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Merusk
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Having spent the last 20 years rooting for the Browns, Steelers, Dallas, Washington and half-heartedly for the Bengals I would like to announce that in the 2014-5 season I will be rooting for the Saints with gusto.
Make your bets now.
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Shannow
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Have we accounted for all our Bears fans today?
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Nevermore
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Surprising no one Schiano and the GM are out in Tampa.
Oh, thank the football gods. Now we just need Ireland to go in Miami. |
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Jerry Jones has to put some feelers out first to find out if there any any coaches left dumb enough to work for him.
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Paelos
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Jerry Jones has to put some feelers out first to find out if there any any coaches left dumb enough to work for him.
Not any ones that can win. He could hire Lane Kiffin so he and his Dad can be reunited again. |
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Jerry Jones has to put some feelers out first to find out if there any any coaches left dumb enough to work for him.
Not any ones that can win. He could hire Lane Kiffin so he and his Dad can be reunited again. That would be glorious. |
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Fordel
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In case you missed the PLAY OF THE DAY.
I still do not understand how this happens, at the NFL level. |
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K9
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Having spent the last 20 years rooting for the Browns, Steelers, Dallas, Washington and half-heartedly for the Bengals I would like to announce that in the 2014-5 season I will be rooting for the Saints with gusto.
Make your bets now.
The team with about -$16M in cap space? Have we accounted for all our Bears fans today?
Still here, feeling a bit glum. |
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In case you missed the PLAY OF THE DAY.
I still do not understand how this happens, at the NFL level. Yeah well when it involves the qb, who knows if that was a fumble or a tuck thing? And then if someone would have hit the packer picking it up it would have been unnecessary roughness. So really... I can't say I am shocked. |
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Paelos
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You play until a whistle. Regardless.
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Surlyboi
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At least tag the guy.
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Tannhauser
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How is that a fumble? Oh, right Packers.  |
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Paelos
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It's a fumble in every game now. They let that go more often than not.
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Tannhauser
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A fumble that sails almost 20 yards? Seems legit.
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Paelos
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If you are hit with the hand going backward on the ball, it's going to go forward.
They reviewed it, it wasn't close. The ball being out isn't really in dispute.
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sickrubik
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Did you watch the game? The bears defender slaps the ball out of his hand before making forward motion. It was a fumble.
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Chimpy
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Did you watch the game? The bears defender slaps the ball out of his hand before making forward motion. It was a fumble.
The defender also pushed his arm forward which by sheer fluke of chance hit the ball square on and sent it forward instead of up/down/caddywumpus. |
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sickrubik
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Yeah. I can't get mad at the defenders for thinking it was an incomplete pass, but TAG THE PLAYER ANYWAY. For the same reason that Boykin kept playing is the same reason that SOME defender should run up and tag him. Just. In. Case.
It's more proof of the unprincipled play in the NFL these days. Hits over tackles, etc.
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Nevermore
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It looked to me like Boykin initially sprints to the ball thinking it was live, but didn't see anyone else acting like the play was still live so he gave up on it and just picked the ball up to hand to the official. Then Rogers realizes there was no whistle so probably said something like 'Dude, run!' and thus Green Bay gets a freebie.
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Fordel
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Basically, I'd expect that kind of silly from a little league game, not full time pro players.
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sickrubik
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It looked to me like Boykin initially sprints to the ball thinking it was live, but didn't see anyone else acting like the play was still live so he gave up on it and just picked the ball up to hand to the official. Then Rogers realizes there was no whistle so probably said something like 'Dude, run!' and thus Green Bay gets a freebie.
Apparently the sideline was radioing to Rodgers like crazy saying the ball was live. |
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Sjofn
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And you just know the refs are watching this unfold, screaming inside their heads, "IT'S STILL LIVE YOU MORONS."
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Fordel
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Are NFL refs not allowed to say the play is still live? Like in Hockey I'll see Refs tell players stuck in the boards to 'Keep it moving' or "Play on, Play on" when they are looking for a whistle.
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Malakili
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Are NFL refs not allowed to say the play is still live? Like in Hockey I'll see Refs tell players stuck in the boards to 'Keep it moving' or "Play on, Play on" when they are looking for a whistle.
They say the play is still live by, you know, not having blown the whistle. When they tell players in hockey to move the puck they are saying "I'm can call you for delay of game if you keep the puck pinned against the boards here." It's a warning, not friendly advice. I'd think saying something would probably benefit one team more than the other too, which is likely something they want to avoid. |
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Cyrrex
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It was remarkable restraint on the refs' part to not blow a whistle. The only problem with that play is that there were only two people on the field (besides the refs) that didn't have their heads up their asses. It was pretty symbolic of a once dominant Bears defense that they pretty much lost their playoff chances because nobody bothered to scoop the damn ball. A Lovie Smith team would have never let that ball sit there. Kinda funny how their offensive/defensive fortunes have reversed so dramatically. And even more strange that Lovie Smith doesn't have a job with some other NFL team right now as a defensive coordinator.
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Malakili
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What with all the firings yesterday I wouldn't be surprised to see Lovie Smith back on the sideline next year.
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HaemishM
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So holy shit, my Packers make the playoffs AND get a home game. THE FUCK? As for that fumbley wumbley, I'm pretty sure that since all turnovers are reviewed, the refs err on the side of "it's a turnover" more often than not since they can review it. Better to get it right after the fact than blow a quick whistle then watch your failure light up the highlight reels for the next two weeks while one fan base blames you for all their collective woes. I think both the Packers and the Eagles are going to lose their home playoff games.
Also, just absolutely tickled pink that 1) the Ravens didn't make the playoffs and 2) there was a few hours there where it looked like FUCKING PITTSBURGH might make the playoffs. I mean, what does it say about this season that a team that start 0-6 still had a shot at a wild card right up until the last minute of the next to last game of the fucking season? It says we don't need any more fucking wild card teams.
I hadn't seen the list of firings until I got here, but it was a bloody one. Chud should not have been fired in Cleveland - he didn't draft Wheedon, who basically proved he's not an NFL QB and he didn't teach Hoyer how not to fucking slide. That team was better than their record indicates. Frazier should have been fired, after taking a playoff team and turning them into a joke with an improved roster. Schwarz should have been fired because his team isn't in the playoffs due solely to lack of discipline - a few less roughing the passer calls and that team wins the division. There's no reason the Packers should have been able to make up the ground on Detroirt (Chicago at least had the excuse of missing Cutler). Schiano not only should have been fired, he should never be allowed to coach again after the complete fucking drama queen trainwreck he made down there. At least Glennon looks a decent QB. I still think Rex Ryan should have been fired last year but somehow that team won 8 games with fucking nothing this year. How soon after the Super Bowl do you think Sanchez gets shitcanned?
I'm still not sure about Shanahan. Clearly there was not a lot going right there this year and being under the salary cap penalty didn't help. The sad part is that RGIII is going to have to start from scratch with a new offensive scheme next year and if he isn't healed, it's going to be rough on the kid. Being hair trigger on that sort of thing with a young talent who is still learning can backfire big time.
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Yeah. I can't get mad at the defenders for thinking it was an incomplete pass, but TAG THE PLAYER ANYWAY. For the same reason that Boykin kept playing is the same reason that SOME defender should run up and tag him. Just. In. Case.
It's more proof of the unprincipled play in the NFL these days. Hits over tackles, etc.
Sounds like proof of "unnecessary roughness" being taken seriously. Doesn't have the ball? 9 time out of 10 any attempt to touch them is late hit, unnecessary roughness, roughing the passer, pass interference, illegal block, etc etc. |
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Paelos
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Are NFL refs not allowed to say the play is still live? Like in Hockey I'll see Refs tell players stuck in the boards to 'Keep it moving' or "Play on, Play on" when they are looking for a whistle.
No, they are not. You know a ball is live because the ref will throw a beanbag where it was fumbled, but in this case it was so far behind the play, nobody could see it. |
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sickrubik
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Yeah. I can't get mad at the defenders for thinking it was an incomplete pass, but TAG THE PLAYER ANYWAY. For the same reason that Boykin kept playing is the same reason that SOME defender should run up and tag him. Just. In. Case.
It's more proof of the unprincipled play in the NFL these days. Hits over tackles, etc.
Sounds like proof of "unnecessary roughness" being taken seriously. Doesn't have the ball? 9 time out of 10 any attempt to touch them is late hit, unnecessary roughness, roughing the passer, pass interference, illegal block, etc etc. Read what I wrote again. Tag the player. Put one hand on him so he's down, just in case. You'll see vets do it all the time. |
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I'm not saying they shouldn't have done that, I just don't blame them for not doing it.
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Paelos
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By rule I think he'd have to be on the ground for a tag to work. He's standing the whole time in that play. You would have to literally walk up to him and hold him, impeding forward progress is my understanding.
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By rule I think he'd have to be on the ground for a tag to work. He's standing the whole time in that play. You would have to literally walk up to him and hold him, impeding forward progress is my understanding.
This. A defender would have had to tackle him since he picked it up while standing there. |
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kaid
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How is that a fumble? Oh, right Packers. Actually if you look at a good close up of it the play was clearly a fumble. Basically the guy trying to sack rodgers hit him from behind the ball was out of his and and he just kinda derp pushed forward flailing combined with the momentum made it look like a lame duck pass attempt. About the only person in position to tell it was a fumble was rodgers and the refs so rodgers was pretty heads up when the whistle was not blowing to tell his player to pick the ball up and run. |
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sickrubik
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By rule I think he'd have to be on the ground for a tag to work. He's standing the whole time in that play. You would have to literally walk up to him and hold him, impeding forward progress is my understanding.
Okay, clearly using "tag" was a bit of an underestimation. The point is that the players did NOTHING when two players, including one of the more intelligent players in the game starts running..... you do SOMETHING. You act like you give a shit. The bears played like shit on at least two huge plays. This one was just the worse of the two. Unprincipled players who gave up. |
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