iOS 7

[ghost]

I think it's debatable whether or not a significant portion of the population is smarter than a monkey.     Just look at all the idiots that voted for W. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

It should also be repeated because people don't read. You DO NOT need a password.

[Merusk]

Which was covered, to which you said:

If you can't remember a 4-digit code then gtfo technology.

Which prompted the current line of conversation you're now objecting to.  So you're just looking to argue then. Good to know.

[Hawkbit]

The level feature in the compass is badass.  I'm running around checking to make sure everything is level around the office. ;)

[Typhon]

"I forgot my password" is not a problem that Apple gave a shit about.

"Millions of paying customers are forgetting their passwords and then calling tech support", is a problem that Apple really really really wanted to fix.  Thus the finger-swipe thingee.  At the same time the change (theoretically) makes the phones less attractive to steal.

Seems like pure win from an Apple perspective.

[Typhon]

TouchID Hacked (ArsTech article)

Obviously I'm not in the security business because I wouldn't describe this hack as trivial.

[Venkman]

It's about inconvenience not forgetting a password.  

My iPad doesn't leave the house or contain sensitive information, why does it need a lock?  

It's only an inconvenience if you couldn't turn it off after Apple took a chance to make everyone comply, and the more comfortable users will know how to turn it off.

And yea this is a dumb post now that I've read the third page. But I can't delete, so instead I'll just add this paragraph

[Wasted]

I'm getting used to ios7 but the latest version of itunes is broken for me, it hangs all the time even scrolling through lists, its pretty much unusable.

[Surlyboi]

Reset all settings tends to fix a lot of that kind of stuff.

[KallDrexx]

fuck you Apple.

Safari si a piece of shit, and our company's video sites (which work just fine in ios5 and 6) crash safari on iOS 7.  The crash logs are fucking worthless and we are stuck.

[Viin]

Burn it, burn it all. (I hate managing browser compatibility, what a colossal waste of time)

[Engels]

Its always been a mystery to me how Apple can be at the forefront of so many elements in OS usability yet wears its pants firmly on its head when it comes to browsers and media management systems.

[ghost]

I don't think Apple's behavior regarding their webrowsers is "pants on head".  It's pretty clear they are attempting to bully people into using the standards that they want to use. 

[Engels]

You can't bully your customers when the customer has at least two readily available and wildly more popular browsers, Chrome and Firefox, right there on the interwebs. And although I'm happy to be enlightened, I have no idea what standards you think Safari is pushing.

[luckton]

I have no idea what standards you think Safari is pushing.

It's not that Safari has any language/programming standards, far from it.  The 'standard' is that "because 100M+ people have iPhones/iTouchs/iPads, and a good chunk of them don't have any clue about using a browser other than Safari on them, you must support Safari, regardless of how badly coded and unstable it is."

[Surlyboi]

What is this? I don't even...

[Venkman]

You can't bully your customers when the customer has at least two readily available and wildly more popular browsers, Chrome and Firefox, right there on the interwebs. And although I'm happy to be enlightened, I have no idea what standards you think Safari is pushing.

Sure you can. Apple's just pulling a 90s-era Microsoft, except they provide all parts of the ecosystem and quite possibly can't be sued for being a monopoly as a result. I use Chrome on my iPhone 5 and iPad Retina, but based on the data I've seen, the vast majority of people do not.

Further, given the amount of people who are using Chrome on desktops and laptops, I doubt they don't know about mobile browsers as much as they don't give a shit. Safari is fine for the vast majority of mobile browsing given how many sites either poorly implemented their mobile formatting, don't really offer much reason to use them mobilely, or shifted resources to creating an app instead of bother with a mobile site in the first place. My fucking local bar, of which there is precisely one location, has an app, and their website barely loads on my desktop.

We can thank Apple for the app convention too. 

[Hammond]

So in supporting one of my users I got to play around with the new version of iOS. It is pretty blah overall to me shrug. General comments from the older users is WTF is this crap and why can't I go back.

[bhodi]

I'm not a fan of it visually.

[Rishathra]

I got my first iPhone about a week before iOS 7 came out, so I'm lucky.  I wasn't particularly attached to the old one enough to miss it.

[Brofellos]

Got an ipad mini for xmas w/ 7 on it. I'm not a huge fan of the visuals, and as far as i can tell the only great improvement is accessing all the stuff by flicking up on the bottom of the screen.

[Hawkbit]

It was a subtle update.  Here's a big list:  http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/ios-7-features.html

I'm ambivalent about the aesthetics.  However, performance on devices released in the last two years is much better.  My old iPhone 4 struggles with it, though. 

[Baldrake]

I love the aesthetics and would not go back even if it were possible. BUT I'm really getting hammered with battery life. I used to be able to get 1.5 days out of a charge in my iPhone 5, and now am only limping through to 5:00 PM unless I sneak in a charge during the day.

[Pennilenko]

I love the aesthetics and would not go back even if it were possible. BUT I'm really getting hammered with battery life. I used to be able to get 1.5 days out of a charge in my iPhone 5, and now am only limping through to 5:00 PM unless I sneak in a charge during the day.

The poor battery life you mention is one of the reasons I think the tech industry should temporarily take a pause in making things ever faster and focus on creating new power sources.

[Numtini]

I'm not sure how much you're using it, but I get like 3 or 4 days out of an Iphone 5.

[Hawkbit]

I get three days out of my nearly 3yr old 4 on iOS 7.0.4. 

Be vigilant about shutting down apps you don't use and make sure to use wireless when you can.  Every app running that needs to know your location can potentially be updating, which drains fast too. 

ymmv.

[Merusk]

I would just like to take a moment here to bitch about three things.

* The inability to roll back an OS on Apple machines
* Pushing out an OS that let the users decide to install in a corporate environment. (which subsequently broke all their programs)
* Manufacturers who still haven't fixed their driver problems, 4 months after Maverick was pushed. (I'm looking at you, Wacom.)

[Viin]

My bitch is that iOS 5.1.1 is the last update for iPad 1 and most apps don't support it anymore! Don't wipe your iPad 1 folks, or you won't be able to install your apps back on it! (such as Kindle Reader)

[MahrinSkel]

Tell me more about how wonderful it is to be in Apple's walled garden, where everything 'just works' (until Cupertino decides it shouldn't).

--Dave (I am allowed one 'in your face' to the cultists per calender year, I'm using it early)

[Surlyboi]

Old bullshit argument is old. But you keep rockin' that "cultist" hate.

As for your battery life Baldrake, follow some of the instructions others have mentioned here about watching location-sensitive apps. If all else fails, wipe and restore.

[MahrinSkel]

Baldrake, how old is your phone?  If it was one of the first 5's, it's coming up on a year and a half old, and the LiPo battery pack is hitting the wall.  What you need to do is open up your phone and replace the battery...lol, sorry, couldn't resist.

Your phone is reaching the end of it's designed lifespan, you will have to replace it when it enters paperweight mode, which could be anytime in the next 9 months.  iOS 7 maybe accelerating that, but it's a built-in self destruct in all portable Apple products.

--Dave

[Tebonas]

iOS7 drove me to Android (at least on the phone), so I have not much good to say about it. But I can say battery life wasn't one of the problems I had with it.

[Chimpy]

Baldrake, how old is your phone?  If it was one of the first 5's, it's coming up on a year and a half old, and the LiPo battery pack is hitting the wall.  What you need to do is open up your phone and replace the battery...lol, sorry, couldn't resist.

Your phone is reaching the end of it's designed lifespan, you will have to replace it when it enters paperweight mode, which could be anytime in the next 9 months.  iOS 7 maybe accelerating that, but it's a built-in self destruct in all portable Apple products.

--Dave

My 4S is over 2 years old and while the battery does not last as long as it did when it was new, it still easily lasts a full day when I am not going in and out of service (which I do at work since I work in a basement). And good luck finding a high end one of your vaunted Android phones that has a replaceable battery now.

[Mazakiel]

The last couple of phones I had all started having various issues around the 1.5 year mark, and I've used both Android and iPhone models.  None to the degree that they weren't usable, though. 

We recently switched to the 5s for our phones, and we're liking them just fine.  I can get anywhere from 1.5 days to 3 depending on where I'm going and how much I use it. 

[Polysorbate80]

I keep mine in a Mophie juice pack.  It's nice to have a built-in spare battery that I can't misplace or forget to charge.

The big downside for most would be that the iphone 5 won't (but should) cable sync to iTunes through the Mophie.  Since I never bother to do that, I don't really give a shit though.  It's more annoying to me that it's just slightly too tall for a shirt pocket now.

Edit: I've never updated it to 7, and haven't seen any compelling reason to do it.