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Reply #420 on: July 21, 2013, 06:02:38 PM

It's going to make money due to the international markets. So they'll probably make another one. Still, it's not going to blow the doors off any records in the US markets.

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Reply #421 on: July 21, 2013, 06:07:33 PM

http://youtu.be/1CBC5s5qmLY

Japanese dub needs english subtitles.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS



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Reply #422 on: July 21, 2013, 06:09:01 PM

It's going to make money due to the international markets. So they'll probably make another one. Still, it's not going to blow the doors off any records in the US markets.

Fuck the US market. It's only good for Adam Sandler "comedies".



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Reply #423 on: July 21, 2013, 06:13:42 PM

Ironman 3 did $400M this summer. The US Market isn't the problem in this case.

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Reply #424 on: July 21, 2013, 06:41:05 PM

Huh.. IM3 only about the same internationally as Avengers, (800mil and 888mil respectively)  but IM3 did 200mil less in the US.

Estimates have Pacific Rim's 2nd week beating out RIPD in its opening weekend.  That doesn't bode well for RIPD.

Ironman 3 did $400M this summer. The US Market isn't the problem in this case.

It's not that we're the problem, it's that we're on the decline and mattering less and less.  1/3 of the market gross is strong, but it's far less than where we use to be.  We've been declining around 1% a year since 2007.
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Plus international markets seem less discerning that the US.  That abomination of a movie, Battleship did far too well overseas.

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Reply #425 on: July 21, 2013, 07:02:20 PM

International markets like movies where the script doesn't matter. Makes some sense when you think about it.

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Reply #426 on: July 21, 2013, 08:18:55 PM

Brought the kids yesterday to Imax 3D.  This movie is totally just an excuse to have giant robots fight rubber suit monsters.  I loved it, nobody hated it.  Robot fights were plenty awesome enough to forgive the movie's weak ass plot, drama and mush.  At least they had a japanese chick.  Also really appreciated all the light moments.

They did say they attacked the breach and everything just bounced off.  Maybe because lava or because giant robots have nothing to fight if they seal the breach.

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Reply #427 on: July 22, 2013, 02:07:29 AM

Oh gee, look who has two thumbs and isn't crazy.

<-- This guy.

When the only other guy sharing your corner of dissent is Ironwood, it's safe to say you're still certifiable.

Rather than take umbrage at you being wrong (because there's others who agree), I'm going to point out that Schild and I rarely agree on ANYTHING.

This is telling in of itself.

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Reply #428 on: July 22, 2013, 05:06:09 AM

How does something 'bounce off' a breach/rift. It's a big hole, you can't shoot a thing into a hole and have it bounce off.

Unless it is an Acme co hole placed by Wile E Coyote and which a road runner has just passed through.

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Reply #429 on: July 22, 2013, 05:11:43 AM

They had those energy vagina portal things, remember ?  It was like fucking V'ger in there.

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Reply #430 on: July 22, 2013, 05:19:10 AM

Oh I haven't even seen it. Just someone above made me think of road runner and I decided to share.

After the IM3 and Star Trek fiascos I don't really feel compelled to attend another dubious nerd film just yet.

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Reply #431 on: July 22, 2013, 05:28:28 AM

Wise.  Very Wise.

The only really outstanding thing was GlaDos being hilarious.

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Reply #432 on: July 22, 2013, 07:05:21 AM

Something that we haven't talked about yet that bothered the SHIT out of me was (not using spoilers because this doesn't actually matter) that the main character appeared to have been shoved out of the military after his first jaeger was decommissioned with no pension or other special dispensation even though he was one of their most elite and successful fighters and a national celebrity.  There's no way he's clawing for a living doing construction five years after being trusted with a billion-dollar machine and not breaking any rules.

ETA: and if someone justifies this with 'it's an action movie they can do what they want' I'll climb through the tubes in the internet and scratch you.
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Reply #433 on: July 22, 2013, 07:12:12 AM

Um, I got the feeling that was self-inflicted.  After his bro was rent from his mind, he lost it and went wandering, calling no place home and no man friend, weary, yet weary, as he strode the world as an outcast and...

Sorry.  Not sure what happened there.

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Reply #434 on: July 22, 2013, 07:13:37 AM

Oh I haven't even seen it. Just someone above made me think of road runner and I decided to share.

After the IM3 and Star Trek fiascos I don't really feel compelled to attend another dubious nerd film just yet.

It's a difficult one. I thought IM3 was pretty decent; the script was back up to the first film's standard with added Shane Blackisms and it tied in very nicely to the Post-Avengers universe and how a relatively ordinary guy like Stark deals with it. Star Trek, on the other hand, was mildly enjoyable but easily the fucking stupidest movie I've seen at the cinema in years, outdoing both its predecesor and Prometheus (though I will argue the science in Prometheus is fairly watertight, it's just the protagonists that fuck everything up) by a country mile. It was literally an insult to science fiction and the pedigree of Star Trek in general.

On the other hand, while science and logic are clearly not high on the agenda in Pacific Rim, it doesn't insult you with stupidity like Abram's ST, but rather asks that you go along with it for the ride. You have to accept that physics has taken a back seat because KAIJU. They simply aren't possible in any fashion. Nothing can be that big in Earth's gravity. So once you're over that, all you need to contend with is some cheesy dialogue which is par for the course with Kaiju movies and some typical character tropes, some of which get nicely subverted. I absolutely loved Pacific Rim. I may have mentioned that. I certainly don't demand that everyone else does, just that they give it a chance.

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Reply #435 on: July 22, 2013, 07:15:22 AM

Which character tropes got subverted ?

Genuinely interested...

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Reply #436 on: July 22, 2013, 07:17:18 AM

Sorry.  Not sure what happened there.

A rare moment of character comprehension and/or empathy?  why so serious?

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Reply #437 on: July 22, 2013, 07:29:07 AM

Which character tropes got subverted ?

Genuinely interested...

Chuck Hansen is the principle example in that regard. It's the Top Gun anti-buddy relationship - the mutual respect/hatred between Chuck and Raleigh is never reconciled because of Chuck's sacrifice, and the sacrifice comes from out of left field because you would have expected his father to be the one to do so. We know instinctively that Stacker Pentacost is going to do something terminal but when it's Chuck and not Herc along with him you feel a genuine sense of anguish and empathy for Herc as he watches, powerless to help.

Another example is the scientist duo of Gottlieb and Geiszler; it's a typical trope to have one nutty professor in a big silly blockbuster but PR has two as they're not only great comic relief bouncing off each other as a lighter motif on Raleigh and Herc, but because they also get to do what Raleigh and Herc never can - cooperate (the theme of the movie). Their reconciliation is the one we expect from the lead Jaeger pilots but don't get.

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Reply #438 on: July 22, 2013, 07:58:27 AM

Nope, I disagree.  The bumfuck scientist chuckle brothers were so tragically acted that they could have sodomised each other on set and you wouldn't have cared.  They were there to be the exposition delivery vehicle and were laughably lame at being so.

Also, the Australian Son you knew would end up like that.  You just KNEW it.  The only slight surprise was the genre Savvy pentecost who pretty much hung a massive fucking lampshade on it after he'd suited up.

I really think this is one of those 'We watched Different movies' type things.  Glad you enjoyed your version.

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Reply #439 on: July 22, 2013, 08:10:36 AM

PR had two silly professors because they didn't have anyone as good as Goldblum on cast. I already talked about how they needed multiple people to replace single characters in ID4.
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Reply #440 on: July 22, 2013, 08:25:15 AM

No, it's because they had to drift....

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Reply #441 on: July 22, 2013, 08:44:54 AM

Um, I got the feeling that was self-inflicted.  After his bro was rent from his mind, he lost it and went wandering, calling no place home and no man friend, weary, yet weary, as he strode the world as an outcast and...

Sorry.  Not sure what happened there.


Yeah, it was totally self-inflicted. Survivors guilt to the nth degree.

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Reply #442 on: July 22, 2013, 08:58:35 AM

Which is also retarded.  You don't get survivors guilt if you've been inside the other chaps mind.

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Reply #443 on: July 22, 2013, 09:10:17 AM

wut?

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Reply #444 on: July 22, 2013, 09:18:01 AM

A rare moment of character comprehension and/or empathy? why so serious?

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Reply #445 on: July 22, 2013, 08:36:24 PM

This has been surprisingly entertaining. Schild is always good value when he gets a head of steam up.
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Reply #446 on: July 22, 2013, 10:58:00 PM

Nope, I disagree.  The bumfuck scientist chuckle brothers were so tragically acted that they could have sodomised each other on set and you wouldn't have cared.  They were there to be the exposition delivery vehicle and were laughably lame at being so.

Also, the Australian Son you knew would end up like that.  You just KNEW it.  The only slight surprise was the genre Savvy pentecost who pretty much hung a massive fucking lampshade on it after he'd suited up.

I really think this is one of those 'We watched Different movies' type things.  Glad you enjoyed your version.

I dunno about subversion but the scene where Pentecost tells Herc Hansen "Nope, you're a punk with daddy issues. I had you pegged on day one." got a huge grin out of me, as I'm terribly tired of the daddy issue punk trope.



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Reply #447 on: July 22, 2013, 11:43:11 PM

Yes.  That's what I meant by "The only slight surprise was the genre Savvy pentecost who pretty much hung a massive fucking lampshade on it after he'd suited up."

It was pretty much saying 'You're a cardboard cutout character and you annoy me.'  Which was what I was thinking.  It was surprising.

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Reply #448 on: July 23, 2013, 10:21:58 AM

Yes, though honestly he should then have turned around and looked in a mirror and said, "And by the way I'm a by-the-numbers hardass military commander with a soft heart and a terminal illness". Characterization was not in any way at all this film's strength and it really should have been better given that they were messing around with a concept like the Drift, which begs for a bit more psychological density. (How could you keep having unresolved Daddy issues if Daddy is in your fucking brain every couple of days where you can see that he thinks you're acting like a spoiled punk?)
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Reply #449 on: July 23, 2013, 10:53:25 AM

Yeah, that's why you can't have survivors guilt too.

 why so serious?

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Reply #450 on: July 23, 2013, 11:12:07 AM

The thing that pissed me off: Every review I read praised the storytelling and complex character development.  I wasn't expecting a miracle, but I was expecting to see a character journey on par with Avatar. 

When I walked into the movie, I was really disappointed.  None of the emotion was earned.  Not a single relationship was fleshed out.  We were told, "Hey, this is a father/son team" and we were supposed to care about their relationship, although we never saw them give a %@$# about each other before their heartfelt moment.  In the final moments, when things look darkest for our hero, but the world as a whole just won a major victory, we're supposed to believe that everybody is going to hold off their celebration for to see if the guy makes it out alive?  And the romantic relationship between two characters that spend maybe an hour or two together?  Ugh.

This is a movie that should have been two movies.   The first movie should have begun with the brothers in SF when the first Kaiju attacked.  A Cloverdale type adventure for about an hour that ends when the monster is finally taking down by conventional weapons.  Then we see the brothers join up for the Jaeger program and we see their first battle.  Then they lose one brother in the Climax when he faces off against the first Class 3 Kaiju ever seen.  The second movie picks up with established charactersand relationships in place.  You can then basically do this Pacific Rim as the sequel and not worry too much about the establishment of the characters.

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Reply #451 on: July 23, 2013, 11:21:02 AM

Yeah, that's why you can't have survivors guilt too.

 why so serious?

Yeah, again, wut?

Whatever you're thinking of, that's NOT survivor's guilt.
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Made WORSE because you know just how panicked, alone and terrified the person was as they died, while you lived.

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Reply #452 on: July 23, 2013, 11:35:11 AM

Nah.

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Reply #453 on: July 23, 2013, 11:36:05 AM

The thing that pissed me off: Every review I read praised the storytelling and complex character development.  I wasn't expecting a miracle, but I was expecting to see a character journey on par with Avatar. 

When I walked into the movie, I was really disappointed.  None of the emotion was earned.  Not a single relationship was fleshed out.  We were told, "Hey, this is a father/son team" and we were supposed to care about their relationship, although we never saw them give a %@$# about each other before their heartfelt moment.  In the final moments, when things look darkest for our hero, but the world as a whole just won a major victory, we're supposed to believe that everybody is going to hold off their celebration for to see if the guy makes it out alive?  And the romantic relationship between two characters that spend maybe an hour or two together?  Ugh.

This is a movie that should have been two movies.   The first movie should have begun with the brothers in SF when the first Kaiju attacked.  A Cloverdale type adventure for about an hour that ends when the monster is finally taking down by conventional weapons.  Then we see the brothers join up for the Jaeger program and we see their first battle.  Then they lose one brother in the Climax when he faces off against the first Class 3 Kaiju ever seen.  The second movie picks up with established charactersand relationships in place.  You can then basically do this Pacific Rim as the sequel and not worry too much about the establishment of the characters.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So you want two piles of shite instead of one ?

Nah.  Let's not do that either.

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Reply #454 on: July 23, 2013, 12:06:55 PM

The thing that pissed me off: Every review I read praised the storytelling and complex character development.  I wasn't expecting a miracle, but I was expecting to see a character journey on par with Avatar


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