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Reply #35 on: April 29, 2015, 10:45:15 PM

That costs extra.   awesome, for real
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Reply #36 on: May 07, 2015, 11:21:09 PM

This was renewed for a season 2.  I'm kinda glad about that, I liked the first season.  I just hope they do the same 8 episode deal, I don't know if the show would work for more than that.
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Reply #37 on: May 12, 2015, 06:29:43 PM

The logline for Season 2: “Peggy must now journey from New York City to Los Angeles for her most dangerous assignment yet,” where she “discovers new friends, a new home… and perhaps even a new love.”

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Reply #38 on: February 18, 2016, 02:35:27 AM

So, this is on TV.

Still better than Agents.

Still not as good as Netflix.

They seem to be setting up to cover the creation and inflitration of Shield. Also making it about the black goo that showed up in Agents is a neat crossover.
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Reply #39 on: February 18, 2016, 05:05:47 AM

Different black goo.  This ties into Doctor Strange.
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Reply #40 on: February 18, 2016, 05:55:17 AM

Enjoy it while you can.  Apparently won't be getting a 3rd.

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Reply #41 on: February 18, 2016, 10:55:42 AM

I think that coffin was nailed when Most Wanted got the light. I bet we see more Atwell in the future (in flashbacks to earlier years on SHIELD, in movie flashbacks, etc...), but this show is done. I hope we gather a MAOS episode somewhere that wraps up the loose ends they preserve at the end of this season, though... maybe even freeze Dottie like Winter Soldier was frozen so that she can go modern... 


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Reply #42 on: February 18, 2016, 01:49:41 PM

1 down one more to go  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #43 on: February 18, 2016, 02:11:17 PM

Enjoy it while you can.  Apparently won't be getting a 3rd.

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Well at least we got 2, it was originally a 1 season thing.
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Reply #44 on: February 18, 2016, 02:28:17 PM

1 down one more to go  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
If you're saying Agent Carter down, MAoS to go: MAoS and Most Wanted are going to be on the air in the next year. 1 liekly down, 2 still going.

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Reply #45 on: February 18, 2016, 02:32:51 PM

1 down one more to go  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
If you're saying Agent Carter down, MAoS to go: MAoS and Most Wanted are going to be on the air in the next year. 1 liekly down, 2 still going.

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Reply #46 on: March 08, 2016, 03:17:09 PM

NaCl required, but there is a rumor going around that despite horrible ratings there will be a season 3.  I'd like to see it - and see it cover the start of SHIELD.  For the season 3 premiere, I'd take the short that was shot at the end of Cap I, expand it (fully reshot) into a full length episode and then run with it for a final season of the show.

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Reply #47 on: March 17, 2016, 04:02:34 PM

I watched series one of Agent Carter, and it was fine enough in an unremarkable way, and I am only a few episodes behind on series 2, but if it gets renewed again with its consistently awful - and declining - audience ratings then the criteria are clearly not commercial.

I also watched the first two series of MAoS and it got poorer and poorer as it went on.  The "we are a family" thing that got pushed in a more and more puzzling manner, leading to the "oh they wanted us to think that that would be a huge betrayal" thing was never earned, just asserted. 

Basically I watched Daredevil, Fargo, Mr Robot and I simply could not make myself go back to watching the pap that Agents of Shield was serving up.

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Reply #48 on: March 17, 2016, 04:59:46 PM

I would agree that the network series, Carter and Shield, are much weaker than the Netflix series. Compared to the DC stuff (generic soap drama in spandex, for the most part) they aren't bad, but the failure to really connect to any other element of the MCU combined with network blandness spread all over them really makes them suffer by comparison to Netflix.

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Reply #49 on: March 17, 2016, 05:07:41 PM

I would agree that the network series, Carter and Shield, are much weaker than the Netflix series. Compared to the DC stuff (generic soap drama in spandex, for the most part) they aren't bad, but the failure to really connect to any other element of the MCU combined with network blandness spread all over them really makes them suffer by comparison to Netflix.

Agreed: compared to stuff like Arrow they are pretty decent, but even amongst superhero stuff the netflix offerings like Jessica Jones and Daredevil blow them away.

I watch about four hours of TV a week at most, but I had to ration myself with series 2 of Fargo or I could have watched it in a night or two.  I make myself watch Agent Carter because my wife likes it.

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Reply #50 on: March 17, 2016, 05:17:30 PM

To be fair,  Netflix is kicking network ass on nearly everything, but it's really stark on the MCU stuff. Only a handful of premium cable series are as good as most Netflix offerings, and nothing on broadcast or basic cable (excepting AMC) comes close.

JJ and DD were just some of the best TV ever, that's a pretty high bar to be measuring Carter and MAoS against.

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Reply #51 on: March 17, 2016, 10:21:35 PM

Carter and Shield is like Legends of Tomorrow without the fun or interesting characters. The problem with Legends is its plot and internal logic, Carter and Shield only has its plot and internal logic and fails miserably. Where as Legends was mostly inspired to cash in on the side characters fans wanted to see more of and to extend the cw superhero brand, carter and shield were the brain child of marketing execs being told to sell marvel tshirts.

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Reply #52 on: May 12, 2016, 09:46:17 PM

Well this is cancelled.  I was hoping for another season, or a short season, to show the founding of SHIELD.
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Reply #53 on: May 12, 2016, 10:01:52 PM

Well she died and all..

 why so serious?

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Reply #54 on: May 12, 2016, 10:10:26 PM

Damnit. I thought 2nd season was much better than the first, and they left it on a damn cliffhanger of sorts.

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Reply #55 on: May 12, 2016, 10:17:13 PM

Marvel's Most Wanted didn't get picked up either.  Which means no more Adrienne Palicki in tight clothing.  :(
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Reply #56 on: May 12, 2016, 10:26:54 PM

Fiancee is pissed, it's literally the only fictional show we watch.

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Reply #57 on: May 12, 2016, 11:05:47 PM

Fiancee is pissed, it's literally the only fictional show we watch.

Well Hayley Atwell's other show did get picked up for series.  So if you like the actress she'll have something else.
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Reply #58 on: May 13, 2016, 12:30:08 PM

Damnit. I thought 2nd season was much better than the first, and they left it on a damn cliffhanger of sorts.

Funny how that goes. The second season's lighter tone wasn't so much to my liking, but my wife liked it a lot (I think it might have been a welcome change from my usual preference for grimdark Netflix offerings).

But I'll still miss it, even though it wasn't exactly what I was hoping for when I first began watching.
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Reply #59 on: May 13, 2016, 01:48:24 PM

I thought the chemistry between Jarvis and Carter, especially their comedic timing and tone, was what really made it an enjoyable watch. The Marvel tie-ins and adventure-y bits were just icing on the cake. Also, Hayley Atwell.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #60 on: May 13, 2016, 03:27:24 PM

I read that Netflix might revive it.  There was a petition or some such.

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Reply #61 on: May 13, 2016, 03:44:15 PM

I read that Netflix might revive it.  There was a petition or some such.

A true rated R Agent Carter is what is always should have been for spy drama set in the pre-cold war era.  Concepts like sexism and racism were given lip service but never really had any bite to them, treated with kid gloves so to speak.  Unfortunately two seasons on a very pg network could have already poisoned the well, they can't exactly just go back and redo those seasons and changing the entire tone of the show would be weird too.   They could keep it exactly the same and bring it to netflix but it was never received that well in the first place.

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Reply #62 on: May 13, 2016, 04:18:49 PM

I read that Netflix might revive it.  There was a petition or some such.
Concepts like sexism and racism were given lip service but never really had any bite to them, treated with kid gloves so to speak. 

This is why this lackluster show will never be taken seriously. Given an R rating and the first thing we want to see? The evils of being called sugar titts. Yes a show about a spy who literally one of the key holders of the fate of the free world, the most exciting aspect of her story is being called sugar titts. Gotta put some "respek" on her name.

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Reply #63 on: May 13, 2016, 06:02:36 PM

It's not what the show should be about but it's a symptom of why it was bad,  the whole show felt sanitized and watered down.  When you have a black scientist, in the 40's and the worst you get is "oh I thought you were the janitor"  it asks more of the audience on perhaps a subconscious level than people might immediately realize.  You know that italian gangster would be dropping the N bomb left and right, you know a lot worse than "sugar tits" would be happening and you know people would be smoking like chimneys. 

Network dramas only work when the characters seem real, Carter's world itself seemed unreal and when you add super science on top of that it all just falls apart.

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Reply #64 on: May 13, 2016, 06:15:32 PM

I thought the chemistry between Jarvis and Carter, especially their comedic timing and tone, was what really made it an enjoyable watch. The Marvel tie-ins and adventure-y bits were just icing on the cake. Also, Hayley Atwell.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
I agree, definitely our favorite part of the show. The casting in general was quite strong, though the mobster part was an obvious miscast (made more obvious by the better acting happening around him).

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Reply #65 on: May 13, 2016, 08:54:43 PM

I read that Netflix might revive it.  There was a petition or some such.

A true rated R Agent Carter is what is always should have been for spy drama set in the pre-cold war era.  Concepts like sexism and racism were given lip service but never really had any bite to them, treated with kid gloves so to speak.  Unfortunately two seasons on a very pg network could have already poisoned the well, they can't exactly just go back and redo those seasons and changing the entire tone of the show would be weird too.   They could keep it exactly the same and bring it to netflix but it was never received that well in the first place.

They wouldn't have to go hard R -- maybe amp it up just a shade south of Daredevil (I was going to say Jessica Jones, then I remembered the sex scenes). And just skip the timeline forward a few years to the fifties to make the change of tone less jarring.

But that's just wishful thinking -- I doubt Netflix or Amazon or AMC or whatever will pick it up. For one thing the budget to do a really good period piece is just too high unless the show is really raking in the viewers. And a good spy drama needs to keep jumping locations, which means more period set dressing, which costs more than I think anyone is willing to pay.

Shame really. I liked the young Howard Stark a lot, and was hoping to see him finally settle down and do his part in forming SHIELD.
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Reply #66 on: May 14, 2016, 01:50:52 AM

The tone played off what was establisghed in Cap I.  Sanitized and optimistic.  No grit at all.  Although they could have made a Netlix-esque gritty period drama with her at the center, that was not the show they made.  It was a pop serial.  I love Atwell, but I felt like they never really had a great show here,  It was my least favorite Marvel show - still watchable,  but not great. 

I would not be surprised if ABC doesn't have any Marvel shows on the air in the fall of 2017.  However, I hope that what we're seeing is ABCrealizing that they don't need to have 3 versions of MAoS on the air when they could instead be putting a show together featuring a character that has their own comic book.

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Reply #67 on: May 14, 2016, 04:53:53 AM

One thing I'll say about Agent Carter is at least they did short seasons. Fuck I can't handle 20+ episode seasons any more, especially with villains that last throughout the season. I'm incredibly sick of Damien Darhk, Zoom, and Hive in their respective shows. The network tv model just needs to die off for good at this point.
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Reply #68 on: May 14, 2016, 09:25:03 AM

The 6 to 13 episode series, even the limited ones, have spoiled me, too, for the most part.  I guess when you have less episodes you can spend more money on each, afford better actors, etc. and it shows.  Also, the way some of the comic book series have gone dark and gritty makes it nearly impossible for me to watch the network ones.  Too fluffy now.  The only reason I occasionally watch the DC Adventure one is because of the two blokes from Prison Break and the main bad guy. 

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Reply #69 on: May 16, 2016, 08:25:06 AM

https://www.change.org/p/netflix-save-agent-carter-bring-her-to-netflix

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