NFL 2013

[WayAbvPar]

We now have 3 in Seattle. Figures- the market expands just after I quit listening. I used to listen to sports radio constantly. I can't stand it any more. Ignorant hosts and even more ignorant callers just drive me insane.

[Malakili]

One of the things I don't like about sports radio is that they seem to always shout everything, always have music on in the background, etc.  Everyone just needs to take it down a level.

[Segoris]

I thought this was pretty cool over on PFT, voting for a Mount Rushmore for each team. Basically, football nerds debat the best 4 players/coaches/owners for a team. Good luck on picking 4 players for teams like the Bears, Packers, Giants, Cowboys, etc.

It is about halfway done, but still fun for those eagerly awaiting September 5th.

[Paelos]

Troy, Emmitt, Staubach, Landry would be my picks for the boys.

[01101010]

Jim Brown, Art Modell (part of me died saying that, but still...), Ozzie Newsome, Otto Graham - Cleveland.

[HaemishM]

The Packers are pretty simple.

Bart Starr, Vince Lombardi, Brett Favre and Reggie White.

I mean, give it a decade and we may see Rodgers eclipsing Favre (though since he revitalized the franchise, I doubt it) but the others? Easy. Misses some great running backs and others in their history but it's not like you can take Lombardi or Starr off. And I'll cut the man who says Reggie White wouldn't deserve to get enshrined that way. Great football player but even more he seemed like a really great human being.

[Merusk]

Jim Brown, Art Modell (part of me died saying that, but still...), Ozzie Newsome, Otto Graham - Cleveland.

Art? Really? There isn't a player you'd stick in there instead?

[01101010]

Jim Brown, Art Modell (part of me died saying that, but still...), Ozzie Newsome, Otto Graham - Cleveland.

Art? Really? There isn't a player you'd stick in there instead?

Art did a shit ton for the game and for the Browns prior to him taking his ball(team) and leaving. Maybe I'd swap him out for Paul Brown, but I think he'd be better on Cinci's Rushmore.

[Segoris]

Troy, Emmitt, Staubach, Landry would be my picks for the boys.

I did the same but had a really hard time putting Aikman ahead of Dorsett. Aikman was great and has 3 rings, but he had a lot of weapons to do it with. Dorsett had one ring but with a lot less to work with. It was basically Dorsett as a Rookie, Starbauch, and Drew Pearson.

The Packers are pretty simple.

Bart Starr, Vince Lombardi, Brett Favre and Reggie White.

I mean, give it a decade and we may see Rodgers eclipsing Favre (though since he revitalized the franchise, I doubt it) but the others? Easy. Misses some great running backs and others in their history but it's not like you can take Lombardi or Starr off. And I'll cut the man who says Reggie White wouldn't deserve to get enshrined that way. Great football player but even more he seemed like a really great human being.

I love Reggie White and voted for him on the Eagles Mt Rushmore, but I can't put him ahead of Curly Lambeau, Lombardi, Starr, or Favre for the Packers. I absolutely agree about Rodgers passing Favre, but just not yet as he needs a lot under his belt before people think of him instead of #4 when they think Packers

[Tannhauser]

Detroit Lions-Alex Karras, Barry Sanders and two kickers. 

[sickrubik]

The Patriots are signing QB Tim Tebow and expect him to be in minicamp tomorrow

 

I can not wait for Brady of all people to have one bad game this season.

[Paelos]

That's actually the one place he could go, and nobody would bother saying he should start.

[sickrubik]

That's actually the one place he could go, and nobody would bother saying he should start.

I think you vastly underrate the idiocy of Tebow fans.

[ghost]

If there's anyone that could find a decent use for Tebow it would be Belichik.  He might even be able to convince him to play TE.

[Paelos]

That's actually the one place he could go, and nobody would bother saying he should start.

I think you vastly underrate the idiocy of Tebow fans.

Ok not nobody. Nobody serious about football, and certainly not enough to cost a coach his job for not listening.

[K9]

I think the Pats is a great place for him. There will be no pressure on him to compete for a starting job, no urgent need to make use of him to justify his existence, and Bill Belichek has a history of working with atypical prospects and making something of them. I can't see the Pats needing three QBs though, so perhaps this is a way for Bill to pull Tebow aside and convince him on the merits of playing a WR or TE.

Also, with Gronk and Hernandez both looking questionable for the season start, he could have a good shot at starting as a TE, rather than spending his life carrying clipboards.

[sickrubik]

What about Belichek somehow means he'll go to TE?

McDaniels drafted him to be a QB. He apparently pushed hard to get on the Pats. I'm not sure where this means he'll magically become a WR/TE.

[K9]

The word on twitter from people 'in the know' is that he'll be doing a lot of reps at TE in training camp. Take this with a pinch of salt obviously, but it seems a better use for him than as backup QB. I haven't seen much of Ryan Mallett, but he seems no worse than Tebow, and not particularly in need of some competition. *shrug*

[sickrubik]

The word on twitter from people 'in the know' is that he'll be doing a lot of reps at TE in training camp. Take this with a pinch of salt obviously, but it seems a better use for him than as backup QB. I haven't seen much of Ryan Mallett, but he seems no worse than Tebow, and not particularly in need of some competition. *shrug*

Like WHO. I haven't seen a lick of "reps at TE". I'm not saying you're wrong, I just have not seen anything like that.

Morte seems to think he'll be a QB, at least.

[K9]

Mike Freeman is on the TE train; obviously everything at this point is speculation though. It just seems that he'd make a more natural fit at TE than as a backup QB. Maybe a 3rd string QB, but do the Pats really need that roster weight? All passing aside, everyone knows that Tebow can run the ball with the best of them; he has the tools to be a TE, and that's driving the speculation I figure.

[sickrubik]

All passing aside, everyone knows that Tebow can run the ball with the best of them; he has the tools to be a TE, and that's driving the speculation I figure.

It ALWAYS has been. The TE talk is not new at all.

[K9]

Where did I ever say it was? I'm really not sure what you're getting worked up about.

[sickrubik]

Where did I ever say it was? I'm really not sure what you're getting worked up about.

I'm not worked up at all. As a Broncos fan, I can't wait to see the hilarity.

I just don't understand what's changed now that makes it anymore possible. I don't know why we give any credit to someone saying "He should play TE!" like it's some grand revelation.

edit: I love you Onion. Patriots Sign New Long Snapper

[Paelos]

Josh McDaniels is the biggest nuthugger idiot in the league. He is absolutely worthless to have in an organization. If he pushed for Tebow, I hope Belicheat eventually pushes him off a cliff.

[Trippy]

Rob Gronkowski is probably finished, sadly. So why not try out some more people for TE?

[Ingmar]

Why do we think he is suddenly willing to change positions when he hasn't been before?

[Trippy]

Cause nobody wanted him at QB so he had no choice unless he was willing to retire?

[Paelos]

Didn't Bill basically say in a presser he would only consider Tebow as a TE?

[Ingmar]

Well that's why we're speculating that, but I thought actually-involved people who know something were being cited, and I haven't seen a link.

[Paelos]

Did they fire Mallet? Because he would be a better backup QB anyway. It makes no sense to have another SEC guy in the wings just cause.

[sickrubik]

Cause nobody wanted him at QB so he had no choice unless he was willing to retire?

I think you undervalue his ego.

Also, nobody wanted him because of the circus. There have been coaches/owners who wouldve been happy to take him as a clipboard-holder, but the circus is a nightmare.

Didn't Bill basically say in a presser he would only consider Tebow as a TE?

Bill said he didn't want him, most recently, per a "source". So who the fuck knows when it comes to "insiders" anymore.

Plus the Patriots week-to-week injury report is full of crap.


Also, there's no reason to believe he'll actually be on the roster come September.

[Trippy]

Well that's why we're speculating that, but I thought actually-involved people who know something were being cited, and I haven't seen a link.

I don't think anybody official has said anything yet. We may not know until he reports.

[Ingmar]

Also I scrolled past Freeman apparently. Seems sketchy.

[K9]

Rob Gronkowski is probably finished, sadly. So why not try out some more people for TE?

That'd be a real shame, he's a phenomenal athlete. Maybe he can sit out on IR for a while and get fit.

Also, nobody wanted him because of the circus. There have been coaches/owners who wouldve been happy to take him as a clipboard-holder, but the circus is a nightmare.

Everything I saw after the Jets cut him was that teams were willing to look at him, but only as a TE; nobody wanted him as a QB, not even as a 3rd stringer. That's where his ego got in the way and he didn't try out for anyone. So either the Pats are willing to take him on a as a long-term development prospect, or he swallowed his pride and is willing to take a shot at TE on a team which knows how to use them well, and which would offer him cover to develop. Until some reports come out of camps we're not going to be able to say really.

[ghost]

I expect that the Patriots will have him throw the ball some and run some.