NFL 2012

[Paelos]

I'd take the KC job with the caveat of a 5 year contract minimum, a huge buyout, and that they got a new GM. All these things came to pass. It's a good job under those conditions. It's not like the AFC West is fucking gangbusters for the next decade. Peyton won't last that long. And how shitty was Pioli? When will people in the NFL learn that unless you have actual Belichick, the guy that worked with the guy is going to suck ass. Let's review the terrible decisions shall we?

1 - Hired Todd Haley as head coach after firing Herm Edwards
2 - Gave a backup from the Patriots (and a USC QB) a $62M contract for 6 years. He had a 66.7 passer rating in 2012, only playing 9 games.
3 - Gave away Tony Gonzalez to the Atlanta Falcons
4 - Hired Charlie Weiss as an OC, and Romeo Crennel as DC, fired Haley, promoted Crennel, and then fired Weiss and Crennel.
5 - Refusing to Draft decent offensive personnel: Picked Tyson Jackson, a DE from LSU, as the #3 overall pick in 2009. Could have had BJ Raji, Clay Matthews, or Brian Orakpo. Even the Sanchize was available! Took Eric Berry (great pick) in 2010 with the #5 pick. Bear in mind that Cassel had a 69 passer rating at this point, and had no blocking with only Dwayne Bowe to catch. KC scored 18 points a game in 2009, but offense be damned. In 2011, he took Jonny Baldwin a WR with the 26th pick, who subsequently got into a fight in the lockerroom and broke his wrist, thus missing the entire season. In 2012, he took a DT in the first round. KC scored a league worst 13 points a game.

[Malakili]

Any word on who might get the Philly job?  I heard Chip Kelly's name mentioned, but it doesn't seem like a good fit to me.

[sickrubik]

It sounds like Cleveland REALLY wants Kelly.

Eagles seem lukewarm on him.

[Paelos]

Kelly in Cleveland would be so very funny.

[Trippy]

Why? Could KC be any worse?

It would've been if Pioli didn't just get fired. This is what it was like in KC under Pioli:

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14/3371495/arrowhead-anxiety-turnover-off.html

[Paelos]

Ah yes, I forgot to mention the Edgar J wiretapping going on under Pioli. Good stuff. I should have put that in the list.

[Chimpy]

I don't know why anyone would want the KC job unless it came with buckets more money than you could get anywhere else. 

See the below quote.

I would wager at least half his compensation will be in barbecue.

About the only thing I miss about living KC (esp now when I am hungry) is the BBQ.

[sickrubik]

Ian Rappoport of NFL.com is reporting Browns deal with Kelly just about done.

[WayAbvPar]

Thank Christ. Fuck Oregon.

[Ingmar]

Yesssss.

[Paelos]

It solves one of Cal's problems. Too bad there's still like, a billion left.   

[Chimpy]

Ponder inactive tonight wooo!

[Paelos]

Oh Dalton. AJ Green was wide fucking open. 

[HaemishM]

Cincy got dominated and yet Houston couldn't really seal the game off. They should have won by like 30-something points but didn't. Their passing game is really not this bad but something just seems off with them. I don't expect them to beat New England next week, as Brady will NOT go down quietly like Dalton.

Once I heard Ponder wasn't going to start tonight, I knew the Pack had it in the bag. Webb is not a bad QB, just inaccurate and inexperienced. Ponder is at least more accurate. Of course, the way they bottled up AP, the Vikes had no chance anyway. If the Packers can beat the 49ers (BIG if), I don't really fear anyone else in this playoffs.

[Cyrrex]

Once I heard Ponder wasn't going to start tonight, I knew the Pack had it in the bag. Webb is not a bad QB, just inaccurate and inexperienced. Ponder is at least more accurate. Of course, the way they bottled up AP, the Vikes had no chance anyway. If the Packers can beat the 49ers (BIG if), I don't really fear anyone else in this playoffs.

You know what, though?  On Minnesota's first offensive drive, they ran that pistol formation and I said to myself "uh oh, they are going to score 45 goddamn points if they keep that up" because Green Bay had no idea what to do with it.  Peterson would have ran for 200 again, and Webb might have got a 100 himself.  And then, inexplicably, they stopped doing it.  I don't remember seeing it for the rest of the game.  Leslie Frazier is a fucking idiot, because that was the only chance they had, and it was working.

[Paelos]

Minnesota kept giving the Pack first downs on penalties as well. I felt that was the biggest morale killer for them.

[ghost]

There's a reason that Leslie Frazier won't be retained past his current contract (and very well may be fired soon). 

[naum]

Once I heard Ponder wasn't going to start tonight, I knew the Pack had it in the bag. Webb is not a bad QB, just inaccurate and inexperienced. Ponder is at least more accurate. Of course, the way they bottled up AP, the Vikes had no chance anyway. If the Packers can beat the 49ers (BIG if), I don't really fear anyone else in this playoffs.

You know what, though?  On Minnesota's first offensive drive, they ran that pistol formation and I said to myself "uh oh, they are going to score 45 goddamn points if they keep that up" because Green Bay had no idea what to do with it.  Peterson would have ran for 200 again, and Webb might have got a 100 himself.  And then, inexplicably, they stopped doing it.  I don't remember seeing it for the rest of the game.  Leslie Frazier is a fucking idiot, because that was the only chance they had, and it was working.

So odd that they abandoned it, and odder that they changed even before the Packers introduced any adjustments (thought that Packer D could just pack 8 guys up front and it would nix it, challenge Webb to throw downfield -- although that might have opened up Peterson crack a big run too) but Frazier discarded the only O they had in their playbook repertoire that could possibly work. Even down 2 scores, it seemed they panicked, and should have stuck to their gameplan. Unless that was just an opening gimmick.

[sickrubik]

Yeah, so, Browns not landing Chip Kelly now, and that Kelly will end up with the Eagles or stay in Oregon.

However, in REAL news, Doug Marrone signed on to be Bill's next coach.

[Paelos]

Let me be the first in saying, who?

[01101010]

Yeah, so, Browns not landing Chip Kelly now, and that Kelly will end up with the Eagles or stay in Oregon.

However, in REAL news, Doug Marrone signed on to be Bill's next coach.

Browns  - keeping with the tradition.

[Chimpy]

I don't think Chip Kelly will leave Oregon this year. I could be wrong though.

I find it amusing that the Bears are looking to the CFL for a head coach though 

[ghost]

I'm expecting he will because It looks as though Oregon is going to get the hammer of doom from the NCAA. 

[Ginaz]

I don't think Chip Kelly will leave Oregon this year. I could be wrong though.

I find it amusing that the Bears are looking to the CFL for a head coach though 

Marc Trestman has extensive NFL experience.  He's also been very successful in the CFL.  Would having a coach with lots of experience with professional players not be better than one that has only coached college kids?  Its much easier getting young college players to do what you want rather than millionaire professionals.  I've seen a lot of highly regarded college coaches flop big time in the NHL because they can't handle the transition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman

[Nebu]

So odd that they abandoned it, and odder that they changed even before the Packers introduced any adjustments (thought that Packer D could just pack 8 guys up front and it would nix it, challenge Webb to throw downfield -- although that might have opened up Peterson crack a big run too) but Frazier discarded the only O they had in their playbook repertoire that could possibly work. Even down 2 scores, it seemed they panicked, and should have stuck to their gameplan. Unless that was just an opening gimmick.

Webb is terrible.  I knew the moment that he stepped on the field that Green Bay would win.  Ponder may not be great, but he's a much more poised pocket passer and that's exactly what AP needs to set up the run. 

[HaemishM]

Fuck, Cleveland, you seriously want to look at WHISENHUNT for HC? Really? After the colossal fuckup that was the last two years in Arizona? Sure, he got them to the Super Bowl... or I should say, KURT WARNER got them to the Super Bowl before almost getting killed. Whisenhunt had like 4 or 5 years to get a decent offensive line and the only thing it was offensive to was his QB's health. And THAT'S the guy you like?

Failboat.

[K9]

So odd that they abandoned it, and odder that they changed even before the Packers introduced any adjustments (thought that Packer D could just pack 8 guys up front and it would nix it, challenge Webb to throw downfield -- although that might have opened up Peterson crack a big run too) but Frazier discarded the only O they had in their playbook repertoire that could possibly work. Even down 2 scores, it seemed they panicked, and should have stuck to their gameplan. Unless that was just an opening gimmick.

Webb is terrible.  I knew the moment that he stepped on the field that Green Bay would win.  Ponder may not be great, but he's a much more poised pocket passer and that's exactly what AP needs to set up the run. 

To cut the guy a little slack, this is the first game he has played this season, against the second best overall defense in the NFL. He may not be great, but there are a bunch of starting QBs who have done a lot worse this season under far less demanding conditions.

Ravens up against the Colts at the half, I'm a bit surprised, I still think the Colts will come through it in the second half and win though.

[01101010]

Fuck, Cleveland, you seriously want to look at WHISENHUNT for HC? Really? After the colossal fuckup that was the last two years in Arizona? Sure, he got them to the Super Bowl... or I should say, KURT WARNER got them to the Super Bowl before almost getting killed. Whisenhunt had like 4 or 5 years to get a decent offensive line and the only thing it was offensive to was his QB's health. And THAT'S the guy you like?

Failboat.

All we got are short straws left. Why on earth we are not considering Lovie is beyond my comprehension.

[Paelos]

Colts without their real head coach from the regular season wasn't going to end well. I would have liked to see that match with Arians on the sidelines.

[Paelos]

Shannahan gives me yet another reason to hate his guts even more. I think RG3 just did something really bad to that knee. He shouldn't have been out there in the second half.

[Malakili]

That looked like an ACL injury to me.

[Trippy]

I find it amusing that the Bears are looking to the CFL for a head coach though 

Marc Trestman has extensive NFL experience.  He's also been very successful in the CFL.  Would having a coach with lots of experience with professional players not be better than one that has only coached college kids?  Its much easier getting young college players to do what you want rather than millionaire professionals.  I've seen a lot of highly regarded college coaches flop big time in the NHL because they can't handle the transition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman

Trestman is considered a quarterback guru, though not in the same league as Gruden, and the Bears need somebody to help Cutler develop.

[Chimpy]

They need an offensive line to help keep him alive first 

[Trippy]

True.

[JWIV]

Colts without their real head coach from the regular season wasn't going to end well. I would have liked to see that match with Arians on the sidelines.

Would have been interesting, though they made the right adjustments at the right times (countering the constant blitzes with bubble screens and the like).  The big problem is they got down and had to abandon the running game which they were killing the Ravens and instead ask a rookie to throw over 50 times in a game.  You can't do that.