Camelot Unchained

[Rendakor]

Sarcasm or just a dead link?

[Hutch]

Dead link. They're doing it wrong.
http://camelotunchained.com/v2/afternoon-update-friday-august-29th-2014-repost-from-weds/

edit: I mean the link. They're blogging wrong. Whether they're doing RvR/MMO wrong is, of course, subjective.

[Rendakor]

Thanks.

[Druzil]

Hmm, sorry about the bad link.  Not sure if they changed the date on the blog or what.  That was the same post I was trying to link though.

[Hutch]

They changed the date of their announcement, so they wrote a new post.
And, rather than link/redirect from the old post to the new post, they just erased the old post.
So anyone (like you) who tried to link to the old post ended up in 404 land.

[Falconeer]

Even though there's a heavy NDA, they have shared the first footage of DAOC 2 Camelot Unchained, which is now in closed Alpha with only the 250$ backers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdLRYy3o-Qw

[Nebu]

Even though there's a heavy NDA, they have shared the first footage of DAOC 2 Camelot Unchained, which is now in closed Alpha with only the 250$ backers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdLRYy3o-Qw

Not sure why they'd release that footage.  Nothing good will come from it.

[Paelos]

My guess it desperation or another plea for funds coming?

[Malakili]

Well, it does look a lot like Dark Age of Camelot, I'll give them that.

[Nevermore]

Vikings, Arthurians and Tuatha Dé Danann.  Subtle.

[Bzalthek]

Look at the arc of those spells.  I wanna cast siege fireballs like that.

[Falconeer]

The backers are SUPER happy with those videos. I saw it because a friend of mine who's been raving about DAOC (and now DAOC 2) since day one thought of killing my pessimism with that footage. He was like: "so this was going to be shit, huh?! TAKE A LOOK AT THIS NOW!"

 

[Trippy]

It looked okay for a so-called pre-alpha.

[Bzalthek]

They've got plenty of time to really fuck up.  It's in stick figure mode, the fact that it's not already the Mona Lisa is not really a negative.

Note: I have no pony in this race, I just like seeing different shit than what we've gotten the last decade or two.

[carnifex27]

Every time this game comes up I get frustrated that it is going to have a subscription. PvP oriented games benefit the most from free or buy to play, due to the increased population. I don't understand why they don't go the RIFT route, which has the best implementation of free to play imo. On the other hand, a sub based model will likely save me a lot of money in the long term.

[Nebu]

The backers are SUPER happy with those videos. I saw it because a friend of mine who's been raving about DAOC (and now DAOC 2) since day one thought of killing my pessimism with that footage. He was like: "so this was going to be shit, huh?! TAKE A LOOK AT THIS NOW!"

 

I was super happy with the video for two reasons:

1. The mention of physics/combat being resolved server side (no easy hacks or user-induced latency)

2. The cost-benefit of skill/ability builds looked intriguing.

I have a friend that is in the pre-alpha and he is VERY excited about progress so far.  Then again, I played DAoC with him for 6 years, so my glasses are rose tinted. 

[Lantyssa]

Also the people who payed enough to be in the pre-alpha are all insane, so there is a high chance they will like it.

[calapine]

The backers are SUPER happy with those videos. I saw it because a friend of mine who's been raving about DAOC (and now DAOC 2) since day one thought of killing my pessimism with that footage. He was like: "so this was going to be shit, huh?! TAKE A LOOK AT THIS NOW!"

 

I was super happy with the video for two reasons:

1. The mention of physics/combat being resolved server side (no easy hacks or user-induced latency)

Well, not doing it this way would be pants-on-the head retarded for a PVP game, so I don't think that point can be really counted as a achievement.

That being said, I hope the game turns out well.

[HaemishM]

Dat video... it's 2001 all over again. 

[Nebu]

Well, not doing it this way would be pants-on-the head retarded for a PVP game, so I don't think that point can be really counted as a achievement.

Can you name a pvp mmo where the mechanics are kept server side other than WoT?  I'm not sure that there is one.

[calapine]

Well, not doing it this way would be pants-on-the head retarded for a PVP game, so I don't think that point can be really counted as a achievement.

Can you name a pvp mmo where the mechanics are kept server side other than WoT?  I'm not sure that there is one.

Hmmm...Are we talking about the same thing? I might be revealing a lack of understanding here, but I thought that basically every MMO nowadays has the combat completely server side, only movement being client based but limited by regular sanity checks by the server.

[Nebu]

... only movement being client based but limited by regular sanity checks by the server.

You may be correct, but this was always a particularly big issue in the past.  Being able to exploit both location and movement speed are annoyances in MMO pvp.

[Segoris]

I'm okay with the footage, but I would have liked to have seen some siege weaponry in use (though it may not have been implemented just yet).

I did like the duck and the line of "For Howard the Duck!" as a battle cry

[Threash]

The guy from the video acts like 15 months is an eternity.

[Malakili]

Yeah, I was thinking - gee, pre-alpha to launch ready by next fall?  Good luck.

[Draegan]

I'm pretty excited for a non quest-based theme park MMO to launch. This game isn't really for me though, I don't think I can really do another hotbar/tab target based PVP game. I hitched my hopium fueled dreams to Crowfall who are developing an action based combat system. That's all I'm basing my excitement on.

[LC]

I still can't remember when the old "it's alpha" or "it's beta" thing was used as something other than an excuse. This is supposed to be done in a little over a year? I mean I've seen their concept art and it looks terrible just like this alpha footage. This is honestly what I imagined the game looking like. It's funny looking at how things have developed over the last few years.

Asia/korea is making polished MMOs with stunning graphics that usually turn out to be piles of p2w shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5zHKxq1DXQ

Meanwhile the west has returned to making MMOs with the graphics and polish of the early 2000s which also turn out to be piles of p2w shit. A lot of western mmos aren't even mmos anymore, but I guess you could call them pseudo mmos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbxMi74MNJI

[Falconeer]

The funny thing is that some of the Koreans games would be really really cool if it weren't for the p2w aspect. But would they have those budgets at this point if they didn't build with p2w in mind?

[LC]

The funny thing is that some of the Koreans games would be really really cool if it weren't for the p2w aspect. But would they have those budgets at this point if they didn't build with p2w in mind?

Probably not. If you look at Archeage as an example, it seems like the biggest part of their profits come from getting players addicted to virtual gambling.

[Gimfain]

The funny thing is that some of the Koreans games would be really really cool if it weren't for the p2w aspect. But would they have those budgets at this point if they didn't build with p2w in mind?

Probably not. If you look at Archeage as an example, it seems like the biggest part of their profits come from getting players addicted to virtual gambling.

Archeage and tera started out as P2P.

[Rendakor]

ArcheAge has never had a box cost in the US, just a cash shop and optional sub fee.

[Falconeer]

New Official Video.

[Lantyssa]

Didn't we have that above?

I also love how the opening is inspired by the Game of Thrones opening in both style and sound.

[Segoris]

Yes, but Falc's link cuts out the shitty podcaster.

[Threash]

Massive improvement.