NFL 2012

[Trippy]

It's going to be another Patriots vs. Giants Super Bowl

[Paelos]

I can't take Houston seriously anymore. OT wins against Jax and Detroit, then you give up 42 again to the Pats after doing it at home against the Packers? They truly are the Atlanta Falcons of the AFC.

[Malakili]

What Houston team did I just watch? 

Patriots are starting to get scary.  If their defense can lock in like that they are going to be a tough out.

[Paelos]

Schaub's folded like a lawn chair now against the Pack, Bears, and Pats. On the road he's thrown 9 TDs, and 5 picks. FOUR of those TDs came against one team, the Broncos. There's a 20 point gap in his passer rating between the home/road games.

I mean if they have to set foot on anybody else's turf in the post-season, it's over. Meanwhile Rodgers is passing at 111.1 rating on the road...WHAT?

[Draegan]

You are right, one player in a vacumn doesn't make or break a team. My arguement is that in terms of how many plays a WR has to make vs a lineman it's simply ineffecient to draft a WR with a high pick. The only reason the Pats drafted TE's in the first round were because TE's are also useful in the blocking game (though Ben Watson and Daniel GRaham turned out to be mediocre anyway). This is essentially a statistical value premise and statistics only go so far but they sure do make a good starting point.

Then you need WRs who can run routes, HBs who can actually block, QBs who will make throws or get rid of the ball quick instead of tryin to be a hero on every play, coaches who can coach o-line and so forth.

I agree, you build a football team from the foundation up.  The foundation is the O/D line.

[Draegan]

It's going to be another Patriots vs. Giants Super Bowl

As a Giants fan, I hope not.  Say the Giants make it, I'd like to see some variety!

[Draegan]

The Dolphins are one good wideout (maybe two) from being the playoffs. That team has probably done more with less this year than anybody.

Hmm not quite yet.  They would have to compete with Bengals, Steelers, (or Ravens, depending who takes the division) and the Colts because they aren't winning the Division as long as Brady is playing.

Not saying it's impossible because anything is possible in the NFL but I wouldn't put money on it.

[shiznitz]

The Dolphins are one good wideout (maybe two) from being the playoffs. That team has probably done more with less this year than anybody.

One could argue they have a QB issue as well.  McNabb - who was not a great QB - managed to do pretty well with no-name WRs most years.  Maclin and Avant were late round pickups, iirc.

[sickrubik]

No-name does not mean unskilled.

And don't forget.. Dolphins DID have Marshall.

[HaemishM]

What Houston team did I just watch? 

The one that plays big teams on night games. 

That shit was just unwatchable. I turned it off after the Pats got 28 points. Their defense isn't so bad they give up a 3 TD lead in the 3rd quarter. The fact that Houston couldn't fucking run the ball for shit just killed them, along with dropped passes and poor QB play.

As for Brandon Jacobs, he's bitching about playing time and I'm thinking... "WHY DID YOU SIGN WITH THE 49ers?" It isn't like they needed a running back. They had 3 great/decent running backs, none of whom are notorious for shitting the bed or getting injured. What the fuck made you think that situation was going to lead to playing time? Surely there was somewhere he could have gone that would have given him a better chance to play. Green Bay would love him about now. Detroit? Anywhere but San Fran.

[sickrubik]

Taglibue Vacates All Player Discipline

In short, Tagliabue upholds the evidence, but hangs the blame on the coaching staff.

[HaemishM]

Wow, that's a chickenshit decision if ever there was one. "You did wrong, but you was only following orders!"

Talk about CYA Let's Keep the NFL Out of a Lawsuit thinking.

[Draegan]

What Houston team did I just watch? 

The one that plays big teams on night games. 

That shit was just unwatchable. I turned it off after the Pats got 28 points. Their defense isn't so bad they give up a 3 TD lead in the 3rd quarter. The fact that Houston couldn't fucking run the ball for shit just killed them, along with dropped passes and poor QB play.

As for Brandon Jacobs, he's bitching about playing time and I'm thinking... "WHY DID YOU SIGN WITH THE 49ers?" It isn't like they needed a running back. They had 3 great/decent running backs, none of whom are notorious for shitting the bed or getting injured. What the fuck made you think that situation was going to lead to playing time? Surely there was somewhere he could have gone that would have given him a better chance to play. Green Bay would love him about now. Detroit? Anywhere but San Fran.

If he had stayed in NY he would of gotten more money too.

[Nevermore]

If he had stayed in NY he would of gotten more money too.

Would he of? 

[Draegan]

Why, you don't think he should of?

[Nevermore]

With them drafting David Wilson, no he should not of.

[Segoris]

I don't think he would have received a raise, but also I don't think Wilson would have been the reason for it. They drafted Wilson almost 2 months after cutting Jacobs, while there was still plenty of talent on the board in other positions NYG could have used if Jacobs was still on the roster.

[Ingmar]

would have

c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker

[sickrubik]

Here's my crazy take on the rest of the season, via ESPN's Playoff Machine thing: http://tinyurl.com/n8nflw15

[K9]

Pats losing at home to the 49ers?

[Cyrrex]

Nice little tool.  But yeah, mine comes out a little differently.  Surprised to see that I will have both the Giants and the Redskins in the playoffs, but the big unknown here is what RG3 will be able to do over the next few weeks.  If he can't run...

[sickrubik]

Pats losing at home to the 49ers?

Yup. I think the Niners will get pressure on Brady and force some turnovers. It'll be close, but I feel that the Niners pull it off.

Nice little tool.  But yeah, mine comes out a little differently.  Surprised to see that I will have both the Giants and the Redskins in the playoffs, but the big unknown here is what RG3 will be able to do over the next few weeks.  If he can't run...

The schedule is still pretty easy, and Griffin's a good QB as well, with Garcon coming off VERY strong in the last few weeks. But yes, it is still a huge question mark.

[Cyrrex]

Griffin as a serious threat to run in that pistol/option formation is what other teams can't deal with.  A slightly gimpy Griffin as a pocket passer?  Yes, he's still pretty good, but the talent around him doesn't hold up quite as well.  I wonder if Morris will be as effective if RG3 isn't acting as a runner and/or a diversion.  Or shit, maybe his knee will be just fine and he'll run like gangbusters.

[Paelos]

Philly was in that game last night. Then they went butterfingers. 

[sickrubik]

Griffin as a serious threat to run in that pistol/option formation is what other teams can't deal with.  A slightly gimpy Griffin as a pocket passer?  Yes, he's still pretty good, but the talent around him doesn't hold up quite as well.  I wonder if Morris will be as effective if RG3 isn't acting as a runner and/or a diversion.  Or shit, maybe his knee will be just fine and he'll run like gangbusters.

RG3 isn't really a diversion for Alfred Morris, as Morris only has 42 receiving yards. The threat with a player like RG3 is the defense having to drop down to contain him and leaving his receivers open.

Morris, in some capacity, could be better with RG3 in there, as long as the passing game stays solid. If the OL can stand up, and removing RG3 as a runner, you could see Morris climb to 150 and 2.

[Shannow]

It's going to be another Patriots vs. Giants Super Bowl

As a Giants fan, I hope not.  Say the Giants make it, I'd like to see some variety!

As a Pats fan, I agree..who wants to see the Giants in the superbowl again anyway? 

[Chimpy]

..who wants to see the Giants in the superbowl again anyway? 

A hell of a lot more people than want to see the Patriots in the SuperBowl. 

[Paelos]

Denver's gonna win the AFC and play in the Super Bowl, don't worry.

[Shannow]

..who wants to see the Giants in the superbowl again anyway? 

A hell of a lot more people than want to see the Patriots in the SuperBowl. 

But I don't care about those people...

[Shannow]

Denver's gonna win the AFC and play in the Super Bowl, don't worry.

Not if the AFC championship game is in Foxboro they won't ...

And could we all agree that the only thing worse than a Giants - Pats superbowl again would be a Manning Bowl? The buildup will be insufferable.

[sickrubik]

Denver's gonna win the AFC and play in the Super Bowl, don't worry.

Not if the AFC championship game is in Foxboro they won't ...

And could we all agree that the only thing worse than a Giants - Pats superbowl again would be a Manning Bowl? The buildup will be insufferable.

But it would be a Super Manning Super Bowl. ELI VS PEYTON IN NEW ORLEANS, WHERE THEY GREW UP.

I can see the endless video package now...

[Shannow]

Oh god I forgot it was in New Orleans. You know in fact go ahead, give us a Manning bowl, maybe ESPN will implode.

[WayAbvPar]

Early February is probably the wrong time of year for a hurricane, but maybe global warming will help us out.

[sickrubik]

Early February is probably the wrong time of year for a hurricane, but maybe global warming will help us out.

Tsk. You're a terrible human. I, personally, would say that ANY time of year is the wrong time of year for a hurricane.

Tsk.

[Shannow]

Hey maybe the falcons will beat the Giants in the playoffs....

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Aww come on it could happen right?


Right?