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Reply #140 on: June 03, 2012, 04:26:52 PM

Although it hurt my brain, I was able to ignore the story well enough on my first play through on normal. What I cannot stand is how it gets interjected so incessantly on replays, I'd like for all vestiges of that garbage be removed. Pissed me off that the blue name that responded (with mostly good responses) to the long list of suggestions recently, blithely and senselessly passed on the request for a cutscene skip checkbox, fuck him for not elaborating. I'd like for more than that even, I want all vestiges of the story and the idiotic characters removed on subseqent playthroughs, hate the Leah character, fucking bow in her hair, and how all that goes. Plus the "I'm so and so demon here to blah blah blah" yeah yeah how about you fuck off and drop some level appropriate gear?

Funny story rephrasing, copy pasted in thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/uin6w/someone_on_the_official_forums_retells_the_story/
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Reply #141 on: June 03, 2012, 06:51:23 PM

The whole Diablo thing in 3 struck me as more Cell from DBZ, but he does have a passing resemblance to the queen in Aliens 2/PvA.
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Reply #142 on: June 04, 2012, 10:16:24 AM

I think the character you're playing makes some of the stuff slightly less/more silly depending.

If you're a Wizard, you flat out laugh at Maghda when she gets indignant at you suggesting she was set up.

Something like, "HA! Belial is the lord of LIES, fool."

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Reply #143 on: June 04, 2012, 10:37:33 AM

Yeah, I think the DH was also like "um, duh?" if I remember right. I could just be letting the wizard and demon hunter get sort of mixed in my brain. They both have a lot of bitchy lines, you see, so it's entirely possible they get muddled in there.

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Reply #144 on: June 10, 2012, 06:48:08 PM

In other news, Blizzard are happy with D3's story so I guess we can expect the expansion to be just as bad. Jay said that Blizz got lots of 'positive feedback' on the story, and calls out a guy for saying the story was bad.

Which puzzles me, because it should be pretty obvious to anyone that the story is a fucking joke.

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Reply #145 on: June 11, 2012, 04:48:26 AM

DIABLO: CAN YOU TELL I'M A GIRL THIS GAME??? I CAN'T STOP TALKINGGGGGGG   awesome, for real

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Reply #146 on: June 11, 2012, 04:58:17 AM

In other news, Blizzard are happy with D3's story so I guess we can expect the expansion to be just as bad. Jay said that Blizz got lots of 'positive feedback' on the story, and calls out a guy for saying the story was bad.

Which puzzles me, because it should be pretty obvious to anyone that the story is a fucking joke.

That's the good thing about having a customer base in the 'millions'.  I'm quite sure they DID get a LOT of positive feedback, because 9 million people contains a nice percentage of utter retards, madmen and children.  However, I'd be calling them outright liars if they said the greater percentage of feedback said the story was good.

Also, Diablo had tits that wiggled out the way.  What the fuck was all that about?

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Reply #147 on: June 11, 2012, 02:29:26 PM

Those were from Leah awesome, for real ACK!
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Reply #148 on: June 11, 2012, 02:39:42 PM

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WITCH DOCTOR: BUT, AGAIN, HOW DID U GET ALL THE SOULS IN HERE IF YOU JUST NOW GOT THE BLACK SOULSTONE?

ADRIA: CHRIST METZEN

WITCH DOCTOR: GOTCHA!!!!!!!!!

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*WITCH DOCTOR RECOVERS THE SOULSTONE:

WITCH DOCTOR: WAIT, HOW DID THE SOULS OF THE OTHER 5 DEMONS GET IN HERE ALREADY?

ADRIA: DON'T WORRY BOUT IT DOG... CHRIS METZEN

WITCH DOCTOR: GOT IT!

Haha...glad it's just not me who was botherd by that.

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LEAH: STORIES KILLED MY UNCLE!!!!!!!!!

Instant classic. Thanks Lord Fodder!

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Reply #149 on: June 11, 2012, 02:50:59 PM

The worst part is leah mentions fighting skeletons or some shit with her uncle when she's following you.

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Reply #150 on: June 12, 2012, 05:08:40 AM

I have found that the mashing of the spacebar makes the storyline so much better

That is all

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Reply #151 on: June 12, 2012, 05:53:47 PM

Maybe I am swimming against the stream here, but I am enjoying the storyline.

Slowly going through this (I am playing 5-6 different toons, including hardcore ones now in their teens) all the classes except Barb and WH), and I still have not finished Act IV (though close to final Boss with highest toon). But I find the banter to be comedic, and entertaining in a campy way. The follower banter is fun too, as it seems to be a bit different for the various character combos.

But agreed, that they should give you an option to turn off the cutscenes after you've seen them already.

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Reply #152 on: June 13, 2012, 08:36:05 AM

I enjoyed the follower storylines. The main story, not so much.
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Reply #153 on: June 16, 2012, 08:35:38 PM

Personally I enjoyed the storyline. But I didn't expect a literary epic from a game that is about as mechanically deep as left click, right click, loot with random stats. Oh and q for potion!
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Reply #154 on: June 17, 2012, 04:23:54 AM

Maybe I am swimming against the stream here, but I am enjoying the storyline.
I enjoyed the follower storylines.
Personally I enjoyed the storyline. But I didn't expect a literary epic from a game that is about as mechanically deep as left click, right click, loot with random stats. Oh and q for potion!


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Reply #155 on: November 08, 2012, 03:07:47 PM

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Reply #156 on: March 05, 2013, 01:22:35 PM

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What will they do in Diablo 4 come 2050 or so.


I don't ever think we'll see a D4.  Jay Wilson, and the harshness that followed him due to his firing from the position, showed Blizzard that you can't have a good looking piece of garbage (with both shitty drop rates and a shitty story).

I don't believe that you can have a game with good drop rates and no story, these days.  WoW has ruined that for us.   We're tired of making up stories, we want to be entertained.  But that's just my opinion.

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Reply #157 on: March 05, 2013, 01:30:59 PM

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What will they do in Diablo 4 come 2050 or so.


I don't ever think we'll see a D4.  Jay Wilson, and the harshness that followed him due to his firing from the position, showed Blizzard that you can't have a good looking piece of garbage (with both shitty drop rates and a shitty story).

I don't believe that you can have a game with good drop rates and no story, these days.  WoW has ruined that for us.   We're tired of making up stories, we want to be entertained.  But that's just my opinion.



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Reply #158 on: March 05, 2013, 02:25:18 PM

I don't need any story beyond "I need you to go kill everything in that place.  By the way, you can keep all the shit you find.  You're welcome."

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Reply #159 on: March 05, 2013, 03:33:51 PM

I just want the story to be about ME. I'm the one playing the damn game and saving the world.

I also don't want any parts of the story to be told in fucking novels before the game even releases.

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Reply #160 on: March 05, 2013, 10:35:42 PM

I also don't want any parts of the story to be told in fucking novels before the game even releases.
I must admit this pisses me off almost as much as anything else.  I was supposed to read a shitty novel that I've never heard of to understand what's going on?  I'm sorry but that is stupid.
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Reply #161 on: March 06, 2013, 06:49:09 AM

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What will they do in Diablo 4 come 2050 or so.


I don't ever think we'll see a D4.  Jay Wilson, and the harshness that followed him due to his firing from the position, showed Blizzard that you can't have a good looking piece of garbage (with both shitty drop rates and a shitty story).

I don't believe that you can have a game with good drop rates and no story, these days.  WoW has ruined that for us.   We're tired of making up stories, we want to be entertained.  But that's just my opinion.



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Path of Exile has a story, but you pretty much have to talk to all the NPCs about everything. But really there's not a lot to it so far since not all of the main game's acts are complete; you're an exile, duh. You're dumped on the shithole island of a former world-conquering power that mysteriously destroyed itself of its own hubris, and while fucking around playing hero to the locals you start catching hold of a plotline where the pricks who exiled you are on the island too looking for some awesome macguffin or another they're totally convinced they can control or use that totally won't summon some cthulumonster or turn their leader into a crazy god or some shit that you have to kill.

All the talking fills in the story of what happened to the eternal empire, then some bits of the people who came before them, then why you should probably hate this Piety chick you've been bumping into off and on. The backstory to the world is reasonably fleshed out so far, but ironically where it falls apart is why some of the classes give a shit since they decided to give them all a cursory backstory. Like half of the classes wouldn't give a shit to chase piety, even for "revenge".

Diablo 3 has had 2 games, bad novels, and a PnP game to flesh its world out and it makes it pretty clear why all the characters care. The star is a bad omen, oh shit the demons are back, you're the destined whatever naphalem, kill creepy bootydiablo. With like 2 really lame as shit twists.

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Reply #162 on: March 06, 2013, 08:55:40 AM

My point is just that with PoE you can basically ignore all the story and have a perfectly fun time playing the game.  The character building mechanics are the big draw.  If you care about the story you can find out more.  If you don't, its a nice monster killing romp.

Diablo 3 shoves the story down your throat at every opportunity to the point where it is too much.  First, every 10 minutes you get another quest or part of a quest. None of the quests are optional or can be done out of order (with the exception of the "events" you find as you go).  Then, after every handful of quests you get a cutscene recapping the story with a voice over.  It gives the whole experience a very lineral/on rails feeling that Diablo 2 avoided and even Diablo 1 managed to avoid even though it WAS extremely linear.


I actually like Diablo 3's combat, I think it is the best the genre has seen.  But in terms of how they present the story, I without a doubt prefer Path of Exile, even though the plot itself in PoE is quite thin.
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Reply #163 on: March 06, 2013, 10:35:51 PM

I agree the combat is good, that's why I keep playing it.

I miss the randomness the most though. I can play every map in my sleep at this point. War never changes.

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Reply #164 on: March 07, 2013, 12:45:31 AM

The story in D3 is best experienced with enthusiastic use of the spacebar.

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Reply #165 on: March 07, 2013, 07:31:18 AM

I agree the combat is good, that's why I keep playing it.

I miss the randomness the most though. I can play every map in my sleep at this point. War never changes.

Yeah, I definitely agree on the randomness point.  Even those areas which are "random" have pretty regular patterns.
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Reply #166 on: March 07, 2013, 01:36:31 PM

This is where D1 excelled, you had barely a handful of NPCs to talk to and the non-random portion of the game was tiny.
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Reply #167 on: March 08, 2013, 12:51:35 PM

Same complaint as City of Heroes and every game to attempt 'random' since 3-d became the norm instead of Sprites.  3d puzzle bits are harder to create and use in a real random fashion, as I understand it.  Bloodworth can expound on the reasons, I'm sure.

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Reply #168 on: March 08, 2013, 01:31:21 PM

Minecraft seems to do a fine job of it, though.

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Reply #169 on: March 08, 2013, 02:53:15 PM

Minecraft uses the same approach as sprites & tiles because of its bitcube nature.  "Random" in 3D is 1x1x1 cubes stacked instead of 1x1 tiles arrayed.

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Reply #170 on: March 09, 2013, 10:00:48 AM

Torchlight 1/2 and Path of Exile all do a better job of random levels. The only areas that didn't feel exactly the same to me were some of the indoor areas of Act 3...and that was about it really.

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