Gravity

[Lakov_Sanite]

PS.  I see what you are saying medium and while I may still think you are insane I wonder if people realize how many 49 year old don't look good or if they see an older lady and think "they must be 50!" but in reality they are late 30's.  Bullock is really holding up well and her work is heads and above anything she did 20 years ago which is very impressive.

[Margalis]

I assumed you meant that you had written some sort of statement indicating you would be sending people joke pm's to see who took that bait.  Instead you keep sending me douchey pm's and when you get called on it you say after that fact that it was all a joke, got it.

Do you not understand how time works?

You posted this PM well after I made that post. You might even say that I made the post "before" yours. Highly technical lingo.

But keep complaining about how I'm being a douche. Lol. That's your objection here? That after two days of thread-shitting and attacking me personally because I DIDN'T LIKE A MOVIE YOU LIKED that I'm a douche.

K champ. You're totally not being a douche. Yep.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Well enough chatter, time for bed.

[Margalis]

I think some folks need to take a nice walk and have a warm bath and light some incense. There is nothing wrong with nerdfights per se but there is something wrong when they start to get this myopic.

Maybe this is crazy but I read the Movies forum because I want to read other people's opinions on movies and sometimes share my own.

I'm not interested in reading a bunch of people shit-posting snidely over and over again about how talking about movies in the movies forum is bad. That seems frankly stupid and counter-productive to having a movies forum.

I don't have any beef with Lakov other than that a bug apparently crawled up his ass and he decided the movies forum needed to stop being about movies and start being about him impressing himself with his clever retorts and emoticons.

[Margalis]

3 PM's in one day, I'm the belle of the ball.

Maybe you should start a "PMs I got" newsletter. I'm sure everyone is endlessly fascinated!

Whine more dipshit. (Like I need to say that!)

[Margalis]

Lol.

Are you really going back and editing your posts to completely change their content from insults to talk about the movie to make it look like you've been acting reasonably the entire time?

Ha ha. Fuck me. Well-played.

This guy! I have to say, that may be genius or stupid but it takes balls. I'll give you that. (Clever observers will note that my posts are now quoting text that has mysteriously vanished)

I could keep arguing on the internet but I think another good thing about gravity was that only one scene felt like "cheap" 3d having had something fly at your face which is a big step forward for 3d movies.

OH MY GOD I'M DYING.

"I could keep arguing." You did keep arguing - then you went back later and completely replaced your posts to make it look like you took the high road. Lulz.

Edit: Think we're done with this retarded drama. I shall not post again, unless I have something on-topic to add. Apologies for this bit of nonsense.

Edit2: This thread reads completely bonkers now.

[MediumHigh]

Lakov can keep his hard-on for Sandra Bullock and this Movie. Doesn't offend my life besides giving me a good laugh. What did offend my life was seeing this movie. Did I mention that I was dozing in and out of sleep and missed absolutely nothing? Conscious effort to stay awake is what damned me. If I had merely snored I would have saved myself from the bad 3D and Sandra Bullock taking off her suit...

[MediumHigh]

Lol.

Are you really going back and editing your posts to completely change their content from insults to talk about the movie to make it look like you've been acting reasonably the entire time?

Ha ha. Fuck me. Well-played.

This guy! I have to say, that may be genius or stupid but it takes balls. I'll give you that. (Clever observers will note that my posts are now quoting text that has mysteriously vanished)


OH MY GOD I'M DYING.

"I could keep arguing." You did keep arguing - then you went back later and completely replaced your posts to make it look like you took the high road. Lulz.

Lakov thinks he is one of the cool kids, which is fine since the internet hides our basements.

[Khaldun]

I think some folks need to take a nice walk and have a warm bath and light some incense. There is nothing wrong with nerdfights per se but there is something wrong when they start to get this myopic.

Maybe this is crazy but I read the Movies forum because I want to read other people's opinions on movies and sometimes share my own.

I'm not interested in reading a bunch of people shit-posting snidely over and over again about how talking about movies in the movies forum is bad. That seems frankly stupid and counter-productive to having a movies forum.

I don't have any beef with Lakov other than that a bug apparently crawled up his ass and he decided the movies forum needed to stop being about movies and start being about him impressing himself with his clever retorts and emoticons.

I'm actually sympathetic to your general point but everybody's gotta cultivate that XKCD point where you realize you are in way too deep and way too emotionally engaged over a basically trivial argument with people whose minds you are not going to change.

[lamaros]

I saw this in 2D, I see no need for 3D.

[Trippy]

Well enough chatter, time for bed.

Stop retconning your posts.

[Brofellos]

Movie was bullshit

[Samwise]

I saw this in 2D, I see no need for 3D.

I hate 3D but saw it in IMAX 3D because I was going with friends.  Afterward one of the first things I said was "I don't think that movie would have worked at all without the 3D IMAX gimmick."

This movie was ENTIRELY about the cinematography.  As far as that went I thought it was fantastic.  Definitely don't regret my $18 IMAX ticket.

[Paelos]

The movie forum is becoming better than the sports forum for DRAMA LLAMA.

[shiznitz]

I thought this movie was fantastic.  It deserves serious Oscar consideration.  It was obviously meticulously made, the subject was fresh, it was edited well, annd the soundtrack was perfectly minimal yet effective.  Sure there were some Hollywood tropes but they were small (woman who lost a child has to find the will to live, the fetal position shot when she finally gets to safety was too long) but there was a lot to like.  It would be nice if a box office success won Best Picture.

[Ironwood]

I thought this movie was fantastic.  It deserves serious Oscar consideration.  It was obviously meticulously made, the subject was fresh, it was edited well, annd the soundtrack was perfectly minimal yet effective.  Sure there were some Hollywood tropes but they were small (woman who lost a child has to find the will to live, the fetal position shot when she finally gets to safety was too long) but there was a lot to like.  It would be nice if a box office success won Best Picture.

Obvious Troll is Obvious.

[tazelbain]

I agree with every word.


This guy is seems like a Filmmaker first. Not a storyteller, not a puzzle-maker, not special effects aficionado, not a genre superfan.  They all do make great movies. But Alfonso Cuarón seems to be in love with movie making itself.

[Khaldun]

I thought it was good. Not great, not whatever, but good. The whole was more than the sum of its parts.

I thought the Chinese station entering the atmosphere was gilding the lily, though. I could have done with her just struggling to keep from burning up after getting in the escape pod.

I did catch the scene with the ropes/Clooney letting go as being somewhat wrong in some way.

I almost think it would have been a good silent film--it has something of the cinematographic spirit of early silents.

[Samwise]

I could've done with a bit less soundtrack too.  Not that it was overdone, but having dead silence in the dramatic exterior POV shots (and bringing in the sound as we switch to a POV someplace that has air) instead of underscoring everything with dramatic music might have actually made it more tense.

[lamaros]

The music and dialogue and plot jumped between good/great and ham-fisted, which is why I think it was just a good film and not a great one.


It was a great film with just a splash too much formula over the top. It just wasn't brave enough to hit its heights.

But then if it was braver and 'better' I doubt it would have done as well financially, so...

[Samwise]

I really liked the ending scene.  It was definitely not subtle, but like everything else in the movie, it was beautifully constructed.

[lamaros]

I really liked the ending scene.  It was definitely not subtle, but like everything else in the movie, it was beautifully constructed.

The idea was ok, but it was too drawn out and over-emphasised. If you're too stupid to get the significance in the first place then are you really going to appreciate it when it condescends to you?

I also would have liked it more if she was then eaten by an alligator or something. It lessens the philosophical power if you make it too much about her as an individual.

[Tannhauser]

LOL yeah lets get you to Hollywood right away.  Eaten by an alligator.  Classic.

[lamaros]

LOL yeah lets get you to Hollywood right away.  Eaten by an alligator.  Classic.

 

I think you missed a point there, but just chortle on imagining whatever you like to think I meant by that. :)

[Samwise]

The idea was ok, but it was too drawn out and over-emphasised. If you're too stupid to get the significance in the first place then are you really going to appreciate it when it condescends to you?

I didn't see it as condescension so much as taking its time and letting us soak it in.  This movie was really all about the pretty, and that whole sequence worked really well for me, not on the level of communicating the rather obvious idea (which could have been done in a few seconds), but taking that time to communicate the physical sensation of what she was experiencing.  I was so into it that I literally felt weighed down in my seat.  Whoever said earlier in the thread that it's more like a theme park thrill ride nailed it, I think.

[lamaros]

Hmm, I wonder if the 3D played into any of that. There wasn't much spectacle in the landing/swimming/etc. in the 2D version.

[Samwise]

Like I said, I can't imagine much of the movie working without the 3D IMAX thing.  Especially the first-person bits; I can't imagine those being the same if they aren't filling your field of vision.

[lamaros]

Like I said, I can't imagine much of the movie working without the 3D IMAX thing.  Especially the first-person bits; I can't imagine those being the same if they aren't filling your field of vision.

I can't imagine not throwing up in the first person bits if I'd gone for 3D though, so I guess you win some and lose some. (I have slight hearing loss in one ear from and it makes me more susceptible to motion sickness of that sort I think.)

[Lakov_Sanite]

I'll third the theme park analogy.  This is a great movie but it's not a style of movie that has been made in the last 20 years. It's all visual and visceral and I can't imagine it ever working in a 2d format.  One reviewer said this would be the perfect movie to show off at the smithsonion or another museum and I'm inclined to agree.

[Ghambit]

I really liked the ending scene.  It was definitely not subtle, but like everything else in the movie, it was beautifully constructed.

The idea was ok, but it was too drawn out and over-emphasised. If you're too stupid to get the significance in the first place then are you really going to appreciate it when it condescends to you?

I also would have liked it more if she was then eaten by an alligator or something. It lessens the philosophical power if you make it too much about her as an individual.

I thought that particular scene was weak until one attached some meaning to it, but the meaning I attached was more akin to man leaving the sea to walk on all fours, then on two legs, etc.  In this case   As if surviving space created an evolution.  Most folk just slap the 'birth' tag on it and walk away, but it was more complex then that.  It was in a way a nod to the opening scene of 2001.

[lamaros]

What? Who? It's obvious. There's no need to attach it, it's there screaming at you...

Maybe I was wrong: maybe there is an audience that feels clever for being hit over the head.

[Ironwood]

I thought this movie was fantastic.  It deserves serious Oscar consideration.  It was obviously meticulously made, the subject was fresh, it was edited well, annd the soundtrack was perfectly minimal yet effective.  Sure there were some Hollywood tropes but they were small (woman who lost a child has to find the will to live, the fetal position shot when she finally gets to safety was too long) but there was a lot to like.  It would be nice if a box office success won Best Picture.

Obvious Troll is Obvious.

OK, I have to apologise here, I thought I was in the Pacific Rim thread.  You're welcome.

Sorry.

[murdoc]

I thought this movie was fantastic.  It deserves serious Oscar consideration.  It was obviously meticulously made, the subject was fresh, it was edited well, annd the soundtrack was perfectly minimal yet effective.  Sure there were some Hollywood tropes but they were small (woman who lost a child has to find the will to live, the fetal position shot when she finally gets to safety was too long) but there was a lot to like.  It would be nice if a box office success won Best Picture.

I completely agree with this. Cuaron did an amazing job shooting this movie. The scene where Bullock spins away and the camera follows out to her, catching her spinning and then slowly starting to spin with her was amazing. Gave a real sense of her disorientation and how she gathered herself again. The camera work and long takes made this movie for me.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I really liked the ending scene.  It was definitely not subtle, but like everything else in the movie, it was beautifully constructed.

The idea was ok, but it was too drawn out and over-emphasised. If you're too stupid to get the significance in the first place then are you really going to appreciate it when it condescends to you?

I also would have liked it more if she was then eaten by an alligator or something. It lessens the philosophical power if you make it too much about her as an individual.

I thought that particular scene was weak until one attached some meaning to it, but the meaning I attached was more akin to man leaving the sea to walk on all fours, then on two legs, etc.  In this case   As if surviving space created an evolution.  Most folk just slap the 'birth' tag on it and walk away, but it was more complex then that.  It was in a way a nod to the opening scene of 2001.

[Samwise]

Maybe that part of it was more subtle than lamaros and I thought it was.