Apparently they still care...

[luckton]

...at least enough to put out a patch every once in a blue moon.

http://forum.bloodbowl-game.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=987

Hello,

I know you are waiting some news concerning the patch, so here is the changelog.
We are just checking few things and the patch will be updated soon.

March is not finished !

- Fixed multiple issues with Saved Formations.
- Fixed an exploit where one could place more than 11 players on the pitch.
- Fixed Fan Factor changes at end of match.
- Fixed Pouring Rain modifer wrongly applied with Big Hand skill.
- Fixed an issue with Piling On freezing the game when a player has
been pushed out of field.
- Wizard: Can now only be used at the start of your turn or opponent turn.
- Blood Lust: Fixed invalid roll made when pushed back in opponent end
zone with ball / catching ball on end zone.
- Dump-Off: Fixed wrong throwing arrow range.
- Dump-Off: Cannot be used when player is hypnotized.
- Leap: Fixed an exploit allowing a player to move one extra square.

[EDIT] pmcc wrote:
The winning bug is fixed in a server update that should be deployed the same day of this client update.

Thank you for your patience,
Freki
BLOOD BOW

Yay saved formation fixes 

[Ingmar]

It only took them what, 2 years to fix the winnings bug? Allegedly.

[luckton]

So does that mean I can get my winnings 'before' I can hire any potential mercenaries that did me proud in the match, or was this something else?

[Ingmar]

No, I don't think that's a bug. The bug is where the game tells you one value for your winnings and then awards you something completely different. At least, I assume that's the bug they're talking about.

[IainC]

Hello,

- Fixed an exploit where one could place more than 11 players on the pitch.

I wonder if that will also fix the bug that randomly stops you setting up a full team and then drops the missing player on your back line once the ball is kicked?

[Sjofn]

Fuck, I hope so, I hate that bug.

[Modern Angel]

It's better than all that. New expansion announced. Chaos Pact, Underworld, probably Chaos Dwarves added.

edit: And that's totally one post down. Fffffff

[luckton]

It's better than all that. New expansion announced. Chaos Pact, Underworld, probably Chaos Dwarves added.

edit: And that's totally one post down. Fffffff

 

[Ruvaldt]

No Chaos Pact, sadly.  They could easily add it as they would only require the addition of a marauder model, but Cyanide has to save something for another release two years from now.   

[Ingmar]

I'm pretty sure at this point that Cyanide only employs one 3D modeler, and he's missing an arm.

[Ruvaldt]

Yeah, but that's an argument for Chaos Pact, not against it, because you can reuse every model but for one, the marauder.  They already have goblins, trolls, skaven, dark elves, minotaurs and ogres in-game and you could just reuse those models.  The new Daemons team is probably going to be all new art.  That's the only thing that bugs me about the announced features: that they're clearly leaving out Slann and Chaos Pact so that they have enough for another release in two years...which I will also buy.   

[Ingmar]

They said the Slann team was vetoed by GW fluff-keepers.

[Celer]

- Wizard: Can now only be used at the start of your turn or opponent turn.

I'd grown used to abusing that little stretch of the rules. 

And I still won't trust saved formations.  Burn me once...

[luckton]

Patch is being deployed now.  Steam update should be out tonight, or so they say.

[Sjofn]

- Wizard: Can now only be used at the start of your turn or opponent turn.

I'd grown used to abusing that little stretch of the rules. 

Oh dear, was that cheating? My bad! 

[Teleku]

Haha, yeah, I was never sure if I was missing something, because the BB rules always said to use it at the begining of the turn only, and the game has let you shoot it whenever you want for years.  Should have figured it was just a glaring bug that took them years to correct.   

[luckton]

Sooo...in comparing the notes posted above vs. the Steam update notes, it seems like they either dropped the ball on a number of things or just forgot to give Steam the proper list.

In any event, they also seemed to have made a number of undocumented changes, such as:

- In creating a new team; the team list is now alphabetical
- The Dark Elf team portrait icon is now a DE blitzer instead of a witch.
- There are two new generic team logos
- A few player models have been changed around.  Word is that Star Player Zara got a remodel, and necro werewolfs may have been changed.
- Players, when viewed in 3D on the team roster or on their individual cards, will now perform their TD animation in addition to the other random moves they make.
- Player models have also been shortened overall when on the field.  Appears to be a bug.
- Some code-digging has revealed plans for adding Dungeon Bowl to the game.  Maybe a Chaos Edition addon?

[Kail]

- Some code-digging has revealed plans for adding Dungeon Bowl to the game.  Maybe a Chaos Edition addon?

Looks like it's going to be a standalone spinoff title.  Kind of a variant of Blood Bowl where the game is played in a dungeon, each team has to wander around to find the ball before they can score with it.

[luckton]

What?  Those bullshitters...I'll put $50 bucks down that the 'stand-alone' title will just be using the same damn BB engine we've got now with some new skins.  Why not just integrate it with the same game?

[HaemishM]

That doesn't sound all that interesting to me.

[Ruvaldt]

I never played Dungeonbowl, but it did look like fun.  I'd say that it is different enough to warrant its own standalone title.  They'll be using the same engine though, I'm sure.

[Ingmar]

I don't see why it is at all surprising considering that "adding one new team" is a new standalone game for Cyanide.

[eldaec]

They said the Slann team was vetoed by GW fluff-keepers.

If true, the correct response would be to make the new team functionally identical to slann and then send GW a gift basket with a card reading "fuck you, fluff keepers!".

Or something.

[Teleku]

I'm actually happy they are not doing chaos pact.  Just started reading upon them, and they seem really OP.  My guess is that they decided to make there own more balanced team in its place.  Then with the Slann veto from GW, that would explain the new team line up.

[luckton]

What I don't understand, from what I've read/researched, is that the Fluff-keepers UNANIMOUSLY elected to have the CP, Slann and Underworld teams allowed in legal play.  Why would they not allow them in this case, but rather let Cyanide create their very own team from scratch?

[IainC]

I'm actually happy they are not doing chaos pact.  Just started reading upon them, and they seem really OP.  My guess is that they decided to make there own more balanced team in its place.  Then with the Slann veto from GW, that would explain the new team line up.

Given that they can't make clickable areas the same size as button graphics and have apparently never heard of UI design, I'm not holding out for much hope that they'll turn out to be good at balancing new things.

[Teleku]

What I don't understand, from what I've read/researched, is that the Fluff-keepers UNANIMOUSLY elected to have the CP, Slann and Underworld teams allowed in legal play.  Why would they not allow them in this case, but rather let Cyanide create their very own team from scratch?

From what I gathered, it was the cabal of rule makers at GW that unanimously voted to ok the teams when they got together.  However, the fluff-masters and higher ups at GW vetoed the teams being allowed into the official living rule book.  Soooo, they are sort of in a grey area.  Leagues will take them, but GW also officially disavows them from the official rules. 

Also, from what I can see specifically concerning Slann, the way the team portrays them goes back to how they were originally portrayed a long time ago.  Since then, the official fluff has changed what the Slann are like quite a bit at this point, so they don't want to old style coming back.

[Megrim]

I'm actually happy they are not doing chaos pact.  Just started reading upon them, and they seem really OP.  My guess is that they decided to make there own more balanced team in its place.  Then with the Slann veto from GW, that would explain the new team line up.

As I understand it, Pact is a really mixed bag performance-wise. They are very strong on paper, but suffer from the same sort of issues that the Human team does. i.e. they have an answer to everything, but trying to cover all your bases tends to thin out winnings consistency. On top of that, they have some brutal negatrait combinations to account for as well.

[eldaec]

There is no official fluff on BB slann, WFB and BB are officially, per fluff, different universes.

The reason those teams were vetoed in lrb6 was that GW didn't have a set of ridiculous overpriced pewter models to go with them.

[Ingmar]

We're not speculating with the fluff thing, that was actually said by one of the Cyanide people in one of those linked threads. Mind you it may still be bullshit, but it is semi-official bullshit in any case. It isn't with regard to LRB6 though, just their inclusion in the video game.

[Ruvaldt]

It's just an excuse to have another two teams for another Cyanide Blood Bowl release a year a and a half from now.  Which I will also buy.