Kingsman

[Shannow]

This is probably going to be terrible but come on, George VI as a secret agent? Samuel L with a lisp? This is going to be awesomely bad.

[Rishathra]

I am all for watching Colin Firth doing over the top ass kicking, but I get the feeling he just does that one scene and the rest is going to be the chav.  Still looking forward to it, though.

[HaemishM]

I think it looks like ridiculous fun.

[DraconianOne]

Same creative team as Kick-Ass - Matthew Vaughn directing from a Jane Goldman adaptation of a Mark Millar comic book.

I'm in.

[HaemishM]

If it's from a Mark Millar comic, except it to be insanely stupid and illogical, and probably peter out completely in the third act as it goes full retard.

[DraconianOne]

Kingsman: Civil War

[Tale]

If it's from a Mark Millar comic, except it to be insanely stupid and illogical, and probably peter out completely in the third act as it goes full retard.

It's exactly that.

I saw it last night. My girlfriend, along with most reviewers, liked it more than I did. I was enjoying it as a light hearted take on the Bond genre, until the long approach to the ending, in which it went unlovably far over the top.

At one point there was also a long, unnecessary brutal scene. That, and the good guys being essentially a vigilante militia, started to put me off. If I'd known to completely switch off my brain and scruples, I'd probably have been happier.

[schild]

Day 1.

[HaemishM]

If it's from a Mark Millar comic, except it to be insanely stupid and illogical, and probably peter out completely in the third act as it goes full retard.

If I'd known to completely switch off my brain and scruples, I'd probably have been happier.

And I say again, MARK MILLAR.

[pxib]

For comparison, the original's trailer from 1982.

[Trippy]

Wrong thread.

[Ironwood]

Or is it ?

[Surlyboi]

They're heeeeeere.

[Soulflame]

Saw it with my wife last night.  This is reasonably good.

[murdoc]

Holy shit the church scene. That was worth the price of admission.

This was pretty fun but strayed way to far into the ridiculous in the last 20-30 minutes or so. Overall I enjoyed it.

[Samwise]

That was pretty excellent.  My only complaint was that they sent the highly-trained Hermione off to do a job that a kitchen timer could have done.

[Threash]

Holy shit the church scene. That was worth the price of admission.

This was pretty fun but strayed way to far into the ridiculous in the last 20-30 minutes or so. Overall I enjoyed it.

That church scene was incredible, i also liked the brutal scene Tale hated.

[SurfD]

That was pretty excellent.  My only complaint was that they sent the highly-trained Hermione off to do a job that a kitchen timer could have done.

I only had one major issue with the move:  The fact that the Kingsman, a "secret service operating at the highest level of discretion", managed to let a wanker like Charlie out of their sight and back into the general population without any appearent oversight.  I mean, I guess there is a small possibility that Arthur felt bad and forgave him for his actions in the training simulation, but the fact that he ended up at Valentine's secret gathering seems like a pretty huge gaping hole in the security of their secrecy.

[Threash]

That was pretty excellent.  My only complaint was that they sent the highly-trained Hermione off to do a job that a kitchen timer could have done.

I only had one major issue with the move:  The fact that the Kingsman, a "secret service operating at the highest level of discretion", managed to let a wanker like Charlie out of their sight and back into the general population without any appearent oversight.  I mean, I guess there is a small possibility that Arthur felt bad and forgave him for his actions in the training simulation, but the fact that he ended up at Valentine's secret gathering seems like a pretty huge gaping hole in the security of their secrecy.

The guy was a traitor and that was his chosen recruit, it makes perfect sense to me he would be there.

[Tale]

I only had one major issue with the move:  The fact that the Kingsman, a "secret service operating at the highest level of discretion",

Kingsman isn't a real secret service. It just plays one. It's a weird old-money vigilante group with the backing (and societal reach) of a trust fund, rather than a state.

[SurfD]

I only had one major issue with the move:  The fact that the Kingsman, a "secret service operating at the highest level of discretion",

Kingsman isn't a real secret service. It just plays one. It's a weird old-money vigilante group with the backing (and societal reach) of a trust fund, rather than a state.

I  get that, yet it is pretty heavily implied that while they dont answer to a "govennment", they still have enough resources and pull to give most government spy agencies a serious run for their money.  The fact that they were operating for decades while maintaining complete secrecy from said government spy agencies also seems to indicate that they took their "discretion" pretty seriously.  I mean, hell, Harry actually mentions that at one point, a mission he was on was breaking up a secret spy ring inside the pentagon.   If they can pull that off, without anybody picking up on it, you have to imagine they are pretty good.

I get that Charlie was Arthur's chosen pick, but Arthur strikes me as enough of a traditionalist that Charlie's failure would have been a pretty much guarantee of a quick boot out the door, not a quiet "I forgive you, here is the key to the back door".

[Merusk]

Just saw this. I'm sad it wasn't hyped more as it was great. I also discovered I'm cynical enough that watching the President go along made me say, "Oh, so the writers are Republicans."
Arthur was a traitor to everything and it makes perfect sense he would have let Charlie go on. The Kingsmen would have to be rebuilt in the NWO and so Charlie would get chance #2.

My only beef was,

[Samwise]

I also discovered I'm cynical enough that watching the President go along made me say, "Oh, so the writers are Republicans."

You didn't pick that up as soon as they described the bad guy as a "global warming nutjob"?

[Merusk]

Nah. Evil corporation/ corporate plots are overdone, so I was happy to see some other plot for once.  Environmental nutjobs need mocking too, after all.

I've seen enough crazy lefties say similar silly shit about "the human virus" which other left-learners can agree is dumb.  It wouldn't have affected the plot to have the President not be approached or be abducted close to the endgame going into motion.

Instead we get, "nope, he's evil."

[Lakov_Sanite]

ALL world leaders went splode, I think that's more the point than anything.

[Threash]

Not all, only the ones that went along with the plan.  All the others were just taken prisoners and not implanted with bombs.  I don't think a Republican would have written that church scene.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Well MOST world leaders but generally the movie was more anarchistic in tone than anything else.

[Samwise]

Point.  "Libertarian" would be a better description (global warming is stupid, Obama is bad, governments are bad, only unaccountable rich white guys can save the world), but in the US libertarians tend to be more closely aligned with Republicans than Democrats.

[Maven]

Enjoyable. I put the church scene up there with Oldboy because Holy Shit. I know there are some tricks being used but I admire Colin Firth putting in the training to help sell that scene.

Catholic Whore. Man I assume that was in the comic.