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Reply #70 on: November 24, 2015, 01:34:28 PM

Can I just mention how good I think the casting on Luke Cage is?

I think they knocked it out of the park with that casting. The actor they have playing luke cage is perfect I am very pleased and given I was looking forward to luke cage a lot more than jessica jones thats awesome. And as mentioned they got a lot of his backstory established now so his series can move forward a lot easier.

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Reply #71 on: November 24, 2015, 03:24:01 PM

Casting, acting and the way they portrayed his fighting style (and invulnerability) all really worked.  I'm really looking forward to his series.

Recent articles seem to indicate that Jessica Jones 2 before Defenders is unlikely.  One of the notes in the article on Blastr mentioned there is a contractual limit on when Defenders can be made... which combined with the comments that there may not be time to do a Jessica Jones 2 before it implies it might come between late 2016 (at the earlies) and late 2017 (at the latest).

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Reply #72 on: November 25, 2015, 05:49:03 PM

Finished!  It took me awhile, but she grew on me.  As mentioned above, Luke Cage is perfect.  I think I liked it better than DD, which was a surprise because I really liked DD and I didn't think I would be able to get over the Ritter casting choice.
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Reply #73 on: November 26, 2015, 01:46:44 AM

Casting, acting and the way they portrayed his fighting style (and invulnerability) all really worked.  I'm really looking forward to his series.

Recent articles seem to indicate that Jessica Jones 2 before Defenders is unlikely.  One of the notes in the article on Blastr mentioned there is a contractual limit on when Defenders can be made... which combined with the comments that there may not be time to do a Jessica Jones 2 before it implies it might come between late 2016 (at the earlies) and late 2017 (at the latest).
Iron Fist (the one I've been looking forward to the most of all of these) isn't scheduled till 2017.  So unless they decide to cut him, 2016 is unlikely.

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Reply #74 on: November 26, 2015, 05:13:08 AM

Only watched the first two episodes of this so far but I'm really liking it. It's really not what I was expecting, but I'm completely unfamiliar with the source material.

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Reply #75 on: November 26, 2015, 10:07:26 AM

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Iron Fist (the one I've been looking forward to the most of all of these) isn't scheduled till 2017.  So unless they decide to cut him, 2016 is unlikely.
While they've recently said Iron Fist will happen, they have not addressed the format. That means late 217 for Defenders seems likely...

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Reply #76 on: November 28, 2015, 05:25:06 PM

Just finished it.  Good show but not as good as DD.  Nice atmosphere and gritty super heroics.  Ending was good but...
So yeah, good show overall, but pretty far down on the Marvel tree for me.
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Reply #77 on: November 28, 2015, 06:36:14 PM

Just finished it.  Good show but not as good as DD.  Nice atmosphere and gritty super heroics.  Ending was good but...
So yeah, good show overall, but pretty far down on the Marvel tree for me.

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Reply #78 on: November 30, 2015, 08:21:20 AM

Finished this. I thought it was better than Daredevil. It goes a little wobbly in the middle, but no more than DD does toward the end.

Rytter grew into Jones (or I got more used to it).

I have no idea what the 'not linked to MCU' argument is about. If anything I thought they shoehorned too many references in, but using the general awareness of superheroes simply as an excuse for bystanders not to go batshit crazy was a good move that helped stop the scale exploding along the way.

Also
 - Kilgrave great, horrific onscreen, but great sense of threat even when he was off screen.
 - Nuke, Luke, Hellcat, all great, and as supporting characters, more fully realised and more confidently handled than I can remember in anything MCU.
 - Up till this point MCU only had 1 female character worth a damn, this show is full of them.

Whole thing demonstrated better than Daredevil that you really can make a dark superhero story watchable, you just need writers who aren't terrible and a willingness to follow through with concept and not simply blow up buildings.

Only critcisms, we didn't need so many flashbacks, and could probably have edited about an hour or so out of the flabby middle episodes.

There was some discussion about what people would like another season of. I don't care either way so long as they have a new story worth telling that doesn't require them to reset everyone's character development. As Jessica remains more dysfunctional than Matt, it probably makes it easier with her, but I'd be on board with either.

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Reply #79 on: January 17, 2016, 04:12:09 PM


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Reply #80 on: January 17, 2016, 05:28:06 PM


Rumors are it won't hit til after Defenders.  Unless Netflix really gets the ball rolling.. we still have Luke Cage and Iron Fist to go. 
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Reply #81 on: January 17, 2016, 05:55:27 PM

I'm curious about when it will come... Netflix is making a lot more series than I realized...

Nevermind... for the immediate future, 1 or 2 series a year seems to be it...

http://tvline.com/2016/01/17/netflix-iron-fist-casting-premiere-date/
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Reply #82 on: January 19, 2016, 12:14:17 AM

IMHO these Netflix Marvel shows (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, maybe Luke Cage) are better than any other superhero series or movie to date. Really enjoyed this.
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Reply #83 on: January 19, 2016, 01:54:09 AM

I read some feminist blogger whine about Jessica Jones being in the Defenders instead of her own series  awesome, for real

Love the show but I really don't want to know any fans. I think the difference between crap like Carter and Shield verse DareDevil and Jones is that Netflix has no obligation to make the movies look good. Carter and Shield are shameless marvel marketing ploys created to sell more movies. So they come off as blotted messes being push out to give fanboys something to watch between marvel movies.

Which is also why Flash and Arrow work. No movies to tie into, so no obligation to make some movie-verse look good or relevant to everyday viewers. This might change if Batman vs Superman and Suicide Squad are successful.

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Reply #84 on: January 19, 2016, 08:18:13 AM

There is a broader point that Disney should want to address, Jessica Jones and Agent Carter are the only female leads in the MCU and neither have a movie. Complaining that her next appearance is in a 75% male team is silly given the comic context but complaining that the first female lead in the films is in the 20th movie, is not unreasonable.
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Reply #85 on: January 19, 2016, 08:44:57 AM

Disney is in the business of trying to make truckloads of money not scoring political points with affirmative action advocates.
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Reply #86 on: January 19, 2016, 09:29:38 AM

Disney already has the girl market in full lockdown, Marvel and Star Wars are their boy franchises. 

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Reply #87 on: January 21, 2016, 01:41:32 PM

The Jessica Jones character from Netflix couldn't really carry a movie on her own. She was too somber and playing up her superpowers more - as would probably be needed for a good supes movie - would jar with the Netflix presentation.

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Reply #88 on: January 21, 2016, 02:22:30 PM

Meh if Marvel was better at retaining and developing villains than yeah a Jessica Jones movie would work. 2 hour crime noir with a super powered/super ruthless villain and a conspiracy as Jessica wades through the case creating more innocent victims than she saves.

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Reply #89 on: January 21, 2016, 05:17:34 PM

I think probably they could go trawling through some of the Heroes for Hire or New Avengers plotlines looking for a good story or story hook. They've pretty much touched already on the major plot lines from Alias, and the ones they haven't touched don't work in the MCU (Jessica accidentally stumbling on Captain America's secret ID). She might be an interesting person to put up against the Taskmaster? Though he seems also like a good Defenders enemy as a whole.
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Reply #90 on: January 21, 2016, 05:27:43 PM

They just need to get Cage and Jones married with a kid so they can introduce Squirrel Girl as the babysitter.   awesome, for real
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Reply #91 on: January 21, 2016, 05:37:14 PM

They just need to get Cage and Jones married with a kid so they can introduce Squirrel Girl as the babysitter.   awesome, for real


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Reply #92 on: January 21, 2016, 05:52:28 PM

We are already getting a Damage Control sit-com.. so it's not a stretch. 
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Reply #93 on: July 22, 2016, 10:43:33 AM

I finally got through this entire season. It didn't take this long because I didn't like it, I just had a lot of other shit on my Tivo to clear off.

This was good. DAMN good. I think the writing was actually a little better than Daredevil in that the flabby middle didn't feel quite so flabby here as in DD. DD is still my favorite because of the character but this was such a tight script overall that tackled some really weighty, meaty issues with maturity. Killgrave was just goddamn perfect from writing to acting. I'm glad they didn't go with purple skin because it would have had to have been a totally different story with that, and wouldn't have fit the tone. I thought Ritter did fine with JJ, but Luke Cage and Trish Walker/Hellcat were perfect. I really dug the actor they got to be Nuke, and didn't even realize who that was until he popped the reds. I hope we see him again.

The trailer they just released for Luke Cage is just goddamn awesome. Perfect casting and perfect use of his powers. Also perfect use of WU-TANG.

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Reply #94 on: July 22, 2016, 02:05:39 PM

The trailer they just released for Luke Cage is just goddamn awesome. Perfect casting and perfect use of his powers. Also perfect use of WU-TANG.

Geez, this.  So much this.   The other trailers were kinda meh, but I really, really want to see what that rampage was about.
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Reply #95 on: July 22, 2016, 02:42:35 PM

These last couple of posts made me go watch the Luke Cage trailer. Holy shit, that was fucking awesome.

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Reply #96 on: July 22, 2016, 02:47:19 PM

Wu-Tang Clan Luke Cage man ain't nuttin' to fuck wit'.  why so serious?

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Reply #97 on: July 22, 2016, 03:20:19 PM

Speaking of which, there's also a Defenders teaser.

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Reply #98 on: July 22, 2016, 03:24:47 PM

There's an Iron Fist teaser, too

https://youtu.be/QCSPda7xQ3s

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Reply #99 on: July 29, 2016, 05:39:16 AM

Jessica Jones 2 and Daredevil 3 will be in 2018 per various recent articles. Still no date on Punisher, but I think the order will be Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders, Punisher, Jessica Jones 2, Daredevil 3 all in the next 2 years.

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Reply #100 on: July 29, 2016, 12:55:37 PM

These last couple of posts made me go watch the Luke Cage trailer. Holy shit, that was fucking awesome.

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Reply #101 on: September 06, 2016, 01:42:55 PM

Started watching this, since I liked Heroes for Hire and whatnot. Don't remember JJ from comics, don't know when she happened.

I liked how the series started and Luke Cage was awesome in this.

I didn't hate the actress, but she didn't bring much to the role. As possibly the only person who doesn't like David Tennant, that removed the whole 'villain was good' part for me, he was just obnoxious. Trinity was decent at times, though they didn't give her much. Same for Calamity Jane, she had a couple decent scenes but they overall wasted the hell out of her.

But what's killing it for me is I hate the whole shitty crutch of mind control as a plot device. It's lame and even with as lame as it is, they waste it by the middle of the season by just cheesing it even harder. It's as bad as Shield's 'are they a bad guy or good guy/who betrays the team this week?' nonsense.

I'm on, I dunno even, ep 9? Just in cruise control with it on while I play Galaxy of Heroes before bed. Terrible show with loooong stretches of 'who gives a shit' between spurts of 'ok, I'll watch this scene'.

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Reply #102 on: September 06, 2016, 02:05:53 PM

The mind control thing is a key element in her history.  It is her origin story.  It had to be done if you're going to make the character.

I liked it, but not as much s DD.  However, I am looking forward to Luke Cage at the end of this month far more than I was looking forward to JJ.

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Reply #103 on: September 06, 2016, 03:25:52 PM

Wow. I thought the mind control problem was 100% the most interesting thing in the show (and in her comic). It's really rare that superhero comics treat mind control seriously as a premise--about how awful it would be, and about the bad things that could follow from it. It's perfect for the more "realistic" MCU, though, and it was handled really well. The only thing that I found disappointing in the series was the pacing, which was pretty awful. This was about 3 episodes too long, and individual episodes were occasionally just really mind-numbingly dull in parts. Compression of the stuff involving her neighbors, of the back-and-forth of dealing with Killgrave, of the Patsy plot arc, all would be good. Nuke/Agent Simpson shouldn't have been in it at all, he was a serious distraction.
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Reply #104 on: September 06, 2016, 04:39:18 PM

The pacing issue is something all of the Marvel and DC TV series needs to address though, because most of the story arcs are WAY too long. I've spoken about this ad nauseum with Arrow and Flash - both shows suffer because they feel they have to focus the entire season on one big bad instead of breaking the season up into discrete chunks of 2-3 main antagonists per season.

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