Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

[Abagadro]

If they are smart they will get several episodes of Rosencrantz and Gildenstern type stuff related to CA2.

[eldaec]

I doubt the thing that is broken about the title will stay broken for long.

And I agree they could change and should change the format, but this is like Voyager's year of hell storyline. Great opportunity that these types of tv writers are unlikely to take.

[Abagadro]

Depends on how engaged Fiege is on the TV side.

[Khaldun]

I could see the show still being basically the same in most respects but quite different in a few ways,

[Velorath]

I doubt the thing that is broken about the title will stay broken for long.

Guardians of the Galaxy is unlikely to deal with S.H.I.E.L.D. in any depth and neither is Ant Man, so unless the TV show itself fixes things you're looking at Avengers 2 in May of 2015, or Cap 3 which is supposedly the May 2016 movie going up against the Superman/Batman movie.

[jgsugden]

I am looking forward to seeing what they do on Tuesday's episode and seeing how it ties into what we learned in Cap II.  To me, it looks like they planned out the entire season of SHIELD around the events of Cap II.  Whedon had the script of Cap II in hand before this season's second episode was written.  I think the events of Cap II take place DURING next week's episode (perhaps during the next several episodes), based upon the 'on next week's episode' scenes we saw at the end of the episode.  I would not be surprised if the season finale ends with the announcement that S.H.I.E.L.D. is disbanding. 

As for ties to GotG - I think we'll see something as a tie in (assuming there is a season 2), but it will be more like the Thor II tie in than the Cap II tie in - a peripheral one episode that hits something about the movie, perhaps involving a 'past mission' investigating the 'origin' of Starlord...

[HaemishM]

It's a lot easier to hypothesize who the Clairvoyant is after you see Cap2.  My guess?

See my Spoilered guess above. After Winter Soldier, it would almost be stupid for it NOT to be him, but we'll see.

[Khaldun]

Yeah. If that's not it, then they are missing a serious chance to make the plotting somewhat economically and to converge the series and the movies rather naturally.

[eldaec]

The biggest thing in that answer's favour is Coulsen continually dropping lines to the effect that SHIELD has never come across a clairvoyant and doesn't believe that is in the space of possible superpowers.

This supports your guess because firstly your guess doesn't involve an actual clairvoyant, and second SHIELD having a 'no such thing as a clairvoyant' policy makes sense given what we learn in cap2.

THAT SAID I'm not getting my hopes up. I'd like to be wrong, but still thinking it'll be something dumb like the little brother of that guy you mentioned in the spoiler.


PS. I think we need a rule that the statute of limitations expires for cap2 spoilers as soon as the next episode of this show airs.

[Ghambit]

The biggest thing in that answer's favour is Coulsen continually dropping lines to the effect that SHIELD has never come across a clairvoyant and doesn't believe that is in the space of possible superpowers.

[jgsugden]

[Lakov_Sanite]

They will get away with it by saying that they have unlocked human potential for evolution.  Possibly through activating some dormant gene, they can call it the cross gene.

[jgsugden]

They will get away with it by saying that they have unlocked human potential for evolution.  Possibly through activating some dormant gene, they can call it the cross gene.

Although there are a lot of ways they can brush up against the edge of the mutant concept and perhaps get away with it, I don't think they'll go that far.  I think they'll kep their distance as it is an unnecessary risk.  Why risk angering another studio and risking litigation when you can steer clear and still essentially do the same thing?

[eldaec]

The biggest thing in that answer's favour is Coulsen continually dropping lines to the effect that SHIELD has never come across a clairvoyant and doesn't believe that is in the space of possible superpowers.

I don't see anything in that spoiler that requires clairvoyancy to exist in the MCU?

Also I don't see anything there that is a spoiler, given the widely discussed promo pictures of quicksilver and scarlet witch.

Unless you go the whole hog with the actual X-Men organisations, being a mutant is just a throwaway origin line.

[Khaldun]

As far as I can tell, every single "superpower" in the Cinematic MCU that isn't immediately technological in Earth terms (Iron Man, Falcon, Captain America) ties back to the Asgardians or Infinity Gems. Hulk is a result of Cap and maybe, I wouldn't be surprised, the Tesseract interacting w/Cap's formula.

They're doling out the superpowers way more slowly because they know, quite appropriately, that a world where there are supers everywhere will be quite quickly visually and narratively totally unlike our own. You can't keep a cinematic universe synchronized w/21st C. world if you keep letting more and more and more people wear spandex, destroying cities, etc.

[Ironwood]

Man, Cap 2 just ruined this show.  Just when it was starting to get interesting.

[Velorath]

Probably doesn't help that you folks in the U.K. got Cap 2 over a week early, but I think are still behind a couple episodes of the TV show.

[eldaec]

We only just got to TAHITI over here - the 3rd episode since the restart. I think the delay is because British viewers hate that thing US shows do where they randomly only put out one new episode a month. We'll have caught up by the end of the season. Probably.

But it is kind of fun watching it assuming everyone is a double agent.

I suspect my mind is writing more depth into it than the writers did.

[Ironwood]

Oh Man, we were really, really wondering who The Clairvoyant was !

*watches Captain America*

Oh.  Oh, Ok.  That's fucking lame.

[eldaec]

I was assuming something much lamer. Assuming it is who we think it is, that spoiler improves the show immeasurably for me.

[Ironwood]

Really ?  Even tho it's, er, been dealt with outwith the show also ?

Because, you know, that's fucking lame.

[jgsugden]

Do you remember what Widow told Cap when he discovered her at the terminal early in the movie? I'm pretty sure the Clairvoyant understood that lesson as well, if that was the Clairvoyant.

 We saw one battle on screen. There were thousands of others to be fought. The show will bring us more.

[Ironwood]

No.

 

[eldaec]

You could do something from here with the idea that the clairvoyant has 'gone viral' and is now 'in the cloud'.

I hate myself for typing that.

But I wouldn't bet against the CA trilogy finishing with cap finding Bucky and them finding a way to trick the 'clairvoyant' into downloading himself into something that can be destroyed.

Thinking like an elite holywood writer you see.

[Ironwood]

But, but, but, No-one would ever use The Cloud for evil.

Ever.

I won't HEAR OF IT.

[jgsugden]

One little tidbit we did not mention: Widow uploaded all of the S.H.I.E.L.D. secrets on the interwebz, supposedly.  That includes 'Coulson lives', if true.  If anyone was going to have that information overhauled and analyzed, it would be Stark.  That means that Stark should know that Coulson lives.  I wonder if that'll be addressed...

[Lakov_Sanite]

Yeh about that whole internet upload thing.  Did they just give out super advanced technology to anyone with a web browser?

[jgsugden]

Yeh about that whole internet upload thing.  Did they just give out super advanced technology to anyone with a web browser?

Yeah... that bothered me.  And considering the surveillance they did... talk about free porn.

We have a guest star for the season finale that probably makes a lot of sense, and that we were hoping to see, but thought we might not get...

http://www.vulture.com/2014/04/jackson-on-agents-of-shield-finale.html?mid=twitter_vulture

[Ironwood]

The other 'mystery' about Coulson also got pretty well tied up too.

I mean, really, I may as well have just browsed Wiki for the episodes and then watched Cap 2 to figure out why.

This show is crazy the way they've gone about it.  Really.  It makes me giggle.

[tazelbain]

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: The MCU leftovers.

[jgsugden]

I think the rest of the season will have a life outside of Cap, but inspired by the events of the movie.  I am eager to see it, and am not disappointed at all.  I don't see the reason for the negativity right now.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Sam Jackson confirmed he'll be in the season finale of the show.

[Ironwood]

Yes, he did.  About 4 posts up.

[Ghambit]

I think the rest of the season will have a life outside of Cap, but inspired by the events of the movie.  I am eager to see it, and am not disappointed at all.  I don't see the reason for the negativity right now.

It will be interesting to see what the ratings numbers look like for this week till the end of the season.  It's a boon for Disney any way you slice it though I think, even if it's just a relative blip in the greater Marvel ledger.  All of these IPs feed off one another.  If it works we'll see a lot more cookie-cutter TV/movie crossover confusion.

[eldaec]

Possibly, but I think most of those other IPs are still too busy trying to figure out how to build a sustainable movie serial. TV tie ins are a way down the line.

Star Wars is only thing you'd imagine could pull off the same trick in the short term. And that would presumably be more expensive than MAoS.