Dragon Age 3

[Venkman]

Yea, I hope they polish things a bit in the inevitable "fix the PC port" patch to come. The plastic skin is worse to my eyes than the hair. But also the sound thing where the game can only be played in stereo (otherwise you lose the in-dialog character voiceovers) needs to be fixed.

Again, Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2. Unplayable w/out controllers. I didn't see too many people here or elsewhere saying, "Don't buy, don't play, get your money back" for that sin.

And again, I say Shadows of Mordor.

If you were picking, say, a best selling PC game designed for PC first in an age when it is assumed all PC gamers are using a controller, I'd see your point and happily accept my "get off my lawn" card.

But Dark Souls 1/2 is not that game, and we are not in that age, simply by virtue of most of the rest of the games that get it much more right than not.

I'm accustomed with UI conventions that are console-first. Laborious screens you need to slog through just to manage inventory, dumb modal and contextual conventions that mostly just work at 11 feet away on a screen without a mouse cursor. Been dealing with that since the last generation of consoles. Even Assassins Creed series has handled PC a lot better.

[Khaldun]

I  Iron Bull and Varric. You need a humorless character for them to interact with though. Cassandra is pretty good. Iron Bull comments about tit armor with her for example.

[eldaec]

What the fuck is this? People play PC games with console controllers?

Do you all hate yourselves?

[Ceryse]

So, finished Hinterlands completely.  Everything done and explored.

I'm missing two mosaic pieces.

The completionist in me is furious.

The rest of me refuses to comb over that huge area to look for them.

Bah!

Also; dragon fight was fun. Did it at level 11, with my party (Cassandra as tank, Sera as archer and Vivienne as Lightning/Support spec) at level 11. Sera died once because I wasn't fast enough on getting her out of the way of flame breath and she loved to stand right in front of the damn thing, instead of backing off. Honestly, would have walked right through the dragon if my mage hadn't been specced Fire/support, because the damn thing was immune to fire and the only offensive spell I had mapped that wasn't fire was chain lightning. Still, double barrier, a couple regen potions on Cass and myself.. and a few normal heal pots for Sera and Vivienne for when they walked through fire and it was easy, but long.

Also, found some fade touched Obsidian, I think it was obsidian anyways.. god damn. Gonna need more to craft some weapons with. Gives +3 guard on hit. Can easily make your tank invulnerable with that... Even on the dragon Cass only lost her guard a few times.

[Khaldun]

What the fuck is this? People play PC games with console controllers?

Do you all hate yourselves?

Yes, all through having fun with Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2, I was thinking "Oh, dear, playing with something other than a keyboard and mouse is a religious sin, and God will punish me for it." And so here I am again, forced to sin against the most holy of holies. I wonder what circle of Hell has room for playing a game with something besides a keyboard and mouse. Probably the one for heretics.

[Venkman]

Come on now. That's the only example you've got 

I'd happily adopt a new interface device once it becomes standard enough the knowledge to support it is a commodity skillset. KB+M is no more intuitive by nature than a piano. Just because you can press keys doesn't mean you can do it well without lots of training and/or conditioning. But, it simply remains the dominant form because we're surrounded by it in our every day lives across a spectrum of need states.

Meanwhile, game controllers are single purpose. And even with that single purpose, there's a reason why every console generation needs to reinvent them to a degree.

We're starting to witness the emergence of post KB+M interfaces. But we're a generation away from seeing a new dominant form, and another generation away from it being the complete replacement for all interface devices for all applications.

In the meantime, design well for the platform your game is on. EA/BW didn't port to PC well. Others have ported fine. This is a choice EA/BW made (or a prioritization they didn't make... anyway, same diff). So they rightly get called out on it.

[Khaldun]

Yeah, I'm just trying to stay within some sort of proportionality on this and other criticisms. Which, I know, is not the normal thing around here, where the spectrum runs from dyspeptic old-man outrage to jihadi-level fury.

[rk47]

Another apologist to the count. *updates his .txt*

[Maledict]

I'll just jump  in to say I got this on the Ps4, and **** me it's good. Ddnt finish DA1, didnt play DA2, utterly loving this and possibly my game of the year.

It's Skyrim with better combat, better graphics, and Bioware's story and character writing. The game is also freaking HUGE in size, and it has to be easily the biggest game they have made since maybe Baldurs Gate 2. Even the small zones go on forever!

[Venkman]

Yeah, I'm just trying to stay within some sort of proportionality on this and other criticisms. Which, I know, is not the normal thing around here, where the spectrum runs from dyspeptic old-man outrage to jihadi-level fury.

Ha!

rf47: What's this about updating a .txt? Joke or are there tweaks?

[rk47]

Yeah, I'm just trying to stay within some sort of proportionality on this and other criticisms. Which, I know, is not the normal thing around here, where the spectrum runs from dyspeptic old-man outrage to jihadi-level fury.

Ha!

rf47: What's this about updating a .txt? Joke or are there tweaks?

Everyone should keep a list of txt on people in the internet man.
My cyber-senpais taught me.
One day I made a remark that contradicts what I said much earlier and they pointed out they had a txt on me. :\
From then on I have created a special folder in my computer to hold every .txt on every user I met online.

[CaptainNapkin]

My wife doesn't understand why she can't play right now. Trying to explain these jackasses to her... unsuccessfully... https://twitter.com/lizardpatrol

[Paelos]

My wife doesn't understand why she can't play right now. Trying to explain these jackasses to her... unsuccessfully... https://twitter.com/lizardpatrol

Is that why I suddenly can't log into Origin?

[CaptainNapkin]

Unplugging her lan cable forced offline mode and allowed the game to launch.

[Venkman]

Origin works for me.

Yeah, I'm just trying to stay within some sort of proportionality on this and other criticisms. Which, I know, is not the normal thing around here, where the spectrum runs from dyspeptic old-man outrage to jihadi-level fury.

Ha!

rf47: What's this about updating a .txt? Joke or are there tweaks?

Everyone should keep a list of txt on people in the internet man.
My cyber-senpais taught me.
One day I made a remark that contradicts what I said much earlier and they pointed out they had a txt on me. :\
From then on I have created a special folder in my computer to hold every .txt on every user I met online.

Ah!

[Surlyboi]

There is always someone somewhere with a big knows who knows who'll trip you up and will laugh when you fall...

[AcidCat]

I really didn't like this game at first. Many hours in I am thinking this is one of the best games I've ever played, and I still have only just met the antagonist.

[AcidCat]

Oh and - Jar of Bees. New favorite thing ever. Playing on PS4 with a controller, which means all is right and as the Maker intended. I just really wish I could control the camera distance from my character.

[Quinton]

I am enjoying this game so much, after 20 hours of play I started a new character to be a more optimal class for the NPC buddies I want to drag along in my party, something I almost never do (I'm not a re-player of RPGs).  There's so much content that while I'm catching up to where I am in my first game I'm managing to see a lot of entirely different places and quests. 

The combat is a bit wonky, but not so bad as to ruin the overall experience (I stick with Normal and play ranged -- first an archer-rogue, now a lightning-mage, with Cassandra tanking, Varric providing additional DPS, and third party member usually Sera, but other folks get swapped in as appropriate).  Using a mouse and keyboard on the PC because I'm not some kind of apostate or abomination.

Jar of Bees is indeed the best thing ever.

[tmp]

The best part of Jar of Bees is the final upgrade you can get for it. The name and all.

[Jeff Kelly]

Now that I've seen those screenshots I agree. The faces and hair do look really ridiculous and glossy. It's quite distracting and sad because I quite like the character designs you two posted otherwise.

[Teleku]

So, if you skipped DA2, will this one not make as much sense plot wise, or does that not really matter?

Also, is it heavily consolized?  I see people mentioning they play it with a controller on PC, which is something you only really do if it’s a straight console port with no regards to the PC.  Or is it more like Mass Effect 2/3 where its still (mostly) tolorable with M/KB?

Was going to just skip this, but based on people’s reactions here, I might go see if some rum drinking peg legged sailors have a spare copy.

[Falconeer]

Mass Effect 2 and 3 were consolized and still they were 1000 times better played on a PC. Shooting, mouse, you know. That's another reason why I am annoyed at what I am reading about this. But I picked it up anyway, so we'll see how it goes.

[rk47]

So, if you skipped DA2, will this one not make as much sense plot wise, or does that not really matter?

Also, is it heavily consolized?  I see people mentioning they play it with a controller on PC, which is something you only really do if it’s a straight console port with no regards to the PC.  Or is it more like Mass Effect 2/3 where its still (mostly) tolorable with M/KB?

Was going to just skip this, but based on people’s reactions here, I might go see if some rum drinking peg legged sailors have a spare copy.

The story still makes sense. Somewhat. It never really tie the whole DA1&2 plot much except for character cameos.
It's heavily consolized. Very badly ported with sub-par control schemes. You can't even click on a loot to automatically move your character over n pick up.
It's not cracked yet.

[jakonovski]

You can't even click on a loot to automatically move your character over n pick up.

 

What is wrong with these people?

[Bunk]

So, if you skipped DA2, will this one not make as much sense plot wise, or does that not really matter?

Also, is it heavily consolized?  I see people mentioning they play it with a controller on PC, which is something you only really do if it’s a straight console port with no regards to the PC.  Or is it more like Mass Effect 2/3 where its still (mostly) tolorable with M/KB?

Was going to just skip this, but based on people’s reactions here, I might go see if some rum drinking peg legged sailors have a spare copy.

Ton of summaries online as to the plot for DA2, Reddit or the Bioware forums I would suggest. As for KB/M - as a melee I found it almost unplayable, but, a number of the issues related to that will likely get patched up.

[schild]

So, rk47 has been sending me footage of this game as he records it.

I've been skipping the cutscenes in fucking videos. What the shit people. There's no way between the cutscenes and combat controls that this game is worth playing. Or worth praising.

I seriously don't "get" it.

[Rasix]

[murdoc]

42 hours in and I am enjoying it a ton. Finally just got my specialization to Knight Enchanter and it's Arcane Warrior 2.0. So far, I haven't had much trouble going from range caster to melee with the M+KB but I imagine that after so many hours I'm pretty used to the  weirdness of the controls.

Finally figured out why my voice changed - if you customize anyone else you might meet (spoilers I guess), it changes your voice to whatever one you didn't chose.

I have complaints, but overall I am having a lot of fun with it.

[Paelos]

Exactly. Game's fun. Eat a dick if you can't see why.

There's legitimate complaints, but seriously it's not going to take away from the overall experience that this fills. There's plenty to do, good characters, a decent enough story, and again plenty to do. And redo. The areas are brilliantly done.

[Teleku]

Mass Effect 2 and 3 were consolized and still they were 1000 times better played on a PC. Shooting, mouse, you know. That's another reason why I am annoyed at what I am reading about this. But I picked it up anyway, so we'll see how it goes.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at.  I liked Mass Effect 2/3, which were heavily consolized, but I cannot even fathom trying to play those games with a controller.

However, from the sounds of it, they've gone all in and controller is the only way to play.  Unless they somehow turned all the combat into Mordor or Demon Souls style fighting, Fucking bleh.

[schild]

Exactly. Game's fun. Eat a dick if you can't see why.

All I can see is my thread where I said this is the worst season of gaming ever. Can I see this as king of the Short Bus? Sure can. Can I see this as a game worth playing? Not really, no, and you haven't exactly made a compelling argument other than "There's, like, you know, stuff to do, man."

For example: If I need a game to dick around with during Christmas time, should it be this or should I just boot up Skyrim and get a mod to turn everyone into a penis? Is this more compelling than that?

[Signe]

No, playing with a penis is probably much more fun.  Well, for the penis, at least.  I like this game and it's keeping me entertained for now.  Did I like Skyrim better?  I did.  Lots.  But this is good fun for now.

After this, however, I'm going to need a really spectacular horror survival game to play. 

[tmp]

I seriously don't "get" it.

tl;dr it's Skyrim where your moron companion has some buddies and they crack jokes as you go around.

That's plenty of fun for both those who liked Skyrim's exploration and shit, and these who like BioWare's companion antics. If neither holds appeal for you, then yeah. Game doesn't have much/anything interesting to offer.

[Hoax]

tl;dr it's Skyrim where your moron companion has some buddies and they crack jokes as you go around.

That's plenty of fun for both those who liked Skyrim's exploration and shit, and these who like BioWare's companion antics. If neither holds appeal for you, then yeah. Game doesn't have much/anything interesting to offer.