Bitch Thread for Warlords of Draenor

[Merusk]

Boy are you guys going to hate Wildstar's models.

Took a look.  No, because they followed the basic rules of proportions for faces so even though things are oversized they don't look as ridiculous.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Wilderstar models have sliders, makes a big difference.

[Sjofn]

You can never get away from GIGANTIC CRACKED OUT EYES regardless of the sliders, though.

Excuse me while I lol that these models are "out of proportion" and "anime-like" in the eye region, but Wildstar's get a pass. I like Wildstar's art style fine, mind you, but c'mon.

[Ingmar]

Boy are you guys going to hate Wildstar's models.

Took a look.  No, because they followed the basic rules of proportions for faces so even though things are oversized they don't look as ridiculous.

haha what

[Simond]

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140206006514/en#.UvQKabR6_-l

As of December 31, 2013, Blizzard Entertainment’s World of Warcraft remains the #1 subscription-based MMORPG, with approximately 7.8 million subscribers.

That's up 200k, for those keeping score. At the end of an expansion cycle.
Oh, and D3 has sold another million boxes as well.

[Rendakor]

Were those D3 boxes sold on PC or does that 1m figure represent the console launch?

[Ironwood]

I know the answer.

[SurfD]

Were those D3 boxes sold on PC or does that 1m figure represent the console launch?

However, it would be interesting to find out how many people who already own a PC copy bought a second one for their fav console.  If it is just a very small amount, then nearly 1m new players of D3 is still nearly 1m new players.

[Simond]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/12811675/artcraft-building-a-garrison-2-11-2014

[Sjofn]

I need more pictures of the Horde stuff so I can lose interest because there is no fucking way my blood elves would be caught dead in those hideous monstrosities.

[apocrypha]

*Resists urge to say mean things about blood elves not belonging in the Horde anyway* 

I'm very wary about this entire garrison thing still tbh. They really haven't said enough about how it'll work for alts yet. I have a lot of alts, in fact I don't really have a main. I've currently got 9 level 90's and only don't have a 10th because I want to have some reason to do an instant level to 90 when WoD arrives. If every single one of those alts has to have their own separate garrison I will be deeply unimpressed.

[Hutch]

As far as I'm concerned, it depends on what you can use the garrison for.

With the Tiller farm, one could make a case for getting a fully-functional farm on multiple alts. You never know when you're going to want to farm up some leather or cloth or other crafting material, or have a steady (if slow) supply of Spirits of Harmony. If you have multiple farms, you can get a lot of mats together in a relatively short period of time.

The garrison promises to be a lot more complex than managing a 16-plot farm. If you can perform all of the functions, and explore all of the possibilities, on a single character, then doing it on alts may be redundant. If you have to make choices about how to develop your garrison, then doing it with alts makes sense. Especially if you can make choices that enhance your character specifically.

[apocrypha]

Yeah good points, I just don't want to have to repeat grindy reputation crap on multiple alts like I did with the Tillers.

[Hutch]

With any luck, if there is some kind of rep grind, they'll copy the Grand Commendation concept, so that you only have to "grind" once on your main, and then it's double rates for all of your alts. And they'll have it in place right at the start, not after millions of players complain about rep grinds 

Once they put that in place, getting to Exalted with Tillers was only taking a few days per alt, and that was partly because some of the quests require you to plant something at your farm, and then wait a day to harvest it.

[Paelos]

Or they just make the grind longer and have it work across all the alts while they all contribute points.

I think that's a better solution, and encourages alting, while not damaging whatever time-retention model they love.

[Sjofn]

*Resists urge to say mean things about blood elves not belonging in the Horde anyway* 

I don't really disagree there. 

[Soulflame]

It's all the fault of the Alliance that the Blood Elves joined the Horde.  Well.  That one guy.  Fuck that guy.

[Simond]

It's all the fault of the Alliance that the Blood Elves joined the Horde.  Well.  That one guy.  Fuck that guy.

Also Jaina.

[Paelos]

They still haven't said anything about this coming out have they?

[Simond]

They still haven't said anything about this coming out have they?

Blizzard.

[Paelos]

Yep, which is frankly part of the problem. Hell, Hearthstone and D3 xpac still have to release first.

[luckton]

The patch with all of the pre-order stuff is going live this week, so it's only a matter of them turning the jump-to-90 feature on after Tuesday.  I suspect they'll do another "hey, subscribe to WoW for a year and we'll give you D3x for freeeeeee" thing, and that'll be announced before the end of the month or early March.

Won't lie, I might come back for a little bit if I can jump to 90 right now on a fresh toon with a pre-order, but Wildstar looks a lot like something more up my alley these days.

[Hutch]

I'm in that phase that I seem to get into at this point in an expansion. I raid when enough guildmates show up. I do my Timeless Isle daily quest, I grind out some cloth on my tailor alt. If I feel like it, I'll spend some time leveling my alts that aren't 90 yet (my Monk is 84).

This is also the place where I'll dabble in other MMOs. Right now I'm leveling up a toon in Rift. I'm planning to at least take a look at Wildstar, TESO, and EQN, if they can manage to go retail before Warlords of Draenor hits. But when it does hit, those games will end up in the same place that GW2 and TSW did when Pandaria hit, i.e. gathering dust on my hard drive :D

[Ironwood]

Rift is awful.

[Hutch]

bliddy bliddy blah

You think everything is awful.

I have played and quit Rift at least twice in the past, and I'll probably end up quitting it again this time around too. I knew this going in, and still I'm trying it, so there must be something about the game that appeals to me.

Since the last time I tried it, they upped the level cap, added a couple land masses, and gave you the ability to tack as many crafting skills onto a single toon as you please, so long as you'll spend the money.

That's how I'm taking it on this time around, is as an omni-crafter. I get my leveling done by "gathering" cloth and leather. And fighting off whatever mobs try to keep me from the plant and ore nodes.

I've observed that Trion broke up the quest hub approach a little, by applying the Kill 10 Rats type quests directly to the mobs. So, you go into Stonefield, kill a troll, and then you've got a Kill 12 Trolls quest.

[Rendakor]

Did they ever do anything about mob density in Rift, specifically on roads? My big pet peeve with it around launch was that even travelling through zones you out-leveled was a chore due to aggro, dismounting grey mobs EVERYWHERE .

[Hutch]

They pushed that needle all the way to the other end. Mob density is the same, but their aggro radius is much, much smaller. You practically have to run up and beat a same-level mob across the face before it will attack you.

I'm exaggerating. A little. But you pretty much get to decide which mobs you fight.

[Rendakor]

Good to hear, thanks. Might have to give it another shot at some point.

[Ironwood]

You think everything is awful.

That's not really true.  I like many things.  I've always been a particular fan of your avatar, for example.

[Rokal]

Rift has taken a lot of good steps to make it more approachable. F2P, spec templates, guild-finder, aggro radius, etc.

I still maintain that it's a better WoW than WoW.

On topic: I hope the new patch will bring a release date or at least a beta date soon.

[Fabricated]

[Rasix]

A mage named Raistlin.  Heh.

[Mithas]

$60 is going to piss a lot of people off. Most people are speculating somewhere between $20-40.

[luckton]

$60 to essentially say "fuck dealing with all of the content that dozens of art, development, engineer, and Q&A teams spent building for the last 10 years" is not that bad of a price, IMO.   

[Paelos]

I like it. I'll never use it, but I like that it exists.

It should be high. I keep thinking I should have held that stock.