Pacific Rim

[Khaldun]

Ok, I don't want to hear another word about what's realistic.

[Teleku]

Thats not a realistic request.

[Ghambit]

That last bit looked live-action. 

[Simond]

YES

NICE

[Ratman_tf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcsFMTjgsCM

[Ghambit]

Has anyone else seen besides me seen the Pacific Rim trailer in full IMAX-3D?  They showed it during Superman and it blew my mind.   Mecha battles right off the screen into your face.  Glorious.

[Wasted]

Just saw this with my son, its sublimely ridiculous in every way.  We saw it in 2d and both agreed to see it again in 3d.

[apocrypha]

I had very little desire to see this movie until I read this interview with Guillermo del Toro.

All you get are these sort of pro-war movies where everything is super-military and everything looks really polished and cool, and I wanted to make a very textured, very colorful, a little bit visually crazy adventure film.

The other sort of big summer movies often feel to me like it’s about one race, one credo and one country saving the world, and I wanted to make it about the world saving the world, no matter what skin color you have, what race you have, what belief you have – everybody in the movie saves the world

That and the stuff he says about the CGI have piqued my interest. Now all I have to do is wait for the bluray release. 

[Merusk]

Despite my earlier bitching about things that still bother me, I'm really looking forward to this.

I  del Toro's whole philosophy about special effects and his approach. Anything I can do to support that vs. the "COOL SHOT BRO" extravaganza that movies currently are I'll do.

[Rendakor]

So psyched to go see this tomorrow night.

[sigil]

The best monster movie I have ever seen. 

The best big movie of this summer I've seen to this point. I'd put it with avengers, but for different criteria.

The bigger the screen, the better. I saw this in digital IMAX and I realized I was grinning like a madman during this film on multiple occasions.

I do however have a term for a reality distorting, epically "What the fuck did you just say?" Moment. "Gipsy is analog!" Oh... That ... That was bad.

[Evildrider]

http://comicsbeat.com/hollywood-mystery-who-is-trying-to-kill-pacific-rim/

Interesting story about some industry people trying to trash on Pacific Rim. 

[Selby]

Interesting story about some industry people trying to trash on Pacific Rim. 

I did see a couple of articles periodically referring to it as going to be a flop, which struck me as odd.  I hadn't heard anything about it until I saw a trailer for it before This Is The End 2 weeks ago.  Seems odd that a potential hit would be trash talked by the industry, but then let's be honest most people in the industry are complete tools and morons to begin with...

[Evildrider]

I guess it has to do with Legendary breaking apart from their parent studio and the fact that Pacific Rim isn't a remake of some sort.  The fact that it has no big stars and will probably not flop is also a big deal.  Not surprising considered Lone Ranger just came out and it's looking to be a John Carter'ish kinda flop.

[MahrinSkel]

You read between the lines of that article, and what even the author of it won't say outright is that WB is laying the groundwork to pull their final marketing dollar push out from under Pacific Rim, as a warning to Legendary not to push to hard on the other negotiations.  Call their bluff, and they'll go limp on promoting Pacific Rim (may have already, I don't watch enough TV with commercials to know).

Actual word of mouth on it is nowhere near as bad as that makes it out to be, the worst reaction I hear is pretty much here in this thread: Why you make Mecha movie, del Toro?

--Dave

[Abagadro]

Tull already bailed. He moved to Universal two days ago.

I've read a few books on insider hollywood stuff and I wouldn't be surprised if some suits at WB are trying to tank the movie purely out of personal spite.

[Samwise]

I thoroughly enjoyed this movie.  It was way better than a movie about giant robots beating up aliens had any right to be.

[Ironwood]

Cool.

[Margalis]

To some degree all media discussion these days is infested with "but will it sell?" talk. It's something I really hate, when a discussion that should be critical in nature is instead faux inside baseball stuff about how well something will perform. It also seem pointless to me - instead of speculating about how well something will do why not just wait a few weeks and find out?

[Merusk]

Because there's too much money on the line.  These aren't creative people chasing a passion, it's suits and bags of money chasing a greater investment. That's Hollywood and the creative funding of any popular phenomenon.

It's the same reason we're seeing super hero after super hero movie.  SpiderMan and X-men showed they could work it in 2000, and the studios have been chasing that dragon ever since.  It's a bubble though and at some point it's going to burst and bring things crashing down.

It's cracked and all but this breaks it down pretty well: http://www.cracked.com/article_20406_5-reasons-superhero-movies-are-bubble-that-will-soon-burst.html  His pseduo-prediction at the end of a 13 year cycle was unnecessary, but the high points have held the same for each bubble.  Sci-Fi/ Fantasy now, Action Movies Previously, Epics before that and Detective movies in the 30's.

We're getting in to the 'execs demanding control' phase if we aren't there already. These are endeavors to make money, which means the media is focusing on that because their audience is starting to focus on it vs. the creative side.  Nobody cares how awesome a thing is when it's just a blip on the radar of awesome things.  We're over-saturated and looking for something else to discuss.  So, back to one of the basics.  (Scandal, Money, Sex, Fantastical )

[murdoc]

I thoroughly enjoyed this movie.  It was way better than a movie about giant robots beating up aliens had any right to be.

I have AVX tickets for this afternoon and can't wait.

[Brofellos]

Can those who've seen it try to get schild excited about it so I can take him on a bro-date

[Salamok]

I'm sitting here at work and looking out the window at the i-max wondering if I should sneak out at 4 to go see the 4:15 showing.  Then again it is my daughters birthday today so if I sneak out at 4 and do anything other than go home for some sort of birthday festivities then I am probably entering into bad dad territory.  There is always next week...

edit: Okay I read the "who is trying to sink Pacific Rim" conspiracy article and wonder if anyone can draw me a Venn Diagram of people who read Variety and people that are the target audience for Pacific Rim...

[Merusk]

Next week?  What's wrong with tomorrow or Sunday morning?

[Sir T]

Ok. After reading this thread all I can say is FUCK REALISM ITS GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING MONSTERS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T SUCK! I'm heading to the cinema next week when I have some money!! 

[Ghambit]

Ok. After reading this thread all I can say is FUCK REALISM ITS GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING MONSTERS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T SUCK! I'm heading to the cinema next week when I have some money!! 

Screw that.  I'm taking my geeked-out 6yr. old nephew with me in a few... puttin it on credit.  Why wait?

As for the cinema-vibe I'm seeing so far??  Not great.  Not a single sold out showing at the museum I-Max.  A decidedly niche theatre yes, as they love to show supers/fantasy flicks, but still I expected more.  Here's to hoping word-of-mouth actually works.

[Salamok]

Next week?  What's wrong with tomorrow or Sunday morning?

Well for one I could hit the i-max with a rock from my desk at work so during the work week I am already there but the most compelling reason is I would rather just take time off of work to go see it.  Chances look to be very good that this movie is better than being at work so it will add to my entertainment value.

[Surlyboi]

A couple of my monkeys caught it last night and loved it. Granted, they're all 20-something nerd bags, but that's the target market. I'll see it on Sunday with a begrudging wife.

[Paelos]

Friend of mine is involved in the financing side, wanted to know what the nerds thought. I reported that they seemed to approve.

[Merusk]

Call their bluff, and they'll go limp on promoting Pacific Rim (may have already, I don't watch enough TV with commercials to know).

Seems like a bluff, considering I had 3 commercials for it during the hour of Big Bang Theory reruns I watched last night.  I think there was even one during Hell's Kitchen, which isn't exactly the target demo.

[Abagadro]

The bigger the screen, the better. I saw this in digital IMAX and I realized I was grinning like a madman during this film on multiple occasions.

I did the same thing. Just grinning like a damn fool.  

Catch this in IMAX or XD before it gets pushed out.

EDIT: Oh, and Idris Elba is really good in this. He deserves to be a big star.

[Teugeus]

I don't know if I can praise this movie enough after just seeing it in IMAX 3D, it's so good and such a nice breath of fresh air when a film about giant robots fighting giant monsters opens with giant robots fighting giant monsters. Also felt like it was just the right length unlike the going trend atm which seems to be make to your movie as long as possible.

[HaemishM]

Best movie of the summer. Absolutely full of fun and awesome without insulting my intelligence except the digital analog thing. Grinned like a damn fool or laughed like a jackal through the whole thing. Idris Elba stole the show and he deserves a hit. This is a nearly flawless movie. If you can't enjoy this movie, you are actively trying to destroy the concept of fun.

Where are my goddamn shoes?

[Daztur]

As far as the length I'm in the other boat, I'd love to see a director's cut that adds another hour. But whatever you think about the run time it's really really lean, no real fat around.

My favorite bits:
-Giant robots punching godzilla in the face? Hell yeah!
-The CGI was really really well done. It had a sense of weight and reality that most CGI doesn't have. A lot like the original Star Wars trilogy it had the used feeling that really really worked.
-Left out a lot of standard Hollywood action movie plotting bullshit. Some real paint by numbers subplots that you see in just about any blockbuster of this type just didn't appear at all, that was so damn welcome.
-Michael Bay should be force to spend the next week watching this on a constant loop Clockwork Orange style.

[Abagadro]

I really liked the choice of how he went through the entire origin in an extended prologue. Lots of directors would have gotten bogged down in that shit.