GW2 Bat Country

[Kitsune]

So, I bought the deluxe GW2 with the guild-boosting item in it and started thinking about what I was gonna do with the thing.  You can apparently belong to multiple guilds and flip between them at will, which is a frankly fantastic idea.  But any given guild can only be researching a few guildwide bonuses at any given time; no one guild can cover every base, so most people are going to need both a PvP and PvE guild that they swap between depending on what they're doing.  I'm planning on WvWing with the goons, who despite being retarded en masse usually have their act surprisingly together for PvP and will definitely have the numbers for that sort of thing.  That said, being good in a big fight doesn't really equate to being great company at other times, especially when 'faggot' is a verb, noun, pronoun, adjective, and adverb.

With that in mind, I propose focusing Bat Country on PvE.  We'll likely not have enough bodies to hold a keep of our own, so going into WvW as a guild would probably involve being beaten soundly on a regular basis, or resorting to recruiting random idiots who've never heard of F13.  Neither sounds like great fun, so we'd probably be better off carebearing it up where having smaller numbers won't be a detriment, as PvE content is apparently being focused on 5-person groups, tops.  If we all throw our various influence-boosting items into the pot right at the start, we can probably afford a goodly number of guild goodies on day one.

[Bann]

Id be interested in this. I also plunked down for the digital deluxe version, and f13 is about the only way I talk to other people who play games these days. Count me in!

[Lantyssa]

If they have guild banks, that'd be a good use for Bat Country alone.

[Sky]

It sounds like you want to roll on the goon server.

Unless everyone from BC gets an invite to a goon guild for pvp, I'm not sure that sounds like fun since pvp seems like a thing in this game.

I vote Lantyssa the GM of the GW2 chapter, since she's the rabiddest fanrabbi imo. Or fanrabbit. Whatever, she has prattled on more than most about it. 

[Kitsune]

It's my understanding that you have a "home" server for PvP but can switch servers at will.  You just can't switch sides in PvP.  If that's right it shouldn't matter which server the goons end up on.

[tazelbain]

I'd hate to give up on WvW because we can't bring a zerg because I don't think bringing the zerg will be required.  With the two-week reshuffle, I am more confident about Bat Country prospects than in any game to date. I think on some backwater server with no mega guild we will contribute. History has shown that f13.net fares significantly better than average.  There is a chance we could even dominate with EvE level participation.

A few other points:
Being on server with a mega guild is going to suck with the queue to WvW.
Why the hell would need pve guild perks in a game with a flat progression?

[Lantyssa]

I vote Lantyssa the GM of the GW2 chapter, since she's the rabiddest fanrabbi imo. Or fanrabbit. Whatever, she has prattled on more than most about it. 

This is revenge for me supporting you being GM in TOR.  I know it.

As long as I can be a figurehead and delegate all responsibilities, I'll consider it.  I'll probably be representing my friends' guilds most of the time though.

[Sky]

If we can get an eve-like level of organization, that would be awesome. The keep siege stuff seems pretty cool to me. I wonder how it would play out with a goonswarm vs something like Slayerik's PS outfit's organized smaller unit gameplay.

If only f13 didn't hate mmo so much   I'm trying to set aside enough money to get this at launch to hopefully play during the two months BC is active.

[Nebu]

I'd play with you guys at release, bu NO ONE EVER TALKS IN THE CHAT CHANNEL!!!!!!

[HaemishM]

Since I intend to play this unlike most of the MMO's that have released lately, yeah, I'm interested.

[Lantyssa]

I'd play with you guys at release, bu NO ONE EVER TALKS IN THE CHAT CHANNEL!!!!!!

I talk if others do.  If I do all the talking though, I start to feel like I'm hogging the channel with my idle chatter and causing everyone to turn the channel off.

[Nebu]

What about vent/mumble/TS etc?

[Lantyssa]

I loathe voice comms.

[Nebu]

I loathe voice comms.

 

[kildorn]

If I wanted to talk to people I wouldn't be playing games on the internets.

[Nevermore]

I'd play with you guys at release, bu NO ONE EVER TALKS IN THE CHAT CHANNEL!!!!!!

I talk if others do.  If I do all the talking though, I start to feel like I'm hogging the channel with my idle chatter and causing everyone to turn the channel off.

Lies!  She never talks! 

[Nebu]

If I wanted to talk to people I wouldn't be playing games on the internets.

Talking to people is the only way to make the horrible gameplay in MMO's tolerable.

[Nevermore]

If they're that horrible for you, why not just skip the game and talk to people? 

[Nebu]

If they're that horrible for you, why not just skip the game and talk to people? 

Because I hate real people.  I have to teach them all day for a living.  I prefer chatting with virtual people. 

[Lantyssa]

Lies!  She never talks! 

If others are talking I do!  I'm just lousy at initiating conversation.

Oh gods, don't cry.  Now I'm going to feel horrible. 

[Kitsune]

Why the hell would need pve guild perks in a game with a flat progression?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Influence

• In the Politics category, Influence may be used to purchase guild emblems, guild armor, buffs to increase influence gain, or guild party items.
• In the Economy category, Influence can buy guild-wide buffs to increase item drop rate, karma or experience gain, and other economic boosts.

Edit: And to expound for anyone too lazy to click on the wiki link for details, the WvW perks only benefit WvW play, but they're significant enough that I doubt any WvW guild would want to pass them up.  So focusing on PvE perks gets you more loot and more experience/reputation from PvE stuff.  It's a safe bet that both PvE and PvP guilds will max out the bonuses for guild vaults and such, as those seem to be permanent, but the other buffs are temporary and must be constantly in research to be maintained.

Edit edit: And I prefer voice comms when actually fighting in games; it's faster and leaves hands free to stay on the ball.  When not in a fight, typing's fine.  I don't want to have to be busy typing out, "Look out for that dragon behi-nevermind lol." when fireballs are flying everywhere.

[Furiously]

I'd hate to give up on WvW because we can't bring a zerg because I don't think bringing the zerg will be required.  With the two-week reshuffle, I am more confident about Bat Country prospects than in any game to date. I think on some backwater server with no mega guild we will contribute. History has shown that f13.net fares significantly better than average.  There is a chance we could even dominate with EvE level participation.

A few other points:
Being on server with a mega guild is going to suck with the queue to WvW.
Why the hell would need pve guild perks in a game with a flat progression?

I'm looking at the GW1 roster right now... Comstar and one other person are the only ones that have logged in during the last year. Schild at two years is the next runner up.... MY GOD PEOPLE! LOG in for your minipets!

[Kitsune]

MY GOD PEOPLE! LOG in for your minipets! to send Kitsune your minipets!

Had to make a quick change there.

But seriously, give me your veteran presents.  They can be worth hella lotta GW1 gold, which I can use to help get more points in my monument hall for GW2 vanity gear.

[01101010]

Never played GW1 and really have never had a pet fetish... which explains my void of Pokemon understanding.

However, I will be in this game at least until I tire of it. 

[Phred]

I think it would be novel if we plan this guild for the first month failure from the start. How, I dunno.

[Sjofn]

I'd play with you guys at release, bu NO ONE EVER TALKS IN THE CHAT CHANNEL!!!!!!

You have yet to be on a guild line with me at the same time, eh?


I'm still on the fence for if I'm getting this at release or not. Depends on what is happening in other shit I play when it finally releases, I guess, if it overlaps with something else I'm more excited about, it will LANGUISH until I'm at a lull, no doubt.

[schild]

We talked on vent all the time in WAR. What are you talking about, Nebu?

[Nebu]

We talked on vent all the time in WAR. What are you talking about, Nebu?

I don't even remember that.  Old age must be creeping up on me.  Did I even play with you guys?

[Feverdream]

I'd love to try a guild with f13.net folk, but I was thinking I'd get my PvE fix via WoW raiding since I really like my guild.  I was going to focus on PvP in GW2.

I'd PvE in GW2 if there is a truly good reason to do so.   It looks like there will be, but I want to be certain of that.

If I am crafting or questing or doing something similarly mindless, then chat channel is nice, and I use it all the time.  But I prefer to talk in Vent or on Mumble while playing.  If I'm PvPing it's too much of a pain to take the time to type stuff out.  If I'm doing serious PvE, it's also too much of a pain to type stuff out other than in a rudimentary fashion...and that doesn't make for very interesting or effective communication. 

[tmp]

I loathe voice comms.

[Sky]

I end up sounding like Ron Burgundy.

[Crumbs]

It's my understanding that you have a "home" server for PvP but can switch servers at will.  You just can't switch sides in PvP.  If that's right it shouldn't matter which server the goons end up on.

But if you switch servers, aren't you contributing to that other server's statistics without receiving the benefit?  Because I think you only get the benefit of your home server's stats. 

[Kitsune]

But if you switch servers, aren't you contributing to that other server's statistics without receiving the benefit?  Because I think you only get the benefit of your home server's stats. 

Wiki sayeth: A player may only fight in World vs World for their home server. When visiting other servers, the player only receives WvW world bonuses from the home server, not the server being visited.

Assuming that's correct and how it's gonna be in the game at release, there's no problem.  You run out and fight with your WvW guild, swap over to your PvE guild when you're done, and you'll still receive the bonuses earned by the WvW fighting you did, even if you've swapped servers to hang with the PvE folks.

[Slayerik]

If we can get an eve-like level of organization, that would be awesome. The keep siege stuff seems pretty cool to me. I wonder how it would play out with a goonswarm vs something like Slayerik's PS outfit's organized smaller unit gameplay.

If only f13 didn't hate mmo so much   I'm trying to set aside enough money to get this at launch to hopefully play during the two months BC is active.

Yeah, I do wonder as well. I think I'm going to try this out, for my hour or two a night I have free. I'll definitely join BC for whatever!

[Redgiant]

But if you switch servers, aren't you contributing to that other server's statistics without receiving the benefit?  Because I think you only get the benefit of your home server's stats. 

You cannot do WvW on a non-Home Server at all (and rightfully so), only PvE and Arenas/BGs (Structured). You account and all characters are homed to a single server, so if you think it is worth it to pay their fee to move your actual  Home Server elsewhere, then by all means go for it; but you cannot do it on a whim, temporarily or for only some of your account's characters. You will also likely suffer a time delay on getting any bonuses once you land on your new Home Server.

This is for various reasons: to prevent server-hopping for bonues, to continually go to a better-ranked server or guild, and to spy on the other side in a battle since in GW2 the other side == another server. Anyone who doesn't like this rule is probably prone to want to do one or more of the things I just mentioned.

They might allow a one-time Home Server switch, especially in early release, since everyone is just settling into their servers en mass.


As for the "I want to play with my friends" bullshit excuse for wanting free WvW server movement, anyone who didn't even know which server to pick ahead of time with their so-called close "friends" deserves to be fucking friendless.