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Miasma
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The reviews on that site list quite a few major problems. I always take online reviews with a generous helping of salt but if patterns emerge then they're probably true. So I take it you are writing off the 18 positive scores and 78 average review score as paid shill reviews because 5 ppl gave it bad reviews?? Definately a pattern emerging there. How exactly did you take my mild comment and decide that I was a paranoid nut case who sees paid conspiracies everywhere? I simply read the reviews, there weren't many so I read them all. Some people give five stars to anything, even if they had to rma the product and some people give one star for everything because they are hateful assholes so going strictly by stars isn't very useful. That site doesn't evel let you give a one or two star rating unless you bought it from their website and the staff decide it's okay after reviewing your statement so it's going to be positive bias. The people who actually wanted to use the thumb buttons and had to install the software found it buggy and the buttons themselves difficult to push. Most of the five star people hadn't even tried to use the buttons or install the software. Edit: Hahah, I read some reviews on newegg (which repeat the same pattern of bad software and hard to push buttons) and one of the guys who gave it five stars literally gets shocked by it every so often. This idiot gave an item giving him an electric shock five stars!
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« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 01:42:24 PM by Miasma »
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Phred
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The reviews on that site list quite a few major problems. I always take online reviews with a generous helping of salt but if patterns emerge then they're probably true. So I take it you are writing off the 18 positive scores and 78 average review score as paid shill reviews because 5 ppl gave it bad reviews?? Definately a pattern emerging there. How exactly did you take my mild comment and decide that I was a paranoid nut case who sees paid conspiracies everywhere? I simply read the reviews, there weren't many so I read them all. Some people give five stars to anything, even if they had to rma the product and some people give one star for everything because they are hateful assholes so going strictly by stars isn't very useful. That site doesn't evel let you give a one or two star rating unless you bought it from their website and the staff decide it's okay after reviewing your statement so it's going to be positive bias. The people who actually wanted to use the thumb buttons and had to install the software found it buggy and the buttons themselves difficult to push. Most of the five star people hadn't even tried to use the buttons or install the software. Edit: Hahah, I read some reviews on newegg (which repeat the same pattern of bad software and hard to push buttons) and one of the guys who gave it five stars literally gets shocked by it every so often. This idiot gave an item giving him an electric shock five stars! There weren't many because you didnt click the read all 27 member reviews link I suppose.
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MisterNoisy
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I kinda like OCN for reviews, but you may have to do a lot of digging. Here's one of their poster's lengthy review of the M90, and he makes mention of some of the issues mentioned in the other reviews (side buttons out of the way or hard to press, software was crap, but much-improved in current release, etc)
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Miasma
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There weren't many because you didnt click the read all 27 member reviews link I suppose.
I did click that. Twenty seven is my idea of "not many". The newegg reviews have over one hundred for the same item, the g9x has over nine hundred, that's too many to read all of them.
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naum
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Probably will draw scorn here for this, but the Apple Magic Mouse is the best mouse ever. Why? Gestures. Scroll with inertia (though when on Windows, scroll speed is not that variate). Easy side scrolling (yes, I use apps where this comes in handy). Swipe left goes back a page, swipe right goes forward a page. Two finger + double tap (can differentiate between "tap" and "click") shows desktop with active app clickable icons (variant of alt/option + tab). Add-on tools can let you define your own crazy gestures but the basics suffice for me. Using a middle click wheel (or worse, the nub on the old Apple mouse) feels barbaric after I got used to this mouse.
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Rasix
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Do you have any trackball suggestions?
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Tmon
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You guys have some fancy fucking mice man, shit. All I have is a *checks label* a Logitech G3. Do they even make these anymore?  My Logitech mouse died a horrible death a while back due to WoT induced Hulk Smash! moment so I decided to replace it with something that seemed like it would better fit with my inability to type without looking at the keyboard. It was a wonderful plan except I learned that my thumb is too inflexible to use more than the first row of buttons easily. Should the thing ever die I'll probably go back to a logitech
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Tarami
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I've got a couple of G9x mice and love the shape/feel with the smaller clip-on body attached. Everything else out there is just a bit too chunky for me. Annoyingly, you have to flip the G9x over to toggle between flywheel and click scrolling (the button for that is on the bottom). I actually stockpiled two G9x just in case the model would go out of production.  Sadly very few mice nowadays are designed to be "clawed". And yes, the toggle button isn't optimally placed, but then again, I can't really figure out where to put it where it wouldn't be in the way yet be more accessible. Besides, I only use the toggle every six months or so. You get used to clicking while holding your finger very, very still. The only thing I feel it's lacking is a normal middle button. Creative made a Fatality-branded mouse some years ago that had three+thumb buttons AND a scroll wheel. It was silly awesome, but of pretty poor build quality. It met its end during a CoD4 game. 
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Pennilenko
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I actually stockpiled two G9x just in case the model would go out of production.  Sadly very few mice nowadays are designed to be "clawed". I've been thinking about picking up a G9x because I am still using an original G9, without the "x", and it has been going strong for almost four years, but its taken to occasionally double clicking. I'm not broken up about it because this thing probably has five to six thousand gaming hours on it. Shit, I've used it so much the rubbery grip on the wider clip on has nearly worn off at the palm and thumb rest. This is literally the only mouse in twenty years that has fit my hand so perfectly.
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Quinton
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I really miss the old pre-mousewheel non-ergonomic logitech wedge mice. I'd like a mouse where the middle button wasn't a damn wheel...
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Trippy
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I really miss the old pre-mousewheel non-ergonomic logitech wedge mice. I'd like a mouse where the middle button wasn't a damn wheel...
Yup. As a decent work around I've set my Logitech tilting mouse wheels to be a middle mouse button*. That allows me to activate a middle mouse button without also scrolling at the same time or severely straining my middle finger (most mice wheels take a lot of force to push down). Unfortunately that drastically limits my choice of mice for doing real work with. * Edit: I mean I set the tilt left and right on the mouse wheel to be middle buttons
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« Last Edit: February 28, 2013, 10:40:14 PM by Trippy »
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Signe
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I got the Naga thingy without the gazillions of buttons on the side and it'll be delivered today. I was going to return the other but my sister's dog ate the box. To return it, the box must be intact. I could cry but I won't. Now I have a dying mouse, a mouse I can't use and a mouse on it's way. Why does life hate me? 
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Hammond
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Got two Logitech Performance MX mice one at home one at work. Previous generation had this nice charging station which was nice and simple. Newer one I have to plugin although it plugs in on the front so it looks like a standard mouse. Also it has one of the best micro USB cables I have seen. Its 6 foot and I usually end up traveling with it and use it to charge my kindle, cell phone, gps. I have never had a delay on the wireless on these two however I had a older Logitech mouse keyboard combo that had the delay that others were complaining about. That lasted like a week before I broke the keyboard in half and plugged in my old Microsoft wired keyboard.
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satael
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I got the Naga thingy without the gazillions of buttons on the side and it'll be delivered today. I was going to return the other but my sister's dog ate the box. To return it, the box must be intact. I could cry but I won't. Now I have a dying mouse, a mouse I can't use and a mouse on it's way. Why does life hate me?  Atleast it's a peripheral item like a mouse and not something like a graphics card 
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Sky
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Probably will draw scorn here for this, but the Apple Magic Mouse is the best mouse ever. Why? Gestures. Scroll with inertia (though when on Windows, scroll speed is not that variate). Easy side scrolling (yes, I use apps where this comes in handy). Swipe left goes back a page, swipe right goes forward a page. Two finger + double tap (can differentiate between "tap" and "click") shows desktop with active app clickable icons (variant of alt/option + tab). Add-on tools can let you define your own crazy gestures but the basics suffice for me. Using a middle click wheel (or worse, the nub on the old Apple mouse) feels barbaric after I got used to this mouse. Yes. But right click detection sucks on it. I hate browsing the web at home because swiping back and forth between pages is so good it makes using the navigation buttons or context menus barbaric. I wouldn't use it for gaming, the few times I've tried (minecraft), it's been horrid. I really miss the old pre-mousewheel non-ergonomic logitech wedge mice. I'd like a mouse where the middle button wasn't a damn wheel...
That was good for UO, I set the middle button to double click. There was a lot of double clicking in that game.
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« Last Edit: March 01, 2013, 09:27:27 AM by Sky »
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Nightblade
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Does their software still suck donkey balls? When I tried it with a CM Sentinal it was the worst software I've ever seen for a mouse. It didnt stay resident and every time you ran it it set your mouse speed to retardedly slow. Just horrible design. If the Spawn is anything like the Sentinal it's a large hands only mouse as well. Way too big for my hands. Yeah, that was patched a long long time ago. Been using this thing for years and I practically live on the computer.
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naum
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Probably will draw scorn here for this, but the Apple Magic Mouse is the best mouse ever. Why? Gestures. Scroll with inertia (though when on Windows, scroll speed is not that variate). Easy side scrolling (yes, I use apps where this comes in handy). Swipe left goes back a page, swipe right goes forward a page. Two finger + double tap (can differentiate between "tap" and "click") shows desktop with active app clickable icons (variant of alt/option + tab). Add-on tools can let you define your own crazy gestures but the basics suffice for me. Using a middle click wheel (or worse, the nub on the old Apple mouse) feels barbaric after I got used to this mouse. Yes. But right click detection sucks on it. I hate browsing the web at home because swiping back and forth between pages is so good it makes using the navigation buttons or context menus barbaric. I wouldn't use it for gaming, the few times I've tried (minecraft), it's been horrid. I really miss the old pre-mousewheel non-ergonomic logitech wedge mice. I'd like a mouse where the middle button wasn't a damn wheel...
That was good for UO, I set the middle button to double click. There was a lot of double clicking in that game. I've not experienced any problems with "right click" detection -- if I click anywhere on the right side of the mouse, "right click" action is enabled. At Christmas, started using a trackpad on home iMac -- it is incredibly more efficient in "browse" mode (more gestures, taps as opposed to clicks) but dragging and dropping objects/text not as efficient, though not as cumbersome as initially.
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Signe
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Naga Hex guys... do you use that booster thingy, too? Sorry. I think I might be confusing one mouse with another mouse. I have a fucking bag of mice. 
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« Last Edit: March 07, 2013, 01:22:14 PM by Signe »
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Nebu
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In case anyone wants a Logitech mouse, they are the Gold Box deal of the day for Monday, March 11th. Up to 50% off on Logitech mice and keyboards.
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goishen
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I just got through ordering a Razer Abyssus last night to replace my GigaByte GM-M6880. I'll let you know when it comes in, but I think I made the right choice. (I hope)
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