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Margalis
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Minecraft has also been bundled.
The fact that Wii Sports was bundled actually makes it MORE impressive, not less. People were paying the price of a console just to play one game. It's not like people were thinking "well, I want a Wii and hell it comes with this 'Wii Sports' game."
Wii Play, sure. That was an example where the game just sweetens the deal.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Why would you assume people went out of their way to get their hands on wii sports?
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Morat20
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Why would you assume people went out of their way to get their hands on wii sports?
Offhand, both my mother and my aunt bought Wii's pretty much entirely for Wii sports. Later they did other stuff with them, and I think my mom even used or uses that weird little exercise stand thingy, but it was pretty much bowling and golf that made them get the Wii. |
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Why would you assume people went out of their way to get their hands on wii sports?
Offhand, both my mother and my aunt bought Wii's pretty much entirely for Wii sports. Later they did other stuff with them, and I think my mom even used or uses that weird little exercise stand thingy, but it was pretty much bowling and golf that made them get the Wii. Wii sports was the main reason people originally bought the Wii for. |
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Why would you assume people went out of their way to get their hands on wii sports?
That's why almost everyone I know who bought a Wii, bought a Wii. Hell, it was a big part of why we got one. |
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Morat20
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Why would you assume people went out of their way to get their hands on wii sports?
That's why almost everyone I know who bought a Wii, bought a Wii. Hell, it was a big part of why we got one. It's pretty much the only Wii game I happy still play. Bowling is still fun. :) |
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Why would you assume people went out of their way to get their hands on wii sports?
That's why almost everyone I know who bought a Wii, bought a Wii. Hell, it was a big part of why we got one. It's pretty much the only Wii game I happy still play. Bowling is still fun. :) Nod. That's why everyone who I know personally bought a Wii as well, including myself. |
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dusematic
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Reports coming out of Japan about large PS4 stock on shelves doesnt sound very promisingl
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Miasma
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Reports coming out of Japan about large PS4 stock on shelves doesnt sound very promisingl
It's not sold out everywhere day one but it seems to be doing fine. Meanwhile, Microsoft has announced an xbox titanfall bundle, it's the same as the base system but includes Titanfall. They didn't increase the price though, it's still $499. So they've had to add a free game to the base console to try and move them. They also just outright cut the UK price. |
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I've heard a lot of speculation that if Microsoft ever sold off the Xbox division that Amazon might be interested. That kinda breaks my brain but with all of the major tech companies throwing money away buying companies that don't have any method of monetization or no profits who knows.
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Maledict
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330K sales of the PS4 in Japan in two days, so slightly higher than the WiiU and definitely "doing fine". given the lack of Japanese orientated games right now that's a strong start but theyw ill need to follow it up with software fairly fast otherwise it will crater like the WiiU did.
Meanwhile, you can now get an Xbox One plus Titanfall for £370 in the UK. After MS slashed the price and added in a free copy of titanfall, Gamestop then went one further and cut the price even further. You can only speculate at how bad the initial numbers were looking for feburary and how many units were taking up space in warehouses to justify this sort of rapid price cuts.
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Phildo
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I've heard a lot of speculation that if Microsoft ever sold off the Xbox division that Amazon might be interested. That kinda breaks my brain but with all of the major tech companies throwing money away buying companies that don't have any method of monetization or no profits who knows.
Think about how much more they could advertise to you if they had direct access to your living room? And they could also extort fees from services like Netflix for continued appearance on the platform. Also, the KindleBox would probably sell a shitload based on brand recognition. |
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Is it possible that both these consoles will have a very mediocre reception for this generation?
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Cyrrex
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To an extent, probably. Though I think PS4 will generally be better off.
I think that a major problem they are facing is that there simply isn't (at this point) much to differentiate it compared to the last generation. Ignoring the library, think of the technical leap from the PS2 to the PS3. It is HUGE. The leap into HD and the massive improvement in overall graphical quality. Not to mention the other benefits (media server, netflix, blu ray capability, online store, etc.). It was such a big difference that I, for one, absolutely HAD to get one. Same with xbox to 360. Night and day.
Now? I don't really know. We are still talking the same resolutions, and in a lot of cases the same framerates. The graphical fidelity is better from a PS3 to a PS4, but it isn't like the difference is gigantic at this point (I think it will be later on probably). In short, there isn't anything there to make me go "I GOTTA HAVE IT!!" And it won't happen until there are a few more exclusives out.
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Quinton
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I'm skeptical of Amazon pursuing a $400-500 console strategy. I think they'll just content themselves with ensuring Amazon Instant Video is available for all the pricier consoles.
What would make far more sense would be for them to take the guts of their latest-gen kindle fire, stick it in a little box with HDMI and a controller/remote in place of touchscreen and battery, and sell it for $100 or less to compete with roku, apple tv, etc -- serve up amazon video, amazon music, shopping, android apps, etc. I bet all the developers who expended effort developing or porting to Ooya and it's couple of 10s of thousands of users would scramble to get their stuff on an amazon device that would likely see millions of users in short order.
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KallDrexx
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I'm skeptical of Amazon pursuing a $400-500 console strategy. I think they'll just content themselves with ensuring Amazon Instant Video is available for all the pricier consoles.
What would make far more sense would be for them to take the guts of their latest-gen kindle fire, stick it in a little box with HDMI and a controller/remote in place of touchscreen and battery, and sell it for $100 or less to compete with roku, apple tv, etc -- serve up amazon video, amazon music, shopping, android apps, etc. I bet all the developers who expended effort developing or porting to Ooya and it's couple of 10s of thousands of users would scramble to get their stuff on an amazon device that would likely see millions of users in short order.
I'd be surprised if Ouya has that many active users. still. Also, from what I've read I think a lot of devs gave up on the Ouya early on. |
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Miasma
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Is it possible that both these consoles will have a very mediocre reception for this generation?
I won't swear by it but if I remember correctly they are already outselling their predecessors given the same amount of time since release. Whether or not that keeps pace is anyone's guess. On Microsoft selling off the xbox business I have even less idea. When idiotic, useless companies that don't make money are buying other useless money losing companies for billions of dollars based purely on how many users and "potential" they have I don't think rational estimates can be made. I mean xbox live has millions of users, most of which are in that highly sought after younger demographic. Its main problem is how incredibly hard it would be to cut it out of the Microsoft collective as a separate entity. I doubt it would be possible, for technical reasons. |
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Quinton
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Sorry, should have said "units", not "users" there.
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MrHat
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I'm skeptical of Amazon pursuing a $400-500 console strategy. I think they'll just content themselves with ensuring Amazon Instant Video is available for all the pricier consoles.
What would make far more sense would be for them to take the guts of their latest-gen kindle fire, stick it in a little box with HDMI and a controller/remote in place of touchscreen and battery, and sell it for $100 or less to compete with roku, apple tv, etc -- serve up amazon video, amazon music, shopping, android apps, etc. I bet all the developers who expended effort developing or porting to Ooya and it's couple of 10s of thousands of users would scramble to get their stuff on an amazon device that would likely see millions of users in short order.
They could partner with Xbox and release Xbox One Amazon Edition. Remove the disc drive. Double the storage. Pure digital downloads. Link XBLive with Amazon Prime. Sell it at $300 with the condition of advertisement. Call it XBox Prime. |
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sickrubik
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Reports coming out of Japan about large PS4 stock on shelves doesnt sound very promisingl
Just noticed no one chimed in. They sold 322k PS4s in the first two days. Well ahead of the 88k that PS3 sold but still less than the PS2 which sold 630k. |
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schild
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Was about to ask what they could possibly be playing on the PS4.
Then found out they had a Yakuza title out already.
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MrHat
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Reports coming out of Japan about large PS4 stock on shelves doesnt sound very promisingl
Just noticed no one chimed in. They sold 322k PS4s in the first two days. Well ahead of the 88k that PS3 sold but still less than the PS2 which sold 630k. Holy hell the PS2 sold 630k in Japan in the first two days?? |
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Yegolev
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Eternal Ring wasn't that great.
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schild
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Eternal Ring wasn't that great.
No, it wasn't. But the leap from PS1 to PS2 was massive. Also, it played DVDs. I feel like people constantly forget that the killer app was playing DVDs. |
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Phildo
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When games no longer needed to come on four different discs? Yeah, that was pretty sweet.
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Yegolev
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I feel like people constantly forget that the killer app was playing DVDs.
I do forget that, and it was a big deal. PS3 went Bluray, and a load of other bells and whistles. Not sure what the PS4 brings other than it is supposed to be easier to develop for. As evidenced by the plethora of launch titles? |
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Paelos
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Yeah I'm unclear how the PS4 is better than the PS3. I'm very clear on why the XBone sucks ass.
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Rasix
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More pixels.
I'm just kind of thankful that this generation is so easy to ignore for now.
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schild
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I will eventually end up with a PS4 because I have 5 years of Playstation Plus or whatever thanks to a Walmart sale and I want those free games, but unless Demon's Souls 2 comes out on it, I don't see myself BUYING any games.
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Rendakor
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I'm probably going to get one too, just because I like JRPGs. There isn't anything in particular on the horizon that I'm excited for, since Persona 5 is hitting PS3 instead.
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schild
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since Persona 5 is hitting PS3 instead. Yea, when I read that I said "Ok, then. Sticking with dat PS3." |
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