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Reply #35 on: December 29, 2014, 05:29:42 AM

I almost wish they wouldn't go full on mutant powers like they are going to because while mutant powers are awesome(I mean call them inhumans all you want same diff) I dislike power sets that are given "because reasons" when it comes to heroes. I mean ok you all have a gene that when activated makes one person fly, another turn to ice, another turn into animals, another manipulate hair....etc,etc.

Don't get me wrong, the x-men franchise is big for a reason, people love watching cool powers and such but god damn is the whole concept of mutant/inhuman powers lazy.

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Reply #36 on: December 29, 2014, 05:45:17 AM

Don't get me wrong, the x-men franchise is big for a reason, people love watching cool powers and such but god damn is the whole concept of mutant/inhuman powers lazy.

Well yes, Stan Lee created mutants largely so he could make a lot more characters without having to give them all origins.
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Reply #37 on: December 29, 2014, 09:47:15 AM

My question is whether we get the Terrigen Bomb or not.  If they're building to a true Marvel Universe with thousands of powered characters running around, they need an event like that one to create the influx of powers.... but that will change everything.  Regardless, I think I'm more excited about these Netflix series than I am about the Doc Strange and Ant-man movies...

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Reply #38 on: December 30, 2014, 01:09:11 AM

I really hope they don't go that route.  I'd like the marvel movie universe to remain a superhuman light world, instead of the self parodying 'half the population are superheros and manhatten gets blown up once a week' world that the comics are in.

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Reply #39 on: December 30, 2014, 07:31:34 AM

Even if they try to avoid that, slowly but surely the MCU is going to fill up with superpowered people. The question is whether they stop at some moment and decide to tell stories about a fantasy universe that's really notably different from our own, or whether they continue with the premise that the MCU is our world only with a few small differences.

I kind of hope for the former, but it's best if they ease into it really slowly, over a decade + of movies.
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Reply #40 on: December 30, 2014, 07:48:00 AM

Pretty sure age of ultron is going to fuck up the MCU earth to the point where they can't pretend it's our world anymore.

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Reply #41 on: December 30, 2014, 09:20:12 AM

Pretty sure age of ultron is going to fuck up the MCU earth to the point where they can't pretend it's our world anymore.
I think they've been escalating consistently.  Avengers featured an alien invasion in New York and the very public reveal that there are multiple races of aliens out there (Asgardians, Chitauri, etc...) Captain America 2 featured the revelation that the government had three flying warships with the capability to kill millions with ease.  That'd mess a lot of people up...

According to trailers, Avengers 2 is going to feature [spoilers]an army of Robots and the first public appearance of super powered people that do more than use technology and smashing[/spoiler]. 

There are going to establish that there are thousands of Super-capable individuals out there soon.  They've already shown a number of them with limited explanations of where the powers of Scorch, Absorbing Man, etc... originated.  And, the storyline they're building to over the next 4 to 5 years is based in pretty far out there comic stuff.   Whether it is the Terrigen mists or some other explanation, we'll be seeing more and more heroes and villains - and a more fantastic world.  I see no way around it.

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Reply #42 on: December 30, 2014, 06:28:42 PM

See, I love this. If they go the Astro City route, I will be very happy. I love the idea of humanity changing to adjust to fantastic shit. I hate the what the mainstream comics do, which is constantly return to default.

Marvel humanity should have outposts on planets around Earth, should have alien tech in major cities, should be moving to a world government, etc.  Like Miracleman but without the really hardcore Alan Moore-isms.
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Reply #43 on: December 30, 2014, 08:54:23 PM

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See, I love this. If they go the Astro City route, I will be very happy. I love the idea of humanity changing to adjust to fantastic shit. I hate the what the mainstream comics do, which is constantly return to default.

Marvel humanity should have outposts on planets around Earth, should have alien tech in major cities, should be moving to a world government, etc.  Like Miracleman but with the really hardcore Alan Moore-isms.


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Reply #44 on: December 30, 2014, 09:22:43 PM

Transmetropolitan would be so so hard to get right, though. The voice would be really hard to get right.
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Reply #45 on: December 30, 2014, 09:24:15 PM

Remember that these netflix series are focusing on less world spanning problems, I think they have said kingpin may be the only supervillain in the entire daredevil run.  So I wouldn't expect jessica jones to be very different, the tone they seem to be implying is more intimate and real world as the movies get more fantastical.

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Reply #46 on: December 30, 2014, 10:08:44 PM

The Daredevil producers compared the show to the Wire.
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Reply #47 on: December 30, 2014, 10:11:36 PM

If i was making a tv show i would compare it to the wire even if it was a cooking show.

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Reply #48 on: December 31, 2014, 01:06:34 AM

If i was making a tv show i would compare it to the wire even if it was a cooking show.

I meant in tone, hehe.  Although I am sure they hope it will be as good as The Wire. 
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Reply #49 on: December 31, 2014, 11:42:21 AM

Daredevil will be more of a crime drama, but there is more than just the Kingpin in it.  I know of at least one other minor villain scheduled to appear. 

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Reply #50 on: December 31, 2014, 01:24:32 PM

Stop posting things that I want to expand on!  I'm not surprised DD will have more than one but the tone of DD, JJ and IF are all going to need to mesh well since they will all be a part of the defenders "universe".  It's just not gonna be smallville with a supervillain of the week and mutants*cough* inhumans everywhere and that's fine.  MAOS is much better suited to villain of the week, it's a one hour tv sci-fi on network tv and that's where those things thrive.

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Reply #51 on: December 31, 2014, 01:51:10 PM

You can stop speculating about what Daredevil will be and how it will be connected to the MCU. The creators pretty much spell it out here.

I get the feeling it'll be a 2-sided crime drama, showing the rise of the Kingpin "Once Upon a Time in America" style on one side and the creation of Daredevil "West Side Story" style on the other.  why so serious?

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Reply #52 on: December 31, 2014, 02:09:14 PM

Well if I wasn't lazy I would have linked that myself but I'm saying the tone of JJ and IF will likely be very similar not that DD isn't already explained.

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Reply #53 on: December 31, 2014, 02:22:55 PM

They certainly could be, but they could be as different as Thor, IM, Cap I and Hulk were.  They'll all be 'street level' hero stories, not 'save the world' stories.  However, there is a lot of room for difference in those street level stories.  In the comics, the street level comics tend to be very different...

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Reply #54 on: January 05, 2015, 11:46:40 AM

Thanks for the Power Man and Iron Fist flashback. I had a bunch of those back in the day.

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Reply #55 on: March 11, 2016, 04:57:33 PM

Sep 30, 2016.

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Reply #56 on: August 14, 2016, 03:14:07 PM

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Reply #57 on: August 14, 2016, 08:42:00 PM

The teaser with "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" was the shit.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #58 on: September 28, 2016, 12:19:53 PM

Reminder: Luke comes this Friday.

Sweet Christmas in September.

Only had time to watch one episode so far.  Really liking it.  The first real Luke Cage fight scene is really well done.
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Reply #59 on: September 30, 2016, 01:57:51 PM

Well I thought this was due on Monday, was surprised to see it on Netflix today. Half way through ep 1 now. Loving it so far.

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Reply #60 on: September 30, 2016, 02:02:05 PM

Damn you, now I have to reactivate my Netflix account.

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Reply #61 on: September 30, 2016, 02:02:17 PM

Well I thought this was due on Monday, was surprised to see it on Netflix today. Half way through ep 1 now. Loving it so far.
I was enjoying it throughout episode 1, but the last few minutes, while pretty simple, really nailed it.

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Reply #62 on: September 30, 2016, 10:00:15 PM

Yep. S'good.

Music was spectacular (ep 1).
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Reply #63 on: September 30, 2016, 10:45:11 PM

Yes and yes.

Wife and I will probably do this ~1/week again. Lots of other stuff we're watching atm too.

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Reply #64 on: September 30, 2016, 11:41:15 PM

Show was really good, but some of the villains near the end lacked real impact I found. Plenty of room for a second season though. Most of the action is pretty good, but there are definitely a few times where its like "yep, this is still a TV budget  why so serious? "

It also really hammers home that 'yes this is part of the MCU' this go around. No beating around the bush at all.

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Reply #65 on: October 01, 2016, 07:33:51 AM

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It also really hammers home that 'yes this is part of the MCU' this go around. No beating around the bush at all.
Yeah, but can they say Ironman, Thor, Hulk or Inhumans at least once?

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Reply #66 on: October 01, 2016, 11:36:11 AM

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It also really hammers home that 'yes this is part of the MCU' this go around. No beating around the bush at all.
Yeah, but can they say Ironman, Thor, Hulk or Inhumans at least once?
Off the top of my head I remember them saying Captain America and Iron Man.
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Reply #67 on: October 01, 2016, 12:13:23 PM

I don't understand why they kept censoring the word "fucking" on the Wu-Tang song that played during the big fight in episode 3.  They have no problem with any other words including "nigger".

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Reply #68 on: October 01, 2016, 01:02:53 PM

Really? It's an American show. Sex is bad but violence and racism is how we do.
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Reply #69 on: October 01, 2016, 02:10:19 PM

Episode 3 Spoiler:


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