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Topic: SPOILERS - Puzzle/Quest Discussion (Read 11731 times)
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Amaron
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Ok I just finished "The Vision" from the fortune teller. I found the quest rather interesting until the very last part. I worked at it for a bit then realized I obviously didn't get it and looked it up. Now I still don't get it.
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brellium
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Ok I just finished "The Vision" from the fortune teller. I found the quest rather interesting until the very last part. I worked at it for a bit then realized I obviously didn't get it and looked it up. Now I still don't get it.
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"One must see in every human being only that which is worthy of praise. When this is done, one can be a friend to the whole human race. If, however, we look at people from the standpoint of their faults, then being a friend to them is a formidable task." —‘Abdu’l-Bahá
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Amaron
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Riggswolfe
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"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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Amaron
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trias_e
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tmp
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POW! Right in the Kisser!
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Amaron
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If it was supposed to be an explore kind of thing then that's just shitty. That particular spot would definitely fall under the heading of needle in a haystack.
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Riggswolfe
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"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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Furiously
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Where is the third jack mission?
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Dark_MadMax
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Where is the third jack mission?
Blue mountains area
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Furiously
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Found it. Wasn't expecting it to not be a yellow for some reason.
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Falconeer
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a polyamorous pansexual genderqueer born and living in the wrong country
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About the Vision,
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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About the Vision
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Falconeer
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a polyamorous pansexual genderqueer born and living in the wrong country
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I think their point, their goal, is what Riggswolfe felt. No one will probably be able to solve all riddles or get all the locations and that's because the temptation to cheat is so strong when you are stuck, and so easy to do so. But that doesn't matter. What matters is what players feel when they complete a quest. They give players the opportunity to FEEL rewarded by completing quests. It doesn't matter if it's a fluke or what, you just feel smart, cool, intuitive, whatever, when you solve one of their riddles without help. And the fact that they make sense or not is irrelevant. Actually, solving the nonsensical ones gives you an even weirder blissfull chill.
That is in my opinion Funcom's biggest achievement so far with The Secret World: they found a way to make player feel happy, satisfied for completing quests regardless of the in-game reward.
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Amaron
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Posts: 2020
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They give players the opportunity to FEEL rewarded by completing quests.
I can't feel rewarded for finding a needle in a haystack. Kind of surprised if anyone can honestly.
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Falconeer
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Oh my. You've never been a kid then! What's more rewarding than finding a needle in a haystack?! Even more so cause you feel everyone else couldn't, or would have simply given up! Or would have cheated.
But yeah, of course, we are not all the same. That's a given.
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Njal
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Has anyone been able to find the white raven? Or is the quest bugged?
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Zetor
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If you can't find the white raven, your dimension is bugged and you need to switch to another one. Ask around for someone who's completed the mission successfully, join their group and port to their dimension when prompted.
I've also heard that joining+leaving the persistent pvp battleground (fusang) can work to switch you to a different dimension, but it hasn't worked for me.
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Miasma
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Stopgap Measure
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Has anyone been able to find the white raven? Or is the quest bugged?
You should be able to find the white raven even on bugged instances, if it is sitting on a stack of other white ravens your instance is bugged (most are bugged). If you mean you don't know where or how to actually get to the white raven:
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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While doing the Kingsmouth Code quest last night, I have to admit, as frustrated as I was getting by NOT finding the places to go without resorting to teh Googly, when I actually DID figure something out and got the quest to advance, I felt rewarded. I mean, I did actually have to take a few minutes to puzzle something out. Even if I was wrong, it's certainly more thought than I put into MMOG quests these days. It's partly because MMOG quests have taken to the herding you on a leash with giant arrows tactic of quest solving. I certainly don't want to do away with minimap quest indicators, but not having every quest handed to me on a platter is refreshing. Some of the clues just really make no goddamn sense though.
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Amaron
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Some of the clues just really make no goddamn sense though.
I liked the Kingsmouth Code a lot but:
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Rasix
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I am the harbinger of your doom!
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Some of the clues just really make no goddamn sense though.
I liked the Kingsmouth Code a lot but:
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-Rasix
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HaemishM
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the Confederate flag underneath the stone in my class ring
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tmp
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POW! Right in the Kisser!
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Flinky
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Regarding the Vision;
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Proud member of the Gnome Brigade.
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trias_e
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End of Dawning of an Endless Night:
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Miasma
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Stopgap Measure
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End of Dawning of an Endless Night: And separately, concerning the dragons:
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Ginaz
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So, To Catch a Thief 4/5
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Miasma
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Stopgap Measure
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Njal
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End of Dawning of an Endless Night: And separately, concerning the dragons: Spoiler for the next story quest
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Segoris
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Miasma
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Stopgap Measure
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End of Dawning of an Endless Night: And separately, concerning the dragons: Spoiler for the next story quest
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