Bat Country Live Server: Gate of Madness

[tazelbain]

Fort Aspenwood is a strong server but the WvW queues are substantial.

[Sky]

Seems like the choice is balancing WWW queues vs PvE density to trigger better events.

[Lantyssa]

My small but primary guild is likely going to be on Sorrow's Furnace.

[Tmon]

I have to say that I was impressed by how smoothly the game ran even in the middle of a zerg pounding away on a heavily defended keep.  The biggest problem I had was losing track of my character in all the clutter.  I plan on wearing some hideously loud die dye schemes when this game goes live.  

[Sky]

 I plan on wearing some hideously loud die schemes when this game goes live.  

May your enemie's dye a thousand death's.

[Amaron]

I thought the WvWvW queues were just a bug?  There shouldn't even be such a thing at release should there?

[Nebu]

I am playing GW2 entirely for the pvp.  My vote is for any server with instant pvp queues. 

Alternatively, let someone choose the server and make the guild that won't be gone in a month.

[Tmon]

 I plan on wearing some hideously loud die schemes when this game goes live.  

May your enemie's dye a thousand death's.

I hate when I do that.

[kildorn]

I am playing GW2 entirely for the pvp.  My vote is for any server with instant pvp queues. 

Alternatively, let someone choose the server and make the guild that won't be gone in a month.

PVP or WvW?

As I understand it, PVP is serverless, so there is no server with faster or slower queues. WvW is server based, but it's queue is for overpopulation.

[tazelbain]

I thought the WvWvW queues were just a bug?  There shouldn't even be such a thing at release should there?

Queues that never finish were the bug. Queues and zone population cap were always in the WvW design.  They have said they will try to raise the cap to high as the servers can handle.

[Morfiend]

I think my small group of friends are planning on playing on Tarnished Coast. Its the unofficial RP server. Seems to have a fantastic community, they are good at WvW (have a very good record from all the betas) and so far not a single uber guild. Wins all around. Also, general chat was very pleasant.

List of guilds by server

[Morfiend]

I am playing GW2 entirely for the pvp.  My vote is for any server with instant pvp queues. 

Alternatively, let someone choose the server and make the guild that won't be gone in a month.

PVP or WvW?

As I understand it, PVP is serverless, so there is no server with faster or slower queues. WvW is server based, but it's queue is for overpopulation.

I believe there are two queues for an overcrowded server. First the world queue, where you get put in the overflow. You can still PVE but not WvW. After you get in the actual server, you can then attempt to join WvW with also has a cap, and will queue you if its full.

I could be wrong about this, but thats what I had been led to believe.

[tazelbain]

That's right.  We had tons of WvW queues last weekend on FAW. Even better you could spam f at a gate to by pass it.  It was a mess.  Yah for beta!

[Phred]

Personally I think making the decision to switch servers based on known bugs in the wvwvw queueing system and an oversold beta weekend is pretty retarded.

[murdoc]

My small guild of friends will probably roll on whatever server BC does.

[Zetor]

Same with my guild -- I'll try to match our server choice with BC's, if possible.

[tazelbain]

Fixing the bugs in WvW queues isn't going to change the fact that FAW has a massive population. Given its success with WvW and it's Penny Arcades home server, it will continue to get bigger. Also we could run into a situation like BWE2 where people locked out of making characters all together on FAW.

The only reason to stay I can think of is we want to take a shot at the top level, serious business, run with big dogs RvR. But given this poll and peoples behavior in game it just doesn't seem like we are interested.

[Phred]

Fixing the bugs in WvW queues isn't going to change the fact that FAW has a massive population. Given its success with WvW and it's Penny Arcades home server, it will continue to get bigger. Also we could run into a situation like BWE2 where people locked out of making characters all together on FAW.

I think if you expect the server to ccntinue growing much after initial release you're delusional. Other than expansions the first few weeks will be the peak for population. Especially for a game with no subscription.

[Morfiend]

I think you guys should come join us on Tarnished Coast.

[tazelbain]

Fixing the bugs in WvW queues isn't going to change the fact that FAW has a massive population. Given its success with WvW and it's Penny Arcades home server, it will continue to get bigger. Also we could run into a situation like BWE2 where people locked out of making characters all together on FAW.

I think if you expect the server to ccntinue growing much after initial release you're delusional. Other than expansions the first few weeks will be the peak for population. Especially for a game with no subscription.

Feel free to actually contribute to the conversation and actually tell us why its so important to stay on FAW.

[Phred]

Feel free to actually contribute to the conversation and actually tell us why its so important to stay on FAW.

It's not so much FAW as it is picking some low pop ghetto that has me upset.
But I can always guest over from a better server I suppose.

[01101010]

Feel free to actually contribute to the conversation and actually tell us why its so important to stay on FAW.

It's not so much FAW as it is picking some low pop ghetto that has me upset.
But I can always guest over from a better server I suppose.

I think Taz would like to know what constitues the "better server" part of your post.

[Ingmar]

If I learned one thing from DAOC it is that RVR type activity sucks ass on a low pop server.

[tazelbain]

Even when its 3 low pop servers fighting it each other?

[Ingmar]

Yeah, even if the numbers are the same there's still just less going on, and there's FAR FAR more opportunity for exclusion based on spec prejudice or whatever. When I play this eventually I'm going to pick the biggest, zergiest server I can.

[Evildrider]

My buddies and I are going to be joining Fist of the Empire.  They are saying they are gonna field about 100-150 ppl already for WvW.  Not sure what server they are headed to yet though.  I also know Team Legacy is going to another huge guild to look for.  Best thing to do is find one of these huge pvp guilds and hit the same server as them.

[Nevermore]

Plus low population servers might be more vulnerable to a situation where one low pop server has a relatively high percentage of devoted PvPers matched with a server with the same overall population but of mostly PvEers matched with another server with a similar overall population of 'fair weather' casual PvPers.

On larger population servers there should be enough unwashed masses to make that scenario less of an issue, but at least early on in the life of the game it could be an issue on the low pop servers.

[tazelbain]

Being so bad ass that you are matched against worlds in a higher weight class sounds like positive not a negative to me.

[Furiously]

Being so bad ass that you are matched against worlds in a higher weight class sounds like positive not a negative to me.

My advice...
Go where the Aussies go.

[Phred]

Feel free to actually contribute to the conversation and actually tell us why its so important to stay on FAW.

It's not so much FAW as it is picking some low pop ghetto that has me upset.
But I can always guest over from a better server I suppose.

I think Taz would like to know what constitues the "better server" part of your post.

Well the one we are on seems fine to me.

[Phred]

Yeah, even if the numbers are the same there's still just less going on, and there's FAR FAR more opportunity for exclusion based on spec prejudice or whatever. When I play this eventually I'm going to pick the biggest, zergiest server I can.

And from a PVE perspective, a dead server is also hell. At least you can guest elsewhere though

[Feverdream]

Argh, don't ever pick a low-population server.  I've seen it happen too many times -- after the initial rush, and once people bounce around to different servers to join friends, you risk being left on a low-activity server, which is just no fun.

[Threash]

We don't have to pick between the two extremes, there's a happy medium between "barren wasteland" and "long ass pvp queues".

[satael]

Just stay with Fort Aspenwood unless someone comes up with a better choice for a server.

[Phred]

We don't have to pick between the two extremes, there's a happy medium between "barren wasteland" and "long ass pvp queues".

Why does it take so long for the fact that long ass pvp queuse were because of a  bug to sink in?