probably don't care too much, but I figure F13 may: I really really like the fact that space ship combat at least tries to stick to realistic intertial space physics rather than starwars pewpew.
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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I also really care about that. And I also really care that they use realistic space travel physics. If you pause it when they're showing charts and graphics of ships in flight and routes etc, it's proper orbital mechanics. Someone done been playing some Kerbals. |
"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Abagadro
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(skipping the Ganymede subplot completely).
Maybe not. |
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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MahrinSkel
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(skipping the Ganymede subplot completely).
Maybe not. --Dave |
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Abagadro
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They just dropped the name as their next destination, so the place itself will come into play in some way I imagine.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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Abagadro
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They did the ending of Leviathan really well even if it is odd in its placement within the tv series.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Haven't read the books.
I have enjoyed this TV show tremendously though. Just great all the way through.
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Haven't read the books.
I have enjoyed this TV show tremendously though. Just great all the way through.
Yep, me too. Really good tv. |
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Abagadro
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They are doing an amazing job with this show. Great version of the start of Caliban's War and they are finally getting Avarasala's character closer to the awesome book version.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Hayduke
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Yah I really like this. Took me until season four of GoT to regard the ASoIaF books as the novelizations of HBO's Game of Thrones. This show did it much faster.
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Honestly our week revolves around this show now. It's as thrilling as GoT for me.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Honestly our week revolves around this show now. It's as thrilling as GoT for me.
Same here, just superb. The pacing is relentless (I haven't read the books). And I am transfixed by Avasarala's outfits. I think she's my favourite character in it. |
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Why does the UK not have s2 yet ?  |
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MahrinSkel
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Why does the UK not have s2 yet ? Revenge for BSG. --Dave |
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Yeah, we do seem to get some stuff really early lately, so I should probably just shut my yap.
But I liked S1 a bit and you guys seem to be creaming about s2, so it makes me sad.
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Abagadro
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Man, they are just fucking killing it this season. Sooooo good.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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This show is SO good. I didn't think Thomas Jane had it in him to be honest.
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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This show is SO good. I didn't think Thomas Jane had it in him to be honest.
If they follow the books at all (and they seem to be trying to for the critical bit), you'll see more of him in a season or two. --Dave |
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I have the season sitting on my DVR unwatched. Watch or delete?
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Abagadro
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Which season? Season 1 is a bit of a slow burn but Season 2 has been killing it week to week and is worth going through 1.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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Season 1 is worth it for itself, although the sfx on Eros are a little B-movie grade. And it's really important for setting up season 2, which has been awesome.
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Abagadro
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Ya, didn't mean to come off like Season 1 was not good. I loved it, but it doesn't have the momentum that Season 2 does and you'd be pretty lost without having seen it.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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You kind of need Season 1 to get that these guys don't start as best buddies, and how Holden ends up a celebrity the first time, and a lot of other backstory that has continuing significance.
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Threash
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You need season 1 because it's extremely good and far better than almost anything else on TV. Just because season 2 is better doesn't mean skipping season 1 should even be in discussion.
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