Dragon Age 3

[Ingmar]

Yeah - F will interact with any interactable you're close enough to.

If you want to loot things without using the mouse, I think it's F then hit spacebar to just grab everything.

[Phildo]

I just thought the first boss was intentionally unbeatable.  Took me a few tries.

[Velorath]

Prediction: This is going to be one of the most overrated games of 2014 with the highest number of apologists per intelligent gamer ever made.

Prediction: Some people will like the game despite its flaws. Also, schild will never play the game making it impossible for him gauge the accuracy of his prediction.

You don't need to play a game to extrapolate results based on player reaction aaaaaaaaaaaand all the instant messages I got saying what utter shit it is.

If something is overrated then there have to be a lot of people saying that its good. The only way you're going to determine that their opinion is "wrong" without actually playing the game is by cherry picking comments people make to you that support the position you've already decided to take which is essentially to preemptively shit on people who like something you don't. I don't even think the game is particularly great. It's a good RPG that unfortunately has some flaws so I'm not really inclined to sit here defending it, but given that you don't like Bioware, and if I'm not mistaken refuse to buy EA games and probably refuse to install Origin on your PC, the only reason you clicked on this thread was for the sake of being a dick.

[Rendakor]

schild, being a dick? Shocking!

[Rasix]

The first boss mechanic was a bit wonky.  I couldn't figure it out at first and nearly wiped.  Please games, hiding shit in a green cloud is just being mean to me.

I don't love the controls, but I can live with them. People seem to love the gamepad controls, so I could always try those.  But I'm probably going to be a stubborn bastard and not bother. 

[Signe]

The first boss mechanic was a bit wonky.  I couldn't figure it out at first and nearly wiped.  Please games, hiding shit in a green cloud is just being mean to me.

I don't love the controls, but I can live with them. People seem to love the gamepad controls, so I could always try those.  But I'm probably going to be a stubborn bastard and not bother. 

Me, too, because the gamepad is all the way over there somewhere.

[Trippy]

f works for me when I close a rift, I don't even bother to look for the hotspot.

Yeah it works for me for the little ones. However it didn't work for me with the big event one.

[Tmon]

f works for me when I close a rift, I don't even bother to look for the hotspot.

Yeah it works for me for the little ones. However it didn't work for me with the big event one.

I didn't know about the option when I started so I did the hunt and click thing on the big one and it was frustrating as hell for me.

[Venkman]

I'm very unimpressed with the visuals, it looks incredibly fake and plastic in that video and in the 10min of streams I watched. I hope that's just a console thing.

Just got it, not reading this thread for spoilers, and I'm disappointed they don't import old saves though I appreciate the effort they put into Keep.

But quoting this because I agree. Even in the game, the graphics remind me of that Lord of the Rings Conquest game they picked up by way of Pandemic (by way of Elevation). Aside from that game itself sucking hard, the visuals were bright and colorful and totally at odds with the gravity of the situation they were trying to convey.

I'm heavily biased though coming right off of Shadows of Mordor, which really nailed the hell out of everything graphics and behavior. It spoiled me, especially on the wooden acting I've seen so far in DA3.

Not saying I'm not enjoying the game, just that it's been a jarring transition.

[Ginaz]

Honestly, if I could get a refund I would.  I really wanted to play as a melee character but as it stands now its almost unplayable with a m&k, esp. with the wonky camera.  I don't care how good the rest of the game is.  If its clunky as fuck to play, then why bother?

[calapine]

[Trippy]

I had horrible hitching both in and out of cut scenes. The new NVIDIA driver that came out yesterday fixed that issue for me. The issue with cut scenes playing back at no faster than 30fps can be hacked with command line parameters:

http://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/2mm319/dragon_age_inquisition_30fps_cutscene_framerate/

[rk47]

Honestly, if I could get a refund I would.  I really wanted to play as a melee character but as it stands now its almost unplayable with a m&k, esp. with the wonky camera.  I don't care how good the rest of the game is.  If its clunky as fuck to play, then why bother?

You can get a refund within 24 hours of starting the game.
I went past that mark already. :(

[Khaldun]

For an 80-hour plus game, I'm a bit puzzled about why first impressions matter, actually.

Because first impressions being good will compel you to play the rest of the game more likely than a shitty first impression.

Do you even game, bro?

Considering that you allow impressions you've formed from people instant-messaging you to control what you think of a game, I think I'm a bit closer to actually gaming.

[calapine]

RK, have you seen the last the last Southpark?

He must be taking the piss. Who says "I hate myself that I was not able to provide you an immediate solution".

And the line is soo close to the Southpark-indian-guy line too...

[rk47]

No, I only watch shitty anime and weaboo material.
Not american parody shows with shallow depth and self-ironic commentary on real life bullshit.
:edgyasfuck: LEAVE KUMAR ALONE

[Ginaz]

Honestly, if I could get a refund I would.  I really wanted to play as a melee character but as it stands now its almost unplayable with a m&k, esp. with the wonky camera.  I don't care how good the rest of the game is.  If its clunky as fuck to play, then why bother?

You can get a refund within 24 hours of starting the game.
I went past that mark already. :(

So did I.

[Trippy]

I thought I saw somebody mention this earlier though I can't find it at the moment but the radar "pinging" thing is really really stupid.

[Khaldun]

Overall the sense I get is that they moved to a more open environment for movement and exploration, with a Z axis, without really understanding the implications--they did some awkward half-way adaptations of combat, looting, healing etc. that range from being annoying to really bad. Combat is just flat-out aggravating once you're out in the open world. I appreciate getting off the rails, and having an environment chock-full of interesting stuff to see and do, but they needed to just flat-out rethink other typical Bioware design paradigms along the way. Certainly this part of the game is bad enough to affect how people rate the game.

I do like the storytelling and character work--it draws me in a lot. And the sense of lots of stuff going on is good. For me at least the graphics are good, but I'm on a brand-new machine that's fairly high-end.

[Falconeer]

I wonder if I'll get a better and less problematic version by waiting a couple of months. Do you think they might tune the camera issues and the mouse and keyboard alleged problems?

[rk47]

I wonder if I'll get a better and less problematic version by waiting a couple of months. Do you think they might tune the camera issues and the mouse and keyboard alleged problems?

How? All the preview vids they showed off had every developer playing this game on gamepad.
It's almost like we're crazy by sticking to KB+M setups.

[Bunk]

I do hope they manage to improve the kb/m experience, but I've already accepted that I'm going to play this with a controller. Melee isn't perfect that way, you still deal with attacking thin air when not paying attention, but overall I'm finding the combats fun with my rogue. Will be interesting when things get harder - finally had my first character drop in a fight against some rage demons near the edge of the Hinterlands. I have a feeling the "easiness' of the game early on may come back to bite me.

Despite the flaws, the game has me hooked. I spent an hour last night just running around in Haven - which is really just supposed to be the equivalent of Origin's Party Camp. The game just comes across as utterly immense.

[Merusk]

I wonder if I'll get a better and less problematic version by waiting a couple of months. Do you think they might tune the camera issues and the mouse and keyboard alleged problems?

How? All the preview vids they showed off had every developer playing this game on gamepad.
It's almost like we're crazy by sticking to KB+M setups.

You are. Games from studios like this are developed for consoles, not PCs. We've all done this dance before and should know better by now. Some studios do ports OK, but those are exceptions, not the norm. PCs are an after-thought port that get optimizations down the line, IF they sold the magic number of copies to bother with supporting them.  Consoles won the AAA game race ages ago.

[Paelos]

I wasn't expecting anything to get lauded here, but damn yall are nitpicking some crazy shit in this thread.

Yeah KB&M gets wonky at times, it's always wonky now. If they develop both (which they always do) I don't think you're allowed to complain about this anymore. We know this going in. We're the dinosaurs here. You either adapt, mod, or get a controller for your PC. Not getting a controller or complaining about having to use a controller is get off my lawn territory.

Game's fun to me. Exploring? Fun. Doing lots and lots of random shit for quests? Fun. Upgrading things? Fun. Inquisition map and followers? Fun. Story and cutscenes, not bad past the intro. I don't really get the point of mounts yet, but I'm in the first area still after 6 hours. I like finding stuff. I like the quicktravel options too. Shooting stuff with a bow is fun now, where before in DA:O it was completely cocknozzle.

[Falconeer]

I definitely didn't expect this game to be developed for consoles and joypads considering Dragon Age 1 and Dragon Age 2 were working perfectly on PC, to the point consoles felt like an afterthought and not the other way around.

[calapine]

Yeah KB&M gets wonky at times, it's always wonky now. If they develop both (which they always do) I don't think you're allowed to complain about this anymore. We know this going in. We're the dinosaurs here. You either adapt, mod, or get a controller for your PC. Not getting a controller or complaining about having to use a controller is get off my lawn territory.

Ok, now have gotten crazy! (sorry)

Having keyboard and mouse control work properly is not something niche like asking for Track IR or mufti-monitor support. It the most basic thing, and and being to told to "move on" in crazy in this context.

Personally I don't know anyone who plays that way. Neither is it a subject that I come across when lurking in gaming forums.

[Rasix]

I definitely didn't expect this game to be developed for consoles and joypads considering Dragon Age 1 and Dragon Age 2 were working perfectly on PC, to the point consoles felt like an afterthought and not the other way around.

You could see the trend developing.  If you don't think DA2 was influenced by a desire to shift emphasis to consoles and to cash in on the success on the franchise, then I don't know what to tell you.  

That being said, I'm doing OK with the controls barring one issue: spacebar.   I keep wanting to use it for pause, and I keep jumping instead.  I may need to switch up control and spacebar, but then I fear my bunny hopping will suffer.  I haven't had to use tactical view very often but I suppose it might help with some of these higher level fights that are kicking my ass (lvl 12 rift in a low level area, etc).

[Falconeer]

Except Dragon Age 2 played horribly with a joypad as opposed to Keybord and Mouse. So there's that.

[Rasix]

Wouldn't be surprised given its incredibly short development cycle and problems that arose from that.

[Ceryse]

Between re-mapping keybinds and almost never going into tactical view I've largely gotten used to the controls (so long as I'm not playing a melee character.. I still just can not tolerate it), and I expected keyboard and mouse controls to be wonky (it's a bad sign when all dev streams and such use the controller), I just never expected it to be as bad as it is; especially with regards to the camera and needing to manually auto-attack. I still struggle at times with the controls, but.. ugh. The ping and lack of tactics still bug the shit out of me. Thankfully, I'm playing on Normal and unless something over-levels me I'm not having too much of an issue; largely done the Hinterlands now (I have two side quests there left, and a number of those level 12 rifts). Surprised I haven't gotten to the Skyhold part yet, given I've already recruited Sera, Vivienne, Blackwall and could get Iron Bull if I opened up his area.

Met my first dragon. Laughed when its first fireball from the sky killed three of my party (although, that was three levels ago, and I'm level 9 or 10 now).

Battles got a lot easier once I learned two things; prioritize any talent will Guard generation for Cass, and learn how to do combos.. as they do a shit-ton of damage.

Oh, and bears suck. Especially when three of them and four assassin type lyrium smugglers literally spawn on top of you (another pet peeve.. shit shouldn't respawn on top of you, ever).

Story has gotten a bit better and I've yet to run into any technical issues outside of the occasional texture flicker.. though a lot of characters do stupid stuff in conversations (Varrick likes to do squats while we talk..) but the game is enjoyable for all of its flaws. A little common sense, however, and it could have been so much better.

[Trippy]

Oh, and bears suck. Especially when three of them and four assassin type lyrium smugglers literally spawn on top of you (another pet peeve.. shit shouldn't respawn on top of you, ever).

Yeah I laughed when I first saw that. Cryptic, among other companies, solved that in City of Heroes back in 2004.

[Paelos]

I expect the spawning issue to get addressed fairly quickly, along with the control issues on PC with the tactical cam and melee. I can very easily see a backslide on the PC "auto attack" once you click something. Right now clicking on the mouse makes zero sense.

I did find a stupid bug where one of my quest guys was invisible. Upon relogging he came back. Probably out taking a dump in the bushes.

[Bunk]

To me trying to play a melee character using kb/m felt similar to trying to play Skyrim with kb/m in third person view. Not good.
They really should have had a tool tip come up in the first two minutes to tell you to hit F to activate everything - the mouse targeting/right click is abysmal.

[Paelos]

They really should have had a tool tip come up in the first two minutes to tell you to hit F to activate everything - the mouse targeting/right click is abysmal.

This is honestly my biggest complaint with the game. In DA:O, when you clicked something it moved you to the object. In this game? HAHA FUCK YOU NOPE!

There's zero reason for that change. It's the absolute worst thing they did because it's literally involved in everything you do. Also the view on clicking Rifts sucks. If they changed that it would open up worlds of difference in the feel of the game to me.

[tmp]

The issue with cut scenes playing back at no faster than 30fps can be hacked with command line parameters:

http://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/2mm319/dragon_age_inquisition_30fps_cutscene_framerate/

Mind you, some people who tried there would then experience regular crashes that went away when they got rid of this command line thing. Just something to be wary of, if your game is crashing.

Also, it apparently really doesn't like any sort of overlay programs running (fraps, the ones coming with some graphics card and whathaveyou)