Iron Man 3

[Evildrider]

[Mattemeo]

Hate nesting spoilers but since it's a brand new movie...

 

[Ironwood]

Ok, I'm back.

This film wasn't good.

[Khaldun]

Hate nesting spoilers but since it's a brand new movie...

 

I don't think so. The reason I think they went for the twist is...

Two bad things I'll say about Marvel's films since Iron Man, including this one.

1) The scores are totally unmemorable. I can't think of any music from any of them even after I listen to them.

2) The action sequences with the exception of Avengers are pretty unmemorable. I can barely remember anything cool or amazing in terms of action choreography after I've seen one of these films.  When I think of IM 1, I can remember a few things (throwing the missile back at the tank). IM 2 I can't remember a damn thing from. Thor I can sort of remember him fighting the ice giants but nothing really concrete. Captain America weirdly the scene I can remember best is the USO number, which is genuinely funny. In this film the attack on Stark's house is fairly good, but in almost all the Marvel films there's something almost too choreographed about the action--it's overthought and underimagined all at once.

The characters are memorable, there are non-action set-pieces that are often pretty good (Stark in the snow dragging his suit in this film), and there's usually some good dialog. (Though RDJ's quips are so improvised in feeling and delivered with so much snark that a lot of them are pretty difficult to recall.)

[eldaec]

In most cases the problem I have with marvel film action is that it totally disconnects from the characters and story and feels like an overlong sequence of 'robots hitting each other with a DVD commentary track for smart remarks from the protagonist'. I probably blame CGI and lack of actor involvement. Iron man in the CGI suit never convinces me RDJ as Tony Stark is inside.

Even Cap and Thor don't really convince me they are the same character that does the talky bits.

This was never a problem for Indiana Jones et al.


This is all before seeing IM3 mind you, and it doesn't generally stop me enjoying the first 90 minutes of marvel films.

[Tannhauser]

Just watched it. Good not great.  Not enough Iron Man.  Also, his Mk IV took on Thor but the Mk 42 seems made of tissue paper.

[Lakov_Sanite]

[K9]

I enjoyed it; it's not quite as 'switch your brain off' as the last few Marvel movies.

[Venkman]

That's a great point. I came out feeling that way but the whole "mechanic" thing makes much sense in retrospect.

I loved this one, may more than IM2 and almost on par with IM1. While IM1 had some pacing issues, it still holds up very well.

I don't agree with Khaldun about the action being unmemorable though. I thought they played really well turning Tony Stark the iron suit symbiotic into Tony Stark the tools builder. And the final sequence* played very well as a pretty neat fight.

[Mattemeo]

I don't think so. The reason I think they went for the twist is...

[Khaldun]

You're overthinking it. I think there is zero chance that your reading will turn out to be correct.

[Evildrider]

The rings were shown in the first Iron Man.  Has nothing to do with Avengers.

[Merusk]

Potts:

[Venkman]

Yea that was pretty telegraphed. Still, it was entertaining after.

You're overthinking it. I think there is zero chance that your reading will turn out to be correct.

I agree. This isn't some Elementary/Holmes master conspiracy they set up. That'd be far too cerebral for this series. There's too much time that happens between these movies for there to be deep persistent threads that span all of them, except for whatever background thing only the comic book fans would even pick up on.

[kaid]

I think this was pretty much the point of the movie. Iron man is not awesome it is just a suit of armor. Tony stark is awesome with his armor or without it he is a genius who half drunk just trying to get his beak wet nearly fixed somebodies life work without half trying. I think this was the story that had to happen to make tony realize it that suit or no suit he can do what he needs to do even if gods and aliens are running around.

The only part of the movie that kinda annoyed me a little bit was the massive armor fight at the end. Why are these suits all with a fair amount of weaponry closing in to hand fighting range with the extremis solders. Answer is if they actually used their range the fight would have been over in 2 minutes and none of the suits would have been heavily damaged.

[Hutch]

I could have done without the 3D. There, I said it.

Tony's remote control over the suits didn't get annoying (i.e. is he in the suit this time or not?) before the movie ended. I thought they used it just enough.

I loved the kid.

This movie brought home the fact that I didn't actually read so much Iron Man as a youth, or for that matter any recent Iron Man comics, so that people like Killian Aldridge Aldridge Killian and Maya Reminds-Me-Of-Jessica-Biel are unfamiliar to me. So to me, this was the movie's biggest "flaw", i.e. the fact that the villains were almost completely anonymous.

Funny story: AIM, in the classic Marvel universe, invented the Cosmic Cube, aka the Tesseract.

I actually liked Gwyneth Paltrow as Pepper this time around. She seemed like she was acting, instead of "acting". She gave really weird performances in the first two movies, and I wonder if the change in director had anything to do with it.

I also liked the end tag.

Overall, thumbs up. Would watch again. But not in 3D.

[Shannow]

I could have done without the 3D. There, I said it.

The 3D like 99% of 3D movies was completely unremarkable and forgettable 2 minutes into the movie. Not once during this movie did I say 'wow that was a cool 3D effect'. In fact I wouldn't have even bothered to see it in 3D if it weren't for the couple of 12 year olds I had to take with me (who, mind you, morphed into 11 year olds at the ticket counter).

Does anyone here actually believe that 3D adds to the movie going experience and is something more than just a ploy to get us to spend more on movie tickets?

[HaemishM]

[Merusk]

I could have done without the 3D. There, I said it.

The 3D like 99% of 3D movies was completely unremarkable and forgettable 2 minutes into the movie. Not once during this movie did I say 'wow that was a cool 3D effect'. In fact I wouldn't have even bothered to see it in 3D if it weren't for the couple of 12 year olds I had to take with me (who, mind you, morphed into 11 year olds at the ticket counter).

Does anyone here actually believe that 3D adds to the movie going experience and is something more than just a ploy to get us to spend more on movie tickets?

The ONLY and I do mean ONLY movie I've thought did 3d well was avatar.  Watching Avatar on a 2d screen vs 3d feels totally different, imo. Cameron used it beautifully for the depth of field and floating holo displays of the log reports.   TRON attempted and failed, IMO because it got in the way and felt gimmicky.

I used to think Alice did it well but then I rewatched and saw I was wrong.  Everything else I've seen in 3d just felt schlocky and gimmicky and I don't pay for 3d anymore because of it. 

[tazelbain]

A > IM > CA > IM3 > T = IM2

[Ghambit]

I could have done without the 3D. There, I said it.

The 3D like 99% of 3D movies was completely unremarkable and forgettable 2 minutes into the movie. Not once during this movie did I say 'wow that was a cool 3D effect'. In fact I wouldn't have even bothered to see it in 3D if it weren't for the couple of 12 year olds I had to take with me (who, mind you, morphed into 11 year olds at the ticket counter).

Does anyone here actually believe that 3D adds to the movie going experience and is something more than just a ploy to get us to spend more on movie tickets?

Spiderman reboot used the effect well imo.  But for me I mainly see it 3d because I have no choice.  My main theatre is a museum IMAX and I'll watch whatever they show me to sit in front of an 8-story bigscreen.  3d or not, you should never compromise screen size. 

[K9]

A > IM > CA > IM3 > T = IM2

I'd rank it differently: IM > IM3 > A > T/IM2 > CA. Captain America was a pretty rubbish movie in my view; I can't really remember any of it other than thinking that super-nazis with laser cannons was almost insultingly stupid as a plot.

For the record I saw this in 2D and cannot think how 3D would have improved it in any way. Aside from Avatar which was properly conceived in 3D, and made good use of the effect I can't think of a single film where the 3D has been worth it.

[Cheddar]

The croods was good in 3d. 

[tazelbain]

Captain America was a pretty rubbish movie in my view; I can't really remember any of it other than thinking that super-nazis with laser cannons was almost insultingly stupid as a plot.

Just because you have a shitty memory...

[Evildrider]

[Ironwood]

Captain America was a much better movie than this shit.

Also, didn't they breathe fire in Extremis ?  I was sure they had.

[Evildrider]

I just read about a cool Easter egg I missed in IM3.

[Ironwood]

And you missed that ??!

[Furiously]

Just back from seeing it. I think Ironwood and I saw something different from everyone else here. Just not that good, rent it.

[K9]

Captain America was a pretty rubbish movie in my view; I can't really remember any of it other than thinking that super-nazis with laser cannons was almost insultingly stupid as a plot.

Just because you have a shitty memory...

No, my memory is just fine. There's just nothing especially awesome or memorable about that film. It also grossed the second lowest of all the first wave marvel movies, only doing better than the last Hulk movie which was utter crap, so apparently I wasn't the only one who found it mediocre.

edit: I was wrong to put Thor and Iron Man 2 on par though, Thor is a better film, mainly because of some great casting. The only thing redeeming Iron Man 2 is RDJ as Tony Stark. There is nothing to redeem Captain America in this list. The best you can say is that it's not as bad as Ed Norton's Hulk.

[Samwise]

I literally fell asleep during the last half of Captain America, that's how meh I thought it was.  First half was good, then once it got to nazis with lasers ZZZZZZZZZZZ.

[eldaec]

Just saw this. Disorganised thoughts:

More genuine laughs than I've had in the cinema for a while.
They got through a lot of genuinely daft shit by going fast.
GF announced it was the best marvel film so far. I'm not sure I agree, but can see how someone who doesn't give a crap about the series and remembers very little about it would think that.
The IM series needs to die after this. Not because of the epilogue, but because the last action set piece kind of makes the whole IM concept obsolete.
Saw it in 2D, this film once again confirms that 2 is the correct numbers of Ds.


Oh, and Thor was far better than IM2. Stop having bad opinions tia.

[Lakov_Sanite]

You know I've been thinking about iron man the superhero and it's kind of the tanks vs mechs argument isn't it?  If you have that level of technology why the FUCK would you ever put yourself inside of it to fly around like a spaceman?

[Teleku]

Its amazing the range of opinions these Marvel movies have vs. every single poster on this board.  Haven't seen IM3 yet, but sounds good.

Thor was enjoyable, but the worst Marvel movie put out in this entire cycle.  Including the second Hulk film.  Captain America was great.  Fight!

[tazelbain]

Stop having bad opinions

I agree!  Thor's middle act was absolutely abysmal. It dragged down the great Spacespeare stuff.