NFL 2013

[Yegolev]

Peyton's right, cold weather doesn't matter. Especially when they keep turning the ball over.

Hush, you'll make him cry into his pizza.

[sickrubik]

There was only one fucking turnover. The loss was not at all on Peyton's shoulders.

The Broncos D (which I've complained about this season quite a bit) is mediocre at BEST and played a lot worse than that yesterday. Plus Chargers are a better team than their record indicates and Rivers, as usual, is a great QB. I fucking hate him, but he's a great QB.

[Paelos]

And now the Pats control the AFC. I mean it's all coming together for Brady and his band of misfits minus Gronk.

[sickrubik]

We still have more wins than the Pats, and are still ranked as the #1 seed.

Broncos have HOU to OAK to go. Pats have MIA, BAL and CIN to go.

[Trippy]

Fun interactive chart for comparing current QB stats:

http://trynudge.com/index.html?view=Editor&play=NQki9OYgwgq

[Paelos]

We still have more wins than the Pats, and are still ranked as the #1 seed.

Broncos have HOU to OAK to go. Pats have MIA, BAL and CIN to go.

True, but they have the tiebreaker. Win against Miami, and they have the lead with 2 to play.

[sickrubik]

We still have more wins than the Pats, and are still ranked as the #1 seed.

Broncos have HOU to OAK to go. Pats have MIA, BAL and CIN to go.

True, but they have the tiebreaker. Win against Miami, and they have the lead with 2 to play.

Yes, I understand how math works. The Pats have a much harder schedule than the Broncos have, is the point.

[Hoax]

Pats have Bills at home not Bengals, they already lost to Bengals.

AFC seeding from #1 on down is totally up for grabs if you believe that the Broncos are now human and a blueprint for exposing their weaknesses now exists. This week is the first of 3 great ones in terms of games that really matter.

-Pats must put away Miami, which seems far from a given but I expect it. If they don't they could fall out of getting a bye.

-Cincy must beat Steelers in primetime away, which is the exact kind of game Dalton's Bengals have not won often. Favorites. On the road. Primetime. Division opponent. High pressure. If they lose here they could in theory fall pretty far as it will heap pressure on that season finale against Baltimore.

-Ravens have to win in Detroit on MNF and not have that take so much out of them that they can handle the Pats the next week. I think its unlikely that they can win both these games but you never know with that franchise or AFC North teams in general at this time of year.

I suspect that Broncos are going to be just fine sadly since they have a cake walk schedule to finish the year. Denver is barring catastrophe is finishing 13-3, and only the Pats can catch them at that mark and they need two big road wins to do that. Unless Manning chokes again against two of the bottom feeders of the league. The Raiders will try but it being the Raiders they will somehow blow it in the 4th quarter.

*not calk, cake*

[sickrubik]

Pats have Bills at home not Bengals, they already lost to Bengals.

AFC seeding from #1 on down is totally up for grabs if you believe that the Broncos are now human and a blueprint for exposing their weaknesses now exists. This week is the first of 3 great ones in terms of games that really matter.

Woops, yeah, I crossed my wire somewher when looking at schedules.

The blueprint has existed for a while now. I thought the Colts would upset us and was called crazy for it. Our defense has been horrible. Our Run D has been great, but even they played badly last night. Shifting the offense around and missing Bailey has really made things go wonky this season.

I really hope the Broncos nab the #1 seed just so we can advance one round at least, but it's pretty clear we'll at least end up with the #2. The weaknesses that have grown and now are back breaking make me pretty worried for the post season.

I'm still in awe that San Diego played clock management football and kept the ball out of Peyton's hand.

[Paelos]

It's not impossible that SD could be a WC Super Bowl contender

[sickrubik]

It's not impossible that SD could be a WC Super Bowl contender

Not impossible at all. They're a better team than KC.

[Paelos]

The tough factor is they have to go 9-7 and hope Miami doesn't, as I believe the fish have the tiebreaker.

[WayAbvPar]

Their defense is terrible.

[Paelos]

Worst Defense in the league strikes again.

[Tannhauser]

Damn, Dallas your defense and your coaches suck.  Y U NO RUN? Really needed you to beat GB today.  Nice collapse there.  So impressed with GB, they are holding their team together with spit and bailing wire.  And winning.  It's a shame Flynn will be forgotten when Rogers gets back.  Flynn needs a starting job somewhere.

How bout dem Fins!  Signature win vs. the Pats.  Great defensive stand against Brady there.  Pats not as bad as the ESPN chicken-littles claimed though.

[Paelos]

We have no coaches. I'm not sure what to make of this at all, when both teams I love refuse TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DEFENSE.

[Mithas]

What is it with supposedly decent teams coming out and falling flat on their faces this year? Cincinnati has a very winnable game and so far have just laid an egg.

[Paelos]

Honestly, I still think it's the changes to player practices. It's created a really terrible NFL product this year for a ton of teams.

[Merusk]

What is it with supposedly decent teams coming out and falling flat on their faces this year? Cincinnati has a very winnable game and so far have just laid an egg.

Welcome to the Bengals.  They play down to their competition every year.  It's why they've been one and done when they HAVE made the playoffs, they just haven't got winning in their makeup.  Some blame Lewis, but since Mike Brown plays a hand in every decision there's more to it than just the coach.

[WayAbvPar]

If Jason Garrett still has a job in a month there will be a fucking riot in big D.

[sickrubik]

Flynn needs a starting job somewhere.

Like Seattle!

[MediumHigh]

It's hard for me to say "play some D" when sniffing at a wide receiver is pass interference. Literally only thing stopping some of these offenses are themselves.

[HaemishM]

If Jason Garrett still has a job in a month there will be a fucking riot in big D.

I'm going to give Dallas some credit. They have had a SHITTON of injuries on defense. But yes, this should be a truism. Garrett is not a good coach. He's a decent play scheme creator but he's just fucking horrible at calling plays during the game. His idea of balance is that when the game is over, we've called almost the same number of running plays as passing, even if the situation did not call for it. And because of Jerry Jones, I can't say how much is his fault. Dez Bryant stomping off the field like a petulant child when the game isn't yet officially over? That's the kind of shit he should get benched for, at least for a quarter, but he likely won't be. That whole organization is just dysfunctional.

Green Bay, OTOH - Amazing what Matt Flynn can do on a competent team with a competent coaching staff. I don't know why he hasn't worked out in Seattle and Oakland. He certainly seems capable of starting in Green Bay.

LOL Saints - way to let Carolina back in the picture with a loss to the shitty Rams. Same LOL goes to the Bengals. Looking at the box score, I can't understand what went on in this game. By the stats, the Steelers should have lost. And a 3rd big LOL to the Pats - an early exit from the playoffs is in their future. 

[Ghambit]

Not sure why people still give the Pats props.  It was obvious this season that the phins were poised to take over the division; just hasnt happened due to a lot of external bullshit (refs, player misconduct, etc.)  Sherman's playcalling was the next big hindrance, but apparently he's now decided to listen to his detractors... his last 3 games have been called pretty well.

They decided to keep Incognito suspended w/pay rather then simply bring him back.  Not sure why they did this since they're still real thin at line...  I want to win; I dont care as much about the man's character.

Ironically, it was a Jonathan Martin Stanford teammate that saved the phins' season (for now) on the Pats' final drive.  The phins stole this guy off the 49ers practice squad and word is SanFran really didnt want him to go (even offered him more money).  He wanted a shot at some gametime though and took it.  Coaches put him solo against Amendola on two TD attempts (that takes balls); knowing full well Brady would target him.  Kudos to him and the coordinator... and I love seeing the intellect on a team regardless.

edit:  Turns out he missed calls from his agent all morning (he slept late) for the phins' roster and the phins almost pulled the trigger on someone else.  He made the team by like, an hour, and was on a plane an hour after that; and the only reason he got the call is because a former cut phins player (Moore - receiver) who played for the 9ers the 1st half of the season (and then was re-signed by the phins a month ago) let the staff know the guy was beast on the 9ers practice squad.  Cool story.

[Paelos]

Pats v. Panthers in the Super Bowl. Calling it now. 

[Bungee]

Same LOL goes to the Bengals. Looking at the box score, I can't understand what went on in this game. By the stats, the Steelers should have lost.

Team	Bengals	Steelers
Total Net Yards	279	290
Total Plays	67	62
Average Gain	4.2	4.7
Net Yards Rushing	57	106

   

What?

[HaemishM]

Same LOL goes to the Bengals. Looking at the box score, I can't understand what went on in this game. By the stats, the Steelers should have lost.

What?

Other than the rushing stats, Dalton's numbers were better than the Rapist, they had equal number of turnovers, etc.

[naum]

Same LOL goes to the Bengals. Looking at the box score, I can't understand what went on in this game. By the stats, the Steelers should have lost.

Team	Bengals	Steelers
Total Net Yards	279	290
Total Plays	67	62
Average Gain	4.2	4.7
Net Yards Rushing	57	106

   

What?

Did not get to tune in until the 3rd quarter but here lies the score differential and reason the stats are so close:

* Steelers jumped out to 24-0 lead and Bengals played catchup for rest of game; and especially late game, Steeler D granted little chunks to not get beat by big play
* A punt return TD (by A. Brown)
* 2 failed 4th down conversions by the Bengals that sealed their doom

[Nevermore]

If Jason Garrett still has a job in a month there will be a fucking riot in big D.

I'm going to give Dallas some credit. They have had a SHITTON of injuries on defense. But yes, this should be a truism. Garrett is not a good coach. He's a decent play scheme creator but he's just fucking horrible at calling plays during the game. His idea of balance is that when the game is over, we've called almost the same number of running plays as passing, even if the situation did not call for it. And because of Jerry Jones, I can't say how much is his fault. Dez Bryant stomping off the field like a petulant child when the game isn't yet officially over? That's the kind of shit he should get benched for, at least for a quarter, but he likely won't be. That whole organization is just dysfunctional.

Is Jason Garrett really at fault for the play calling?  I thought Jerry Jones stripped him of offensive playcalling duties this season and gave that to Bill Callahan.

[Paelos]

The entire coaching staff is at fault for what happened. Even if Callahan is calling plays, after the first time they do nothing but throw on a series of downs where you should be bleeding clock, everyone gets together on the sidelines after that and gets on the same page. That's the job of the head coach.

[Nevermore]

Sounds like the real problem is Jerry Jones.  Good luck with that.   

[Paelos]

It comes back to the same thing. We have an undrafted QB who gets paid millions to be mediocre, we have a defense that's so injured even Monte Kiffin can't fix it, and the last guy is now leading NOLA to a great defensive year, and we have a head coach that shouldn't be a head coach that was hired specifically to replace the last head coach who shouldn't have been a head coach.

[shiznitz]

The Eagles deserve just as much Defense mockery as Dallas.  They let the Vikings 3rd string RB score 3 TDs and make Kassel look good.  IN THE SAME FUCKING GAME!

[Tannhauser]

But why pass Dallas why?  You were averaging over 7 yards a carry (I think) and needed to eat the clock.  So you started passing?  Make them stack eight in the box before you start passing! 

Eagles and Giants stumble, does no one want to win the East?  Just when I thought the Eagles had gotten their shit together.  Giants are horrible, Eli couldn't complete a pass to an Applebee's waitress.

Now Detroit has to win tonight.  They have got to win the division; there's very little room for a Wild Card spot. 

[Paelos]

Cowboys can still win out and win. The East is a fucking joke.