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JWIV
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I can usually tell a lot about a QB from his ability to make throws when they matter, and Weedon has it. His receivers have hung him out to dry, but the kid can make plays. He's got the right mentality and above the shoulders decision-making you need. He'll improve on the latter with even more time in the league, and his arm is fine.
Weedon's limited by 2 things:
1 - Clevelands running game is awful. He's getting blitzed like crazy because nobody believes in the Brown's ability to get yardage on the ground. Richardson is a rookie, and he will get better, but dear lord the offensive line is a disaster. They've had to throw the ball 167 times to 75 runs because their running average is only 3.5 from Trent (35th in the league), and they are usually behind. Trent's good up close, but he's not going to help you move down the field.
2 - Greg Little is a dipshit. He needs to take this job seriously, or get the hell off the football field. Quit dancing. Quit posing. MAKE CATCHES! He's been targetted 25 times and only have 11 catches. Also he has only 9 YAC on those 11 receptions? NINE?!?! Dude, get open and move around. Make a play. Do something to help out your QB.
Pretty much this. Weedon and Richardson both look really solid, but holy fuck find someone, ANYONE, to throw to.
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HaemishM
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McCoy doesn't have nearly the arm that Weedon has.
Which matters fuckall if your receivers can't catch what you throw, or if you can't make a throw because a defensive lineman has crawled up your bunghole. Weedon may well be the next Bernie Kosar, but it won't matter until the pieces around him are good enough to make him better. McCoy was a perfectly serviceable franchise QB on a team that had any talent whatsoever.
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McCoy doesn't have nearly the arm that Weedon has.
Which matters fuckall if your receivers can't catch what you throw, or if you can't make a throw because a defensive lineman has crawled up your bunghole. Weedon may well be the next Bernie Kosar, but it won't matter until the pieces around him are good enough to make him better. McCoy was a perfectly serviceable franchise QB on a team that had any talent whatsoever. And I think he's still younger than Weedon. I still wasn't all that impressed with him, but you're right. It's tough for anyone to be good with that shitstain of a team.
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Chimpy
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You guys do know that his last name has no 'o' in it, right? 
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'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes.
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Nope.  And I can't be bothered to look it up because I really don't give a shit.
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slog
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HaemishM
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Ahhh, the NFL. Glad the real refs are back. Now they need to go to fucking class to re-learn what offensive pass interference and fumbles look like.
Watched the Packers/Saints game. The good news? The Packers won in thoroughly unconvincing fashion. The Saints defense is really fucking bad, but their offense while good, is still just not clicking together. They make really dumb mistakes, and their running game is not working at all. If the Packers could consistently remember who is supposed to cover who, the game wouldn't have been close. Also, the refs gave New Orleans their first TD even though Colston CLEARLY pushed his defender over. No call. Then, in the 4th quarter, Sproles clearly fumbles the goddamn kickoff after the Packers took the lead and yet the refs said he was down by contact. Some really bad calls in that one.
So Mark Sanchez? Yeah, that's the Sanchez when he doesn't have any sort of running game to take the heat off of him. 103 yards and 1 INT? And Holmes may now be hurt? Tim Tebow isn't going to help this train wreck at all but I'm sure they'll give it a try. Their running backs just aren't consistently good enough for the offense they are trying to run, and now Sanchez doesn't even have Burress to throw to. I relish the QQ when they replace their expensive ass franchise QB with The Jesus Train only to watch him complete 5 out of 20 passes and win games in the fourth quarter by a half point because GOD LOVES TIM TEBOW!
Minnesota and the Lions is just WTF? The Lions special teams is apparently a hazmat zone. Minnesota is 3-1, having beat a good SF team and now the Lions? Matthew Stafford has lost his accuracy, and suddenly not having a running game or a defensive backfield or any sort of discipline is really hindering this team. Who knew those things were important?
Buffalo's defense is a horror show. Almost 600 yards offense given up, and they blew a 14 point lead to get BLOWN THE FUCK OUT. I think the Pats just scored again. How do you spend as much money as they did on defense and have a game like that, as well as their loss to the Jets? Maybe Fitzpatrick throwing 4 picks had a little something to do with it, but shit.
The Giants might be as bad as 2-2 but the Eagles are NOT a 3-1 team. The only thing they did right last night was not turn the ball over, and have one good drive on Shady McCoy's back. The rest of the time it was two teams trying to outsorry each other. Both these teams need to learn to pass block and the Giants need to find a running game against decent defenses.
Speaking of shitty defenses, Carolina ROOFLES. Get a lead, can't hold it, and speaking of can't hold it, FUMBLES. The NFC South is Atlanta's to lose what with no one within 3 game of them. Suddenly the NFC South is the new NFC West. One powerhouse and three inept pushovers.
RGIII is all that and a bag of chips. Four games and he just lights up the fucking stat line. Too bad they don't have the defense they did last year because if they did, this might be a surefire playoff team. As it is, they will be fun to watch and might make the playoffs if they do well against their divisional opponents.
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So Mark Sanchez? Yeah, that's the Sanchez when he doesn't have any sort of running game to take the heat off of him. 103 yards and 1 INT? And Holmes may now be hurt? Tim Tebow isn't going to help this train wreck at all but I'm sure they'll give it a try. Their running backs just aren't consistently good enough for the offense they are trying to run, and now Sanchez doesn't even have Burress to throw to. I relish the QQ when they replace their expensive ass franchise QB with The Jesus Train only to watch him complete 5 out of 20 passes and win games in the fourth quarter by a half point because GOD LOVES TIM TEBOW!
I suppose it's better than losing in the fourth quarter, because god clearly hates Mark Sanchez. 
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HaemishM
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I think it's quite clear God is a Giants' fan.
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Paelos
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Here are some hilarious truths about Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow, comparatively.
Who has the better career QB rating? - Oddly enough it's Tebow with a 75.2 to Sanchez's 72.9 Who has a better winning percentage? - Actually it's Sanchez due to his 2010 winning season and playoff wins. Who had the worse season? - Sanchez's 2009 season was by far the worst. A 63 QB rating. Who had the worst game? - Tebow once lost 3-7 against KC with a 20 QB rating, but Sanchez once lost to Buffalo in OT with a QB rating of 8. EIGHT! Who had the best game? - Sanchez in 2010 beat NE with 200 yards and 3 TDs, no picks. Tebow's best is the Pitt OT win: 300 yards and 2 TDs. Advantage Sanchez since 80 Tebow yards was dump pass. Who is better at home? - In 2011, Sanchez had 16/9 TD/INT with 1800 yards. Tebow was 3/3 TD/INT with 845 yards, and 327 yard rushing with 4 TDs. Advantage Sanchez. Who is better on the road? - In 2011, Sanchez was 10/9 TD/INT with 1650 yards. Tebow as 9/3 TD/INT with 880 yards, 300+ ground, and 2 rushing TDs. Advantage Tebow.
The answer is simple. Play Sanchez at home, Tebow on the road. That is unless the opponent is the Pats then you always play Sanchez. If the Steelers, always play Tebow. If you play one of the Harbaughs, fucking forfeit.
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Trippy
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Also, always play Tebow in the 4th quarter if behind.
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HaemishM
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Also, always play Tebow in the 4th quarter if behind.
With this Jets team, I think that'll be every game whether Tebow or Sanchez is the starter.
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sickrubik
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People might want to go back and look at how well Tebow did late in the season.
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beer geek.
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Paelos
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People might want to go back and look at how well Tebow did late in the season.
Terrible. His worst game was against the Chiefs on the last day of the season
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Nebu
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Tebow is terrible. The Jets best option would be to buy a QB away from another team.
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Paelos
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Or draft one out of the craptacular class of QBs coming out. That would be just their speed.
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Ingmar
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USC has a QB coming out, it's fate.
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sickrubik
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People might want to go back and look at how well Tebow did late in the season.
Terrible. His worst game was against the Chiefs on the last day of the season I should point out, that that was what I was getting at. Mostly responding to trippy.
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beer geek.
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Wow. That was an atrocious performance by Mr. Romo and his offensive brethren.
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Paelos
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Yep. The Cowboys have major issues, and they won't get solved by just fixing the O line. We're still tied to one of the most inconsistent QBs in the league, and Dez fucking Bryant.
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Cyrrex
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And not least of all: Fuck the Cowboys.
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You know, Romo has a shitload of talent. I don't understand what he has going on that allows him to continually have these shitbag games. I personally love seeing the Boys of Cow suck ass, but he's borderline ridiculous. I wonder if he wouldn't be better off with another team.
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Bunk
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As a Bears fan: How 'bought them Cowboys!
I've figured out the secret, I just need to bench Cutler in my Fantasy league like I did this week.
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Paelos
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You know, Romo has a shitload of talent. I don't understand what he has going on that allows him to continually have these shitbag games. I personally love seeing the Boys of Cow suck ass, but he's borderline ridiculous. I wonder if he wouldn't be better off with another team.
QB is a mental position, not just a talent position. Romo doesn't make great decisions, nor do I think he'll ever get better at it. However, the offensive line is a trainwreck. It was a trainwreck in the preseason, it's a trainwreck now. Dez Bryant needs to just go away. He's a moron who can't figure out the playbook, act like a professional, or recognize the coverage. Romo's tossing picks because he's got zero time to get free and make a decision, let alone make a good one.
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Romo clearly has the ability to make good decisions. In some games he's flawless. He probably needs to get a sports psychologist. Or a new coach.
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HaemishM
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Romo is a "GUNSLINGER." Which, BTW, if I could remove that fucking label from the football lexicon, I would. It's code for "he's got great fucking ability and the decision-making skills of a functional fucking retard."
Gunslingers will either have a great game or a bad one, depending on how shitty their O line is, how open their receivers are and whether or not they sent a photo text of their johnson to some hot chick last night. Very few gunslingers will ever be good enough to lead a team to a Super Bowl, and then only when they have a superstar wideout, a functional running game AND a defense that can survive their gunslingers mistakes. The Cowboys have none of those things on a consistent basis. Sometimes their defense is good - last night it was not - though how could it be with 5 short field possessions to deal with. Their running game can shine - but not against a good defense. Their wideouts are only stars against bad teams or when they haven't beaten their mothers in the past week.
The sooner Jerry Jones realizes he's overpaid for 90% of that roster and blows it up, the better. Romo needs a better supporting cast, period, or he will continue to be mercurial.
Incidentally, I could say the same thing about Cutler in this game. He's the exact same type of player, only he's not likeable like Romo - he's a Cuntfaced Douchenozzle begging for his former tight end O coordinator to fucking flatten him.
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Nebu
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Dallas needs an offensive live that is cohesive and a decent RB. They have the other tools. Witten rocks. Austin is fine. Bryant needs to get traded.
I honestly think that Jerry Jones should fine Romo for every ball thrown over 15 yards. He doesn't see the game well enough to throw downfield.
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I hate Jay Cutler. He's the worst human being on the planet. 
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Paelos
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Dallas needs an offensive live that is cohesive and a decent RB. They have the other tools. Witten rocks. Austin is fine. Bryant needs to get traded.
I honestly think that Jerry Jones should fine Romo for every ball thrown over 15 yards. He doesn't see the game well enough to throw downfield.
I honestly think that Jerry Jones should do all us Cowboys fans a favor and drink a mixed cocktail of whatever he finds under the sink.
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HaemishM
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That won't just help Cowboys fans. 
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Bunk
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I hate Jay Cutler. He's the worst human being on the planet.  A friend who is a fellow Bears fan sent me this text this morning: "Just read on nfl.com that ex Bear Tommie Harris was charged with urinating in public. The media is speculating that its Jay Cutler's fault."
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Fucking straight it was. 
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HaemishM
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Santonio Holmes out for the yearThe Jets are fucked, and New England can now run the fuck away with the AFC East. The Jets signed a veteran wideout I've never heard of to help out. Why not just toss money at T.O. or Ochocinco or even Burress? They'll likely be a damn sight better than anything else on that team and it's not like Rex Ryan doesn't love assholes on his team. Get prepared for the wheels on this bus to catch on fire before they fall the fuck right off.
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Paelos
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The Jets need a good crash and burn. They've been getting too cocky for too long.
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Santonio Holmes out for the yearThe Jets are fucked, and New England can now run the fuck away with the AFC East. The Jets signed a veteran wideout I've never heard of to help out. Why not just toss money at T.O. or Ochocinco or even Burress? They'll likely be a damn sight better than anything else on that team and it's not like Rex Ryan doesn't love assholes on his team. Get prepared for the wheels on this bus to catch on fire before they fall the fuck right off. I thought they were already on fire.
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