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Reply #175 on: August 21, 2014, 06:41:48 AM

Almost certainly.

Also, he had quite a bit of bad news to take in at the time.

(Also, Brian Limond is insane.  I had the pleasure of speaking to one of his co-workers at the web development firm they worked in.  His stories were illuminating.  Funny chaps tho.)

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Reply #176 on: August 21, 2014, 06:52:57 AM

I will speculate that Robin saw Parkinson's as something that would end his ability to do the one thing that kept him from descending into an inescapable emotional pit for his entire life.

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Reply #177 on: August 21, 2014, 07:13:14 AM

The best therapy isn't going to work for everyone. The problem always with mental illnesses is that they're wound around and in our sense of self the same way a tumor is growing in your own flesh, using your own genes. Sometimes you can take it out, sometimes you can shrink it to manageability, and sometimes it's somewhere so deep that there isn't much to be done about it.
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Reply #178 on: August 21, 2014, 07:29:39 AM

It's the same thing that Michael J. Fox has, no?  He's working hard for research and ways to keep a lot of the symptoms at bay and he's had it for ages.  I wish Robin Williams could have stuck it out a wee bit longer.  It was caught early and you never know what can happen.  I swear this must be a disease that attacks nice people with kind faces.  This whole thing keeps making me want to cry in my soup.  :(

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Reply #179 on: August 21, 2014, 07:40:03 AM

Alas hon, it ain't rational.

When Pratchett goes, it might be rational.  This ?  Not so much.

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Reply #180 on: August 21, 2014, 07:51:45 AM

Pratchett has already spoken quite a lot about how he is at peace with the notion of euthanasia I think?

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Reply #181 on: August 21, 2014, 07:57:03 AM

Exactly my point.  For him, if it's necessary, it'll be a rational choice which I'll just raise a glass to.

Just in case anyone's ready to point out hypocrisy on my part.   why so serious?

(I used 'might' because he still has time to get hit by a bus or some shit.)

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Reply #182 on: August 21, 2014, 08:40:59 AM

Since it's Alzheimer's you would have to make those sorts of plans in advance, I suppose, because if you wait too long, you'll just forget.  I can understand that much more because you'd be able to discuss it with family and friends and they could be prepared and supportive.  You're not going to shock anyone or, in the case of young children, teach them that suicide is an acceptable way to deal with depression or any other sort of problem.  I mean, srsly, how many teenagers have a major life changing crisis?  Err... like every day?  Having said that, why on earth would Robin Williams kill himself the way he did?  Hanging?  Why not OD or anything less horrifying?  Why leave that image in the minds of his family?  That bit, I don't get. 

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Reply #183 on: August 21, 2014, 09:11:28 AM

The old adage is that Men go violently, women use pills.  Hanging is the less violent way of killing oneself that comes to men. I imagine not wanting to be seen has 'just having relapsed and fucked up' and not "ultimately having let the pills win" might also have been part of the decision for a former addict such as Mr. Williams.

Since it's Alzheimer's you would have to make those sorts of plans in advance, I suppose, because if you wait too long, you'll just forget.

There was a story not too long ago on NPR morning edition about just this. The mother had made plans and discussed for a long time, and finally, one weekend after a particularly bad 'i don't know who the fuck I am' bout decided the time had come.  It was terrifying and touching at the same moment.

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Reply #184 on: August 21, 2014, 09:12:39 AM

Having said that, why on earth would Robin Williams kill himself the way he did?  Hanging?  Why not OD or anything less horrifying?  Why leave that image in the minds of his family?  That bit, I don't get. 

Fairly sure I answered that one.

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Reply #185 on: August 21, 2014, 09:16:05 AM

You did.  Sorry.  I think I might have just ranted or summat.

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Reply #186 on: August 21, 2014, 03:32:32 PM

...Ricky Gervais ...

.... is an unfunny cunt.


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Reply #187 on: August 21, 2014, 06:58:24 PM

He is too funny and he's a sweet old cunt. 

What happened to you, Sir T?  You used to be so sweet and shy and giggly! 

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Reply #188 on: August 22, 2014, 06:44:10 PM

It's the same thing that Michael J. Fox has, no?  He's working hard for research and ways to keep a lot of the symptoms at bay and he's had it for ages.  I wish Robin Williams could have stuck it out a wee bit longer.  It was caught early and you never know what can happen.  I swear this must be a disease that attacks nice people with kind faces.  This whole thing keeps making me want to cry in my soup.  :(

You know, when the Parkinson's thing came out right after his suicide Michael J. Fox is the first person I thought of. I can just see him going "God damn it Robin."

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Reply #189 on: August 23, 2014, 02:02:08 AM

He is too funny and he's a sweet old cunt. 

What happened to you, Sir T?  You used to be so sweet and shy and giggly! 

The hatred that Schild has for me has obviously tarnished my soul :(

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