Dark Souls 2

[Nonentity]

Didn't see a thread.

Wanted to talk about the news out of E3. Now, obviously this isn't by the same designer, as he's moved on to make a new project for next gen, but it's still From Software.

- New rendering engine, apparently the lighting is quite good?
- Dual wielding is confirmed. No idea how that is gonna work.
- You can two-hand a shield.
- You can teleport between bonfires. Still don't know how I feel about that.
- No locking animations for backstabs or ripostes. A backstab is a move like any other, and same with a riposte, in that you can be interrupted out of it. Other creatures seeing you perform a backstab will come to assist, and some creatures even do shit like fall on you as you backstab them to interrupt you.

[Yegolev]

Were the first four not available in previous?  Maybe I was smoking the crack.  I didn't actually try to two-hand a shield in Dark.

I think the lighting was fine, though.

[murdoc]

I two-handed a Black Iron Greatshield to run up to the Silver Knights in Anor Londo and let them smack me until they fell off their ledge.

[Ard]

You could also teleport  between camp fires once you got far enough in.

[Nonentity]

You could also teleport  between camp fires once you got far enough in.

Guess that says how far I got.

And I don't think you could two hand a shield, I haven't seen any evidence online to support that.

[Falconeer]

I think you can have one shield for each hand. But a two handed shield? Don't think I've ever tried.

[Yegolev]

And I don't think you could two hand a shield, I haven't seen any evidence online to support that.

Hey, go play the game!  How far did you get?

[murdoc]

And I don't think you could two hand a shield, I haven't seen any evidence online to support that.

I two-handed a Black Iron Greatshield to run up to the Silver Knights in Anor Londo and let them smack me until they fell off their ledge.

*sigh*

[Yegolev]

The only news here is the change to backstab/riposte and that Nonentity isn't a gamer.

[Nonentity]

And I don't think you could two hand a shield, I haven't seen any evidence online to support that.

I two-handed a Black Iron Greatshield to run up to the Silver Knights in Anor Londo and let them smack me until they fell off their ledge.

*sigh*

I DONT TRUST YOU

[Nonentity]

The only news here is the change to backstab/riposte and that Nonentity isn't a gamer.

LISTEN I stopped at Anor Londo and then that was when I threw my controller into my TV, shattering it and promising myself I'd never play dark souls anymore.

...but I'd play a dark souls 2

[Falconeer]

Right, you are the one I always tell my friends about, that guy who darksouled his TV. Couldn't remember who was it, but I loved your photo of the incident.

[Nonentity]

I thought long and hard about video games and my stubborn attitude after that incident.

[Yegolev]

Well, the funny thing is that Anor Londo is not really that bad.  Lots of people think Blighttown is awful, and I suppose these people stopped where you did, but you really should go into the city.  Also you get to meet everyone's favorite two archers.

I should go back to Demon's Souls because I am awful at games but I think Dark Souls isn't terribly difficult.  Except that demon in the first area, that guy is awful.  No, the other one.  The one downstairs.

[Sophismata]

Well, the funny thing is that Anor Londo is not really that bad.  Lots of people think Blighttown is awful, and I suppose these people stopped where you did, but you really should go into the city.  Also you get to meet everyone's favorite two archers.

I should go back to Demon's Souls because I am awful at games but I think Dark Souls isn't terribly difficult.  Except that demon in the first area, that guy is awful.  No, the other one.  The one downstairs.

He's just super time consuming because you don't do any damage when you first find him. Overall Dark Souls is much easier than Demon's Souls.

[schild]

I stopped playing Dark Souls a few hours in because I didn't feel challenged.

That would be because I had gotten so good at Demon's Souls.

Shame. They'll have to crank the difficulty up (somehow) on Demon's Souls 2 to really get me.

[MournelitheCalix]

I stopped playing Dark Souls a few hours in because I didn't feel challenged.

That would be because I had gotten so good at Demon's Souls.

Shame. They'll have to crank the difficulty up (somehow) on Demon's Souls 2 to really get me.

Man, hats off to you then.  That damn dual gargoyle with the axe tail you could hack off convinced me that I needed to uninstall Dark Souls before I broke something.  The thing in is, I felt that one boss was harder than any I fought in Demon Souls. 

[murdoc]

I stopped playing Dark Souls a few hours in because I didn't feel challenged.

That would be because I had gotten so good at Demon's Souls.

Shame. They'll have to crank the difficulty up (somehow) on Demon's Souls 2 to really get me.

Man, hats off to you then.  That damn dual gargoyle with the axe tail you could hack off convinced me that I needed to uninstall Dark Souls before I broke something.  The thing in is, I felt that one boss was harder than any I fought in Demon Souls. 

It's always strange to me which Demon gave who the most trouble. I killed the two Gargoyles the first try, but the Capra Demon? Fuck that guy.

[Arinon]

After beating Demon's Souls a couple of times I left the game feeling it was still reasonably hard.  Maybe I should give it another whirl.  I remember Flame Lurker and that god-damned spider being real bitches.

Just finished a replay of Dark Souls this week though and bent that game over hard.  Smough and Ornstein was the only fight with some real teeth to it still.  Can't wait for Dark 2.

[Yegolev]

I suppose Capra was the hardest one for me, but it's more fair to say that it was the combination of Capra, his dogs and his broom closet that was hard.

I cheesed that flame spider so hard in Demon's.  Cheesed Tower Knight as well, and I don't feel too bad about it.  I'll go back sooner or later.

[bhodi]

<Recycling an old joke>

Capra Demon, more like Camera Demon, amirite?

[Yegolev]

If I had the skills, I'd edit up a GIF of the supply closet from UHF opening, and inside is Capra and his dogs.

[Margalis]

Dark Souls is the type of game where I think it makes sense to make it more difficult for yourself by not leveling, using a weird build, not using armor, etc. Generally I don't like the response to "this game is too easy" being "well then stop using the game systems to their fullest" but in the case of Dark Souls it seems more acceptable for whatever reason.

I used the Gargoyle Tail Axe just because I thought it looked cool, even though I had the Black Knight Sword which was basically better in every way.

[Yegolev]

Black Knight Sword is better than most anything in most any situation, once you learn how to use it.  Which doesn't take long.

[Nonentity]

Some short gameplay footage bits from E3

Dual Swordsman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKZfVnaooqc
Warrior - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtmY86i0ZH8
Temple Knight - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDBt00Z9iIg
Sorcerer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu9vgT13MV8

[Yegolev]

Mmmm.  Getting a bad feeling.

[bhodi]

Could I get maybe something new? At this point, I'm feeling like they stumbled on solid gold randomly and are terrified of changing anything and losing the magic. The damn thing looks like DLC, not a new game.

[Yegolev]

It's subtly different in a bad way.  I don't like the big flash from arrow hits, assuming those are normal arrows.  Makes me think they are slipping into typical JP crap.

[Nonentity]

looks like someone machine translated this article - http://www.gamekult.com/actu/zoom-dark-souls-ii-A108297.html

and we got PC as lead platform, 60 FPS

[Yegolev]

DOOM I SAY

[jakonovski]

A preview with some details. I don't like the "get invaded while hollow" part. What's the value of forcing people offline if they don't want to get griefed? I predict it will be changed in a patch once they see player numbers falling when the catasses get rolling with level billion characters.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/18/4743612/dark-souls-2-hands-on-beta-preview-tgs

[Falconeer]

I originally posted this in the wrong thread. But this is a new trailer, right?

[schild]

Now that I have a new graphics card, I desperately want a patch for the original Dark Souls to remove GFWL :(

[Falconeer]

The first review is out on a German magazine, and someone at NeoGAF translated and recapped it. There's plenty of spoilers, most of them under a spoiler tag. Open at your risk. The score is 90%.

A few hightlights:

- Fast Travel available from the beginning of the game
- Archery and Magic use up Stamina
- There's a new kind of magic, on top of the previous ones
- You can respec through a rare item
- Combat is as good as usual

[Moaner]

I'm really looking forward to this but I need to beat Ornstein and Smough, and then the rest of the game, before I pick up the sequel.  Fuck Ornstein and Smough.