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Reply #945 on: October 12, 2014, 04:31:52 PM

Demarco is a fumble machine. Seattle defense is going to have a field day. Cowboys aren't good enough to win there.

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Reply #946 on: October 12, 2014, 04:34:28 PM

The entire Seahawks team should be embarrassed. What a fucking shitshow. If I see another goddamned screen pass I am driving to Renton and kicking someone in the nuts.

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Reply #947 on: October 12, 2014, 04:36:50 PM

Anyone that thinks that Russel Wilson is anything but a mid tier QB is fooling themselves.  So many bad decisions. 

It's funny to think that Seattle got outplayed defensively at home. 

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Reply #948 on: October 12, 2014, 04:39:30 PM

The INT at the end was a bad decision, but his only other decisions the rest of the day was whether to take a sack immediately or try to make a play. His offensive line is a fucking dumpster fire. Russell fucking Okung apparently can't count high enough to figure out what the fucking snap count is. Fucking Okie piece of shit.

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Reply #949 on: October 12, 2014, 04:42:35 PM

The INT at the end was a bad decision, but his only other decisions the rest of the day was whether to take a sack immediately or try to make a play. His offensive line is a fucking dumpster fire. Russell fucking Okung apparently can't count high enough to figure out what the fucking snap count is. Fucking Okie piece of shit.

The throwaway that almost got picked and the quick out that the Dallas LB dropped also come to mind.  

Russell gets confused by stunts and by single side blitzes where the weak side LB drops off.  Watch the tape of the game and you'll see what I mean.  He still depends too much on athleticism and too little on his early reads.  He'll have to mature to stay on top of the game.
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Reply #950 on: October 12, 2014, 04:44:21 PM

I can't fault a guy for trying to make a play when he has zero help from his teammates or his retard offensive coordinator. When you are handed shit, you get a little on you.

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Reply #951 on: October 12, 2014, 04:47:17 PM

I can't fault a guy for trying to make a play when he has zero help from his teammates or his retard offensive coordinator. When you are handed shit, you get a little on you.

Brady has a worse OL, worse RB, and comparable receivers.  He sees the game much better and works under a better system. 

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Reply #952 on: October 12, 2014, 04:47:53 PM

Suddenly the Seahawks are a dumpster fire with a bad OC and shit for talent?

I mean come on.

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Reply #953 on: October 12, 2014, 06:10:21 PM

I can't fault a guy for trying to make a play when he has zero help from his teammates or his retard offensive coordinator. When you are handed shit, you get a little on you.

Brady has a worse OL, worse RB, and comparable receivers.  He sees the game much better and works under a better system. 

Brady also has how many more years experience?

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Reply #954 on: October 12, 2014, 06:26:25 PM

Brady also has how many more years experience?

Matt Hasselbeck has been in the league longer than Brady.  How's he doing this year?  

Seriously though, look at Luck and Stafford.  Both are QB's that have a higher football IQ.  They have it because they don't rely so heavily on their physical talent.  Wilson will need to learn the game better if he doesn't want to decline when his speed/arm strength start to decrease. 
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Reply #955 on: October 12, 2014, 08:05:33 PM

Yes but how does that make for a valid argument for a comparison with Brady of all people? I mean, you should at least size Wilson up against someone with a similar level of experience, no?

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Reply #956 on: October 12, 2014, 08:23:18 PM

Yes but how does that make for a valid argument for a comparison with Brady of all people? I mean, you should at least size Wilson up against someone with a similar level of experience, no?

I believe that I did.

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Reply #957 on: October 12, 2014, 08:49:22 PM

LOL at Seattle. Sorry to any Seattle fans but I will be rooting against them in every game. How did the Cowboys end up being a decent team? Giants go back to being awful.

Holy shit did the Packers get lucky. Rodgers was running for his life the whole game. F U Ted Thompson for not doing anything for the offensive line for the last 5 years.
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Reply #958 on: October 12, 2014, 08:54:09 PM

Yes but how does that make for a valid argument for a comparison with Brady of all people? I mean, you should at least size Wilson up against someone with a similar level of experience, no?

I believe that I did.

Allrighty then.

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Reply #959 on: October 12, 2014, 09:47:13 PM

I think this was Anthony Spencer's (Dallas' LE) second game back after missing most of last season. He looked really good against Seattle's OT's. I hope he can continue to get better and back to the Spencer that got 10+ sacks a few years ago.
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Reply #960 on: October 12, 2014, 11:40:55 PM

So I have to apologize to all Seattle fans, now that my rabid praise of Wilson has probably doomed them all.  Just like with my Fantasy team, any time I put someone in a starting slot, they shit the bed.  Meanwhile, Mike Wallace continues to average 15 points a week on my bench.  So from here on out, a pox on your house, RW.  And beware any of you with Wallace in other leagues...I am going to start that motherfucker.

Seriously, though, Bevell has some splaining to do.  He has somehow managed to take the great strength of that offense - the trickery and misdirection of the jet sweeps, the zone reads, the bootlegs and the screens - and made it one dimensional somehow.  It isn't trickery when that is all you are doing all the time.  When all of your best plays start from behind the line of scrimmage, it isn't hard for the defense to clue into that.  You have to spread the field a little to be able to work that stuff consistently.  It also makes it easier to stuff the box and stop Lynch.

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Reply #961 on: October 13, 2014, 09:06:38 AM

Holy shit did the Packers get lucky. Rodgers was running for his life the whole game. F U Ted Thompson for not doing anything for the offensive line for the last 5 years.

What the fuck are you talking about? He's drafted at least 1 or 2 OL in the last what 4 or 5 drafts? Bulaga was a first round pick in 2010. The current center is a rookie drafted in the 5th round. Bakhtiari is a 4th round pick from last year as is the guy who was supposed to be our starting center, Tretter. Derek Sherrod was a first round pick in 2011. You can say a lot of things about Ted Thompson, but you can't say he hasn't been trying to fix that O line. I think our O line problems come down to lack of experience, injuries and the lack of a tight end worth a shit. Seriously, look at our top 3 TE's - Quarless (who can't block), Rodgers (who is a rookie that can't block) and Bostick (who by all accounts kicks ass in practice but has yet to see the field for more than a few plays). As a result, every single thing Rodgers throws these days is around the numbers or on the sidelines. He can't or won't throw over the middle unless it's deep. He has no one to clear out the seams as Quarless is inconsistent and Rodgers doesn't trust him. And McCarthy seems unwilling to leave blockers in to help the tackles even when guys like Cameron Wake are absolutely eating Bulaga or Bakhtiari alive. I'm still not sure what Lacy's problem is this year but I'd put 50% of it at least on the O line not being very good at the simple things like run blocking. It's a testament to how goddamn good Rodgers is that he's put up the numbers he has despite never really having an O line worth a shit. See my analysis about sacks earlier in the thread.

Miami is a better team than they are given credit for with a tough defense. Tannehill is inconsistent but he can turn it on at times. Unfortunately for them, that time wasn't in the 4th quarter when they needed to hold onto the ball. You don't give Aaron Rodgers 2 minutes to win a game because he will. And Paelos you are right - the first team they go up against in the playoffs that can run, especially if they have a QB like Wilson or Kap who can do the read option well, they will lose HARD. Their defense is better than last year and it's starting to handle the run better, but they can't defend the read option for shit.

Also, apparently I should praise the shit out of Russell Wilson when he plays against a team I want the Seahwaks to lose to. Holy shit. I chose not to watch that game because I didn't think it'd be a contest and watched the Eagles/Giants instead. Fuck me, wasn't that a mistake. I refuse to believe Dallas is any good. That's the kind of thing that will BREAK REALITY. I mean, I've seen the Eagles and I know they aren't as good as 5-1. But for Dallas to beat Seattle AT Seattle just defies all the laws of nature.

Anyone that tells you Philly dominated the Giants yesterday should be slapped very hard directly across the face. They played decent but holy fuck the Giants are B-A-D BAD. No running game, an O line that continues to kill drives with stupid penalties, a defense that can't cover their feet in bed with a tarp and oh by the way, they probably lost their best receiver for the season to gravity. Philly might win a game against a weak wild card but they will not beat a good team with a good defense.

Huge LOL's go out to the Bucs for losing so bad to the goddamn Ravens. Huger LOL's go out to the Bungles for proving that field goals are not automatic even from chip shot range. They seriously look like they want to hand the division away - hopefully to the Browns. I can't root for the Ravens but I can root for the Browns.

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Reply #962 on: October 13, 2014, 09:10:09 AM

I should have clarified - Ted Thompson knew the offensive line was bad and his draft picks weren't working out/hurt. Should have done something, anything, in free agency.
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Reply #963 on: October 13, 2014, 10:00:22 AM


Anyone that tells you Philly dominated the Giants yesterday should be slapped veryhard directly across the face. They played decent but holy fuck the Giants are B-A-D BAD. No running game, an O line that continues to kill drives with stupid penalties, a defense that can't cover their feet in bed with a tarp and oh by the way, they probably lost their best receiver for the season to gravity. Philly might win a game against a weak wild card but they will not beat a good team with a good defense.


I agree with you here.  PHI DST is the only thing keeping them in games.  Giants though, I thought they were on the upswing.  I think they'll win win LOSE win win LOSE rest of the way out.  Just terrible horrible loses and above par wins.
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Reply #964 on: October 13, 2014, 12:57:29 PM

I refuse to believe Dallas is any good. That's the kind of thing that will BREAK REALITY. I mean, I've seen the Eagles and I know they aren't as good as 5-1. But for Dallas to beat Seattle AT Seattle just defies all the laws of nature.


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Reply #965 on: October 13, 2014, 01:57:31 PM

Russell fucking Okung apparently can't count high enough to figure out what the fucking snap count is. Fucking Okie piece of shit.

Good thing he's probably lost for the season then. Torn labrum sounds mighty painful, though the article does not say he's out.
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Reply #966 on: October 13, 2014, 02:32:00 PM

Russell fucking Okung apparently can't count high enough to figure out what the fucking snap count is. Fucking Okie piece of shit.

Good thing he's probably lost for the season then. Torn labrum sounds mighty painful, though the article does not say he's out.

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Reply #967 on: October 13, 2014, 03:48:29 PM

Russell fucking Okung apparently can't count high enough to figure out what the fucking snap count is. Fucking Okie piece of shit.

Good thing he's probably lost for the season then. Torn labrum sounds mighty painful, though the article does not say he's out.

His coach just said  15 minute ago it is a sprain and he will keep playing on it. Not sure why it keeps him from remembering the fucking snap count though. I will put up with holding and other signs you were trying to do your job, but jumping out of your stance AT HOME is just fucking mental deficiency all the way.

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Reply #968 on: October 13, 2014, 06:09:43 PM

And apparently the 49ers do not want to go to the playoffs this year.  why so serious?

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Reply #969 on: October 13, 2014, 06:46:42 PM

And apparently the 49ers do not want to go to the playoffs this year.  why so serious?

Plenty of time left. The Rams are shitty. This wasn't a game I expected SF to lose, but I don't think they are going to the playoffs this year. Their schedule in the second half is going to give them major problems. They better have 6 wins by week 10.

EDIT: Got the bye wrong.
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Reply #970 on: October 13, 2014, 08:18:55 PM

Did the Rams hold open tryouts or something?  They have a distinct lack of name players outside of their defensive front 7.

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Reply #971 on: October 13, 2014, 08:36:42 PM

And yet the Rams still have a chance.

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Reply #972 on: October 13, 2014, 08:40:53 PM

As I said, the Rams are shitty.

Best teams in the league right now are Dallas, San Diego, Denver, and honestly I think Indy is pulling it together well.

Next tier down in the hunt is Philly, Detroit, Arizona, Seattle, and Baltimore.
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Reply #973 on: October 14, 2014, 09:51:04 AM

I cannot in good conscience reconcile any sort of football world where this Dallas team is good.

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Reply #974 on: October 14, 2014, 12:34:45 PM

The 90s must've been tough for you.
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Reply #975 on: October 14, 2014, 01:11:58 PM

I actually liked them in the '90's before Irvin got caught with hookers and blow in a hotel room.

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Reply #976 on: October 14, 2014, 02:11:15 PM

I don't dislike many of the current Cowboys, but I can't root for anything good to happen to them until Jerry Jones is dead or gone. Fuck that asshole.

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Reply #977 on: October 14, 2014, 02:43:26 PM

I don't dislike many of the current Cowboys, but I can't root for anything good to happen to them until Jerry Jones is dead or gone. Fuck that asshole.

That's actually what being a Cowboys fan is about right now.

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Reply #978 on: October 14, 2014, 03:08:27 PM

Just an aside (as it pertains to the Cowboys), at my conference I was in a training course for certification on the using the software and there were 198 men and 2 women in the class. One of the two looked especially out of place as she looked like someone in marketing or sales (blonde, late 30s, former cheerleader type). When I saw her out at the lunch buffet I glanced at her name tag and it said "Dallas Cowboys Football Club".


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Reply #979 on: October 14, 2014, 03:39:47 PM

Joseph Randle, Cowboys backup rb was arrested for shoplifting.  Ohhhhh, I see. There's a funny meme I saw on another forum but I don't know how to embed stuff from twitter.   What Adrian Peterson has to say to Randle.
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