NFL 2013

[Paelos]

You don't think SF or GB could beat the teams from Miami down 80% of the time?  I don't like your list.

Right now? No, I don't think it's better than 50/50 on home or road.

GB's defense is no better than Atlanta, and their offense has only won a single game for them so far. SF got destroyed by a team that lost to Miami at home.

It could change, but a lot of what we're assuming about these teams isn't about the teams this year yet. We're waiting for them to look like last year and they haven't.

[Nebu]

I tend to perceive power rankings as those teams that I see having the strongest chance of getting to the Super Bowl.  That doesn't do much for week-to-week strength, so that may be why our opinion differs. 

[Paelos]

That's certainly one view of power rankings. I think if that's the case though, we should rank 1-4 and the rest is just a crapshoot.

I feel pretty good about my top 4 atm, and their chances. I don't really like any team in the AFC right now except the Broncos.

[Mithas]

So Brett Favre's agent says that he can still play:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000250156/article/brett-favre-still-could-play-in-nfl-agent-bus-cook-says

Apparently he is the local blacksmith now. This is pretty much a non-story but I find it hilarious because idiot fans here in Minneapolis are all amped because they think this means he is coming back to the Vikings to save their shitty season.

[K9]

I thought that this was a cool statistic - Tom Brady is 139-39 for his career, the first QB to have a +100 win differential

Peyton is on +84, with a career record of 156-70.

It's tempting to say that his win percentage is inflated by an easy division, but it breaks down from 77% overall to 81% against other AFC east teams (52-12) and 76% against the rest of the NFL (87-27)

Relevant wikipedia article

[Rasix]

Slight typo: Pats are AFC East, not NFC.

[Malakili]

It's become vogue to hate on the Patriots and they've fallen off a bit over the past few years in terms of raw power, but some people just forget how damned good they were for a long time. Like a LONG time.

[K9]

Slight typo: Pats are AFC East, not NFC.

Whoops, fixed. Cheers.

It's become vogue to hate on the Patriots and they've fallen off a bit over the past few years in terms of raw power, but some people just forget how damned good they were for a long time. Like a LONG time.

People hate dynasties I guess, for the same reason that people that people root for the underdogs maybe? I'm not even sure it's a case of past-tense either; the Pats (although not rock solid) are still a very good team.

I think the positive thing to consider is that right now we are fortunate to get to see arguably the two best NFL QBs in history (Brady and Manning Sr.) playing. There are other elite QBs in the League, but I don't  think they will leave behind quite as many ridiculous records as those two.

[Paelos]

People hated the Steelers in the 70s, the Niners in the 80s, the Cowboys in the 90s, and the Pats in the 00s.

Thing is, you just don't see dynasties as much with the salary cap the way it is, and the QB sucking up such a huge part of it.

[Ingmar]

You can't fool me, nobody hated Joe Montana.

[Paelos]

You can't fool me, nobody hated Joe Montana.

 

[Ingmar]

Clarification: Cowboys fans aren't people.

[Paelos]

Clarification: Cowboys fans aren't people.

We can't help that we've risen above the normal human. 

[sickrubik]

People "hate" on the Patriots for plenty of reasons.

[Cyrrex]

You can't fool me, nobody hated Joe Montana.

It's possible not to have hated him, yet still wished for him to fracture every bone in his body.

Question:  If Texas ultimately does split off from the rest of the federation, can they please take the Cowboys with them?  Thanks.

[Ingmar]

Better would be to relocate them to LA and rename them something and declare all the franchise records invalid.

[Cyrrex]

And make sure to name them something as anti-Texan and un-Cowboyish as possible, just to rub it in.  The LA Hipsters, or something.  Anaheim Democrats.  Los Angelos Metrosexuals.

[Surlyboi]

The West Hollywood Transexuals. The entire city of Dallas would have an aneurysm at the same time.

[Cyrrex]

I was going to go with Hollywood Homosexuals, but I didn't want to unintentionally offend someone.  Still, Romo's Homos would be a team worth watching.  Their favorite play would be the old End Around.

[Paelos]

Yeah they'll move the most popular and most valuable franchise in the NFL. 

Keep dreaming you left coasters!

[Mithas]

Yeah they'll move the most popular

They are moving the Packers?

[HaemishM]

The West Hollywood Transexuals. The entire city of Dallas would have an aneurysm at the same time.

Just call them the Compton Village People Cowboys. Have to keep the Cowboys on there to make sure their old fans know whose balls are in whose faces, the Compton part to associate it with black people and gangsta rap and the Village People for a little bit of teh ghey.

Also, I was totally right about starting Kap instead of Bradford in fantasy football. You're welcome.

[sickrubik]

This thread is starting to get a bit.. 

[Ingmar]

The West Hollywood Transexuals. The entire city of Dallas would have an aneurysm at the same time.

You have to be a little subtle. I'd go with the Hollywood Rage.

[Paelos]

Also, I was totally right about starting Kap instead of Bradford in fantasy football. You're welcome.

Yep that worked out well. Good job!

[Sjofn]

You can't fool me, nobody hated Joe Montana.

I didn't hate him, but I didn't feel bad about my team murdering him either.  Because I am a bad person.

[ghost]

You can't fool me, nobody hated Joe Montana.

Wat?

[sickrubik]

THIS JUST IN: The NFL is mulling the possibility of expanding to 14 playoff teams and cutting preseason to 3 games.

I'm not sure if we need more playoff teams. I'll wait to hear from people who watch more sports than I do to know how this would impact things.

[Tannhauser]

My initial reaction is No.  There are already division 'champs' who enter the playoffs 8-8.  Maybe they want to do it for teams who suck in the regular season but really perform in the playoffs (Giants).

[Nevermore]

The NFL does not need half the league to make the playoffs.

[Paelos]

Seems inevitable. The NFL seems to want to expand everything now, sport be damned

[K9]

I don't understand what's going on today

[Paelos]

Giants and Pittsburgh are garbage teams this year. So are the Jags and Tampa Bay.

[Malakili]

Maybe they want to do it for teams who suck in the regular season but really perform in the playoffs (Giants).

Playoff football gets stupid ratings, that's the beginning and end of it.

[Paelos]

The problem is if they water it down, they'll burn their regular season ratings which are also top notch.

EDIT: Also Andy Reid looks good on a team that isn't in a city full of gigantic dickheads.